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Corona Virus Semi-Official discussion thread

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  • This feels pretty bad. I kept wondering about Reagan and how hiv was not controlled.
    But even Reagan didnt screw up that badly.
    On the other hand, I agree.
    If Trump lets it run rampant and it kills say 100m americans, he gets blamed for it.
    If Trump initiates lock down, social distancing and mask wearing, hand washing.
    And if the death tally is not high, he gets blamed for taking away their freedom.


    • Inside the Fall of the CDC

      The next day, a furious call came from the office of the vice president: The White House suggestions were not optional. The CDC’s failure to use them was insubordinate, according to emails at the time.

      Fifteen minutes later, one of Butler’s deputies had the agency’s text replaced with the White House version, the emails show.
      Right that was. Who do these career infectious disease people at the cdc think they are anyway. Obviously the white house is the better source of true facts.
      ...Dwarven Miner - I found a free chest roll for ye, but I was ambushed by a Dev in the mine.
      Lil rascal made away with it...


      • Originally posted by Rev Sim View Post
        The problem with covid is that if we let it kill 1/3 of the population, people will yell we should have controlled it. If we control it, people yell that 1/3 of the people did not die and we stomped on their lives for a fake cause.

        Doomed if you do and doomed if you don't.
        Isn't that literally the situation we are already in?

        I see so many people effectively complain that more people haven't died. They are essentially complaining that the weather man predicted rain and they didn't get rained on.

        Of course it's being spun in a way that Trump saved 1.7 million people because Fauci predicted that there would be 2 million dead. Conveniently leaving out the fact that Fauci stated that that number would die if we did -nothing- which is not what we ended up doing. Of course the action that was taken was all taken by those Hitler like governors who ruined everybody's economies with their authoritarian demands. Who were forced to do that after Trump's admin refused to do what was needed and literally told the states they had to fend for themselves and sent them fighting among themselves.

        Honestly... I feel that either too much is happening to keep track of every detail or people are just too damned brainwashed on both sides to remember further back than last week and instead just parrot talking points for things they should remember but don't and can't be bothered to look up or fact check. (It may just be a combination of both)
        "Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life!" - Rev Sim

        "Gratuitous acts of senseless violence are -my- forte!" - Max


        • enlighten me, what happens when more people die? wouldnt dow jones move up more?


          • Since there is a fixed amount of money... Everyone who survives gets richer, since the dead get nothing!

            So, death is good. Think about it.

            If you were the only person left alive, everything created and all the monies would belong to youz. You would have more than Elon Musk and Bill Gates Combined.

            ...Dwarven Miner - I found a free chest roll for ye, but I was ambushed by a Dev in the mine.
            Lil rascal made away with it...


            • is it legit to try to kidnap a governor for trying to get everyone to wear masks?
              seems pretty legit in michigan's rally


              • The President claimed on a campaign call that people are tired of hearing about coronavirus, which has killed more than 215,000 Americans, and criticized Dr. Anthony Fauci as a "disaster" who has been around for "500 years."
                Darn, I knew he was old but I didn't know he was that old!
                ...Dwarven Miner - I found a free chest roll for ye, but I was ambushed by a Dev in the mine.
                Lil rascal made away with it...


                • Originally posted by Rev Sim View Post
                  Darn, I knew he was old but I didn't know he was that old!
                  ancient is a better word


                  • Happy 501 Dr Fauci!

                    We're going throw you a really big party!

                    ...Dwarven Miner - I found a free chest roll for ye, but I was ambushed by a Dev in the mine.
                    Lil rascal made away with it...


                    • Originally posted by Rev Sim View Post
                      Darn, I knew he was old but I didn't know he was that old!
                      No wonder the man is so wise.
                      "Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life!" - Rev Sim

                      "Gratuitous acts of senseless violence are -my- forte!" - Max


                      • guess mainstream view is not to contain the virus but to let it flourish
                        Trump called Jacinda Ardern’s use of public-health measures to mitigate the pandemic’s impact “a sleazy political move like you wouldn’t believe.”


                        • ‘It Has Hit Us With a Vengeance’: Virus Surges Again Across the United States

                          Unlike earlier outbreaks concentrated in the Northeast and South, the virus is simmering at a worrisome level in most regions.
                          Overwhelmed by cases, North Dakota tells residents with COVID-19 to do their own contact tracing

                          The state of North Dakota just got overwhelmed. The contact tracers can not keep up and they have brought in the National Guard just to help call people to say "HI, you tested POSITIVE.

                          And the fun part is they then ask if you can call those you have been near and for you to ask them to self quarantine. Ouch. Awkward.

                          ...Dwarven Miner - I found a free chest roll for ye, but I was ambushed by a Dev in the mine.
                          Lil rascal made away with it...


                          • isnt north dakota famous for those pipelines, red indians, natives and hold ups?


                            • I personally don't live in America but from what I hear it definitely seems rather chaotic and compared to most of the other 'first world' nations, it sounds like they're pretty much losing control of the situation altogether. To everyone here who's from the US, how's the situation really like though? Is it as bad as the media outlets are making things out to be? I hope you guys are all keeping safe!
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                              • So, what is America like currently?

                                Unbridled business greed. Rampant age, race, and class discrimination, Politicians from both sides that for the past several decades have delivered empty promises, bowed to wall street and the mega banks, walked over the workers, set policies that promoted the off shoring of jobs...

                                This continued until the walked upon vote in a total political outsider in a desperate "this has got to end" move.

                                Trump promised to bring back jobs. Well, that did not work out as planned, although many believers stubbornly state that we are less screwed than if things had went forward as normal. IMO, We are just screwed differently, but things have not improved for the common people. Still being screwed.

                                Things had got so bad that a major politician started talking about parts of our society as "deplorable." To repeat, we have rampant age, race and class discrimination.

                                We can't even decide if healthcare is a human right or if it is a societal privilege, only deserved for the ones that can afford it. One day, we will have a $200 vaccine that the working poor will not be able to afford.

                                Everyone here are saying support small business and buy American products. Then they rush to the large corporate store to buy foreign goods since they are better priced. But, it is ten percent cheaper!

                                If you want to know the current political scene, read this.

                                Both political sides feel / claim that the vote is being stolen from them.

                                It is getting to be a real mess.
                                ...Dwarven Miner - I found a free chest roll for ye, but I was ambushed by a Dev in the mine.
                                Lil rascal made away with it...