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Treasure Island: Red/Blue/Green Crystals do not count towards Campaign Goals

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  • Treasure Island: Red/Blue/Green Crystals do not count towards Campaign Goals

    If you have Campaign Goals of "Earn Red Crystals!", "Earn Blue Crystals!" or "Earn Green Crystals!", crystals earned from Treasure Island spins are not counted towards your totals. I verified this on both FB and Web3-- I had just started Hard campaigns on each Thursday night, so my tallies were at 0/20.

  • #2
    That is correct, they've never counted towards campaign goals before.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mursilis View Post
      That is correct, they've never counted towards campaign goals before.
      Which is obviously a bug, and inconsistent with how Arena drops count as expected for these tallies.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kreth View Post
        Which is obviously a bug, and inconsistent with how Arena drops count as expected for these tallies.
        Other than the latest Arena, loot gained from event sources and free spins never counted towards campaigns in the past. So I cannot say if that is on purpose or a bug, but it's been pretty consistent so far.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mursilis View Post
          Other than the latest Arena, loot gained from event sources and free spins never counted towards campaigns in the past. So I cannot say if that is on purpose or a bug, but it's been pretty consistent so far.
          Yes, you can. The Campaign instructions state: "Earn Red Crystals!" as the goal. It does not add a caveat for specific methods. It doesn't say "Earn Red Crystals between 2pm and 4pm EST." It doesn't say "Earn Red Crystals by hitting Vorak!" It just says "Earn Red Crystals!"

          Any method of earning crystals fulfills that goal. This is why they fixed the bug for the recent Arena.

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          • #6
            It's been this way since campaigns were introduced. Since neither you nor I have access to the source code, nor have sat in on developer meetings on the subject we really cannot speak to the intention of Gaea. It's why I cannot say if this was intentional or a bug for certain. Same as everyone thought that the vampire ability to resurrect a gate in GB was a bug, but turns out that was intentional and working as intended.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mursilis View Post
              It's been this way since campaigns were introduced. Since neither you nor I have access to the source code, nor have sat in on developer meetings on the subject we really cannot speak to the intention of Gaea. It's why I cannot say if this was intentional or a bug for certain. Same as everyone thought that the vampire ability to resurrect a gate in GB was a bug, but turns out that was intentional and working as intended.
              Why even post, then? If you're advocating the stance that something isn't a bug even when it contradicts the in-game description, then what purpose does your involvement serve?

              Just let the devs answer, then. You've just explained that your opinion doesn't have any bearing.

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              • #8
                I am attempting to explain to you that this very well may not be a bug. People have been complaining about this since the events started over a year ago, and nothing has changed so it may very well be intended. But by all means, you can wait for an official Gaea response. As of yet, I haven't seen anyone get one on this particular matter. But who knows, maybe you'll be the first.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kreth View Post
                  Yes, you can. The Campaign instructions state: "Earn Red Crystals!" as the goal. It does not add a caveat for specific methods. It doesn't say "Earn Red Crystals between 2pm and 4pm EST." It doesn't say "Earn Red Crystals by hitting Vorak!" It just says "Earn Red Crystals!"

                  Any method of earning crystals fulfills that goal. This is why they fixed the bug for the recent Arena.
                  I also would like to add that crystals EARNED from daily leader board also do not count toward campaign. I think it should be counted toward campaign b/c it is a legitimate mean of earning those crystals via in-game play.

                  If the game devs do not fix these discrepancies, then they MUST revise in-game description for chaos campaign tasks, to be more specific with what part of the game can one earn crystals and be counted toward campaign.
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                  • #10
                    Is it possible that Gaea is making a difference between won crystals and earned crystals?

                    The difference between gems given as rewards for opening chests or winning something like the monster leaderboard and having a combat action resulting in a crystal drop?

                    That is the only reason I can think of that perhaps the observed behavior may be intended.

                    Btw, wasn't it Kabam who fixed Arena to have dropped crystals count? Gaea seemed to have done very little with the Arena code when they ran the event.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lord Reaper View Post
                      Is it possible that Gaea is making a difference between won crystals and earned crystals?
                      Nope. It's just that different mechanisms use different functions to reward items. Different functions to get same thing done lead to different thing actually getting done.

                      Of course I can't know the above, but I've worked with software both old and new, pristine and legacy, so I can actually know it without seeing the code myself
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Elandal View Post
                        Nope. It's just that different mechanisms use different functions to reward items. Different functions to get same thing done lead to different thing actually getting done.

                        Of course I can't know the above, but I've worked with software both old and new, pristine and legacy, so I can actually know it without seeing the code myself
                        I was just wondering because it seems that every single event that Gaea added where crystals are awarded doesn't count them.

                        For what it's worth I wholeheartedly agree that they -should- count, just wondering if there is an actual reason why they do other than "oops, did we do that?".

                        I also would sincerely hope that they make use of the established code libraries to hand such collects when possible and don't write new code just because it's easier for them.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lord Reaper View Post
                          I was just wondering because it seems that every single event that Gaea added where crystals are awarded doesn't count them.
                          They counted during Arena. Made it significantly easier to hit the Hard (x20) colored crystal goals.

                          Again, the in-game text makes no distinction regarding where the crystals came from. Any contradiction between written/designed functionality and actual functionality is a bug, either with the instructions or the function. That's more or less the definition of a bug.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kreth View Post
                            They counted during Arena. Made it significantly easier to hit the Hard (x20) colored crystal goals.

                            Again, the in-game text makes no distinction regarding where the crystals came from. Any contradiction between written/designed functionality and actual functionality is a bug, either with the instructions or the function. That's more or less the definition of a bug.
                            They did, yes. But as I stated earlier, wasn't that changed during the Arena from 2016? The last one that Kabam ran? I seem to recall people complaining about it then and it being changed then.

                            It was pretty obvious that Gaea changed -very- little (if anything at all) about the Arena code. I'm more inclined to believe that the crystals counted by accident rather than on purpose.

                            As for this being a bug... I'm not going to argue that one way or the other as we have no clear description of what earning a crystal actually entails. Which should be fine since I already agreed that they should count.
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                            • #15
                              As of this Treasure Island, this bug has not been fixed.

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