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  • Level Requirement for Lotus.

    Just curious why there isn't one? I don't know about others, but when I see a lvl 30 tag a Lotus that I'm trying to kill, it really pisses me off. Sure not every attacker is going to be 100+ but obviously there should be some restriction on who can enter. Especially since there already is a restriction with the 15 slots.

    As an example. For those of you that play World of Warcraft. There is a level restriction on raids for a reason. No one likes a leech that just wants to soak up all the loot.

    I can understand some people may not have seen Lotus yet and are just curious. I just hate wasting stam, especially when you lose and she is less than 10% health. That slot could have been filled by someone that could have atleast done double the dmg I'm sure.

    Personally, if I summon my own I will say something about low lvls and taggers and if they do it anyway I will remove them from my army. Maybe a little harsh, but oh well.

    Now the only reason a level restriction would be bad is if you run with a lot of premade groups and you want to get your low level accounts loot.

    Taggers are also a problem but that's a totally separate issue.

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    Don't do call to arms and the level 30 won't tag your Lotus. Quite simple, really.
    Also, there are level 90+ that hardly leave any damage and just tag a few times to get some rewards, while there are level 30s out there who will be committed to it till the end and do lots of damage.

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    • #3
      Dont CTA? So what your saying is its impossible to pug Lotus? I don't keep tabs on 15 other people and I don't follow groups that closely to make sure that slots get filled.

      Seems rather unreasonable to suggest that. Seeing how she is almost impossible to kill unless everyone puts out at least 800k worth of dmg. All I'm saying is why should I have to make up for that dmg so some lvl 30 can get the loot?

      I do not see how any low level can put out the required damage with such low stats. I'm not going to waste my time doing the math, but do you think a level 30 can do 800k damage?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cruel.Angel View Post
        Dont CTA? So what your saying is its impossible to pug Lotus? I don't keep tabs on 15 other people and I don't follow groups that closely to make sure that slots get filled.

        Seems rather unreasonable to suggest that. Seeing how she is almost impossible to kill unless everyone puts out at least 800k with of dmg. All I'm saying is why should I have to make up for that dmg so some lvl 30 can get the loot?

        I do not see how any low level can put out the required damage with such low stats. I'm not going to waste my time doing the math, but do you think a level 30 can do 800k damage?
        You surely know which ones of your army members do a lot of damage to monsters. Just give them the link to your keep and the information that you have a lotus.
        If you do a CTA, anyone can jump on it. If you want to do a CTA because you're too lazy to keep taps on who's good in your army, then that's your problem.
        Yes, a level 30 CAN do 800k damage. Why ever not? There are level 30 players out there who have good stats. Just as there are some level 321 Barons out there who have 50 att/50 def and lots of stamina but only do a little bit of damage per hit, a level 30 can just as well have 50/50 stats and do the same amount of damage. Level does not influence how well you can do.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cruel.Angel View Post
          I do not see how any low level can put out the required damage with such low stats. I'm not going to waste my time doing the math, but do you think a level 30 can do 800k damage?
          My cousin at lower levels did, overall, just because she had high stamina and would pound them until the end. Averaging millions against Cronus, etc just because of that fact.

          If you run across what you deem as "leeches", best thing to suggest is remove them from your friends list. Or give them time, eventually they will be a higher level just like you, and able to do the higher damage per attack.

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          • #6
            No, I'm sorry I don't keep track of 500+ people in my army.

            On a long enough time line sure, a lvl 30 can do a TON of dmg like you suggest. I'm sorry, even if built properly I don't believe they can do enough damage. Unless the account is 6 months old and they do blessings everyday..... ect ect.

            Never mind actually lol. completely unreasonable. Why is there a suggestion forum lol?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by iroyalty View Post
              Averaging millions against Cronus, etc just because of that fact.
              It's very different when fighting Cronus. Which is why this thread is about Lotus. Lotus also has a lot more defense. My average hit on her is around 12k while my average on Cronus is around 20k. I wont even get into critical hits.

              Pretty much anyone can get into Cronus and do a ton of dmg... again with the time line. Most "PUG" Cronus groups end up lasting atleast 60 hours from what I've seen. So any low level can actually do decent damage with that much time.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cruel.Angel View Post
                No, I'm sorry I don't keep track of 500+ people in my army.

                On a long enough time line sure, a lvl 30 can do a TON of dmg like you suggest. I'm sorry, even if built properly I don't believe they can do enough damage. Unless the account is 6 months old and they do blessings everyday..... ect ect.

                Never mind actually lol. completely unreasonable. Why is there a suggestion forum lol?
                The suggestion forum is there so you can suggest.
                But this particular suggestion has been done - well, quite often. There is a search function, too... I 'suggest' you use that and read some of the old topics.
                The thing is though - if you suggest something, you have to anticipate that someone will tell you how to solve your problem (like I did - also, there's no need to keep track of 500 people... just make a list of the select few on your last lotus that did a lot of damage... you do that a few times and you'll have your fighters! Really quite simple and quick).

                You don't need to believe that level 30 players can be good. That's up to you. But I know that they can be. A lot better than 90+ players. You should find a random Cronus with a lot of hitters and compare the 90+ section to the 30-60 section. You will most likely find that in average the 30-60 people will be a lot more committed to helping and do more damage.
                Or you just keep your opinion. It's up to you.

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                • #9
                  ok lol.

                  10 characters.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Caitir Eavan View Post
                    You don't need to believe that level 30 players can be good. That's up to you. But I know that they can be. A lot better than 90+ players. You should find a random Cronus with a lot of hitters and compare the 90+ section to the 30-60 section. You will most likely find that in average the 30-60 people will be a lot more committed to helping and do more damage.
                    Or you just keep your opinion. It's up to you.
                    I agree, a lot of the 90+ have enough stamina to spread out on several monsters so they may not be as committed as the lower levels who doesn't have enough stamina to spare, so they have to concentrate on 1 or 2 to deal enough damage for better loots.
                    G.E.N.E.S.I.S.{HEℜT-ℜ}{FURY} landed a CRITICAL HIT on Cronus, The World Hydra hitting them for an UNGODLY amount of Damage[64,449,570]!

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                    • #11
                      Just a thought

                      I know who, in my army, is consistant i.e. gifting. I use the e-mail feature to mass e-mail consistant army members when I summon and do not post a C2A.

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                      • #12
                        I think I might just agree with OP.

                        God knows what a level 22 and 9 are on a lotus for.
                        When you're bothered, smile, just smile.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KuroiNeko View Post
                          I think I might just agree with OP.

                          God knows what a level 22 and 9 are on a lotus for.
                          You posted a call to arms and they thought they'd help.
                          How on earth are low level players supposed to know that they're not strong enough?
                          Like I said before - if you want to choose who can jump on your monster, then invite people by message. As soon as it's open, ANYONE can jump on.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Caitir Eavan View Post
                            You posted a call to arms and they thought they'd help.
                            How on earth are low level players supposed to know that they're not strong enough?
                            Like I said before - if you want to choose who can jump on your monster, then invite people by message. As soon as it's open, ANYONE can jump on.
                            Not my lotus btw. CTA is for unorganised desperate people, but just for their benefit and the benefit of the people who decide to help and for the benefit of the not-knowing noobs themselves so that they dont waste their precious stamina on something they wont get rewarded for, level implementation might be helpful. (great, i hate run-ons.)

                            Think about the people who dish out 200k damage to help at one go and realise the rest of the people are taggers.
                            When you're bothered, smile, just smile.

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                            • #15
                              IMO, new requirements of any kind are going to backfire.

                              Plenty of low level builds can lay down massive damage.

                              If you absolutely can't stand having low level people in your boss fights, don't have low level people in your army.



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