Steel Legion Promo Pack

[Tripping]

So what happened to the Chaos promo then?

Is that still going to be available for those who didn't see it before?

If it doesn't become available, that will be unfair for the many people who couldn't buy it previously.

Btw, devs, if you are going to rehash promos, please don't include the 20 SP in there. It was bad enough that we got 5 SP in the promos.

No! 20SP are very cool in promos, please devs continue to release Promos with 20SP in them

[Mursilis]

No! 20SP are very cool in promos, please devs continue to release Promos with 20SP in them

I agree with LR, less SPs per promo the better.

[Shadow Reaper]

No! 20SP are very cool in promos, please devs continue to release Promos with 20SP in them

Skill Points should generally -never- be sold to the general public.

I can see them being sold to newer accounts to help them catch up but that is it.

Limited time Skill Points, whether in the form of actual Skill Points or in the form of IA points are -literally- an unfair disadvantage to every single player who did not have a chance to obtain them. Furthermore, it essentially punishes every single player who chose -not- to buy into those points.

I'm all for limited time stuff, just not like that.

[Doge]

I wish the promos gave zero sps

[DCRich]

boutght through fb and got it

[Sir Ryan]

Yes it works fine, the 2 generals aren't anything special however and there are no free chest rolls.

[Chaos]

Not seeing it. Seems new devs hates my money.

Does this still apply, Revolver?

I can see it on FB, but if the new promo isn't being seen by everyone, it should probably be pointed out to Superd that the display bug's still not resolved. May not seem high priority, but have to remember that;
A: It's an issue of fairness for potential spenders.
and
B: Promos = Bonus incentive to buy FP = Higher game income = Game lives longer/Dev paychecks less likely to bounce.lol

Skill Points should generally -never- be sold to the general public.

I can see them being sold to newer accounts to help them catch up but that is it.

Limited time Skill Points, whether in the form of actual Skill Points or in the form of IA points are -literally- an unfair disadvantage to every single player who did not have a chance to obtain them. Furthermore, it essentially punishes every single player who chose -not- to buy into those points.

I'm all for limited time stuff, just not like that.

As a F2P player turned light spender, I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a part of me which appreciates the extra SP gained from past promos, as it made up for some of the demi prayers I missed while without a computer. The same could be said for the limited event IA points.

However, I also must agree that the points have always created an imbalance between spenders and F2P players of the same timeframe. Of course, that timeframe is the only way I know to fairly judge it, thus making it hard to determine what's fair and what isn't when it comes to base stats.

I mean, as I see it, limiting SP promos to new players may help them catch up to a point, but they're never going to reach a free player who prays daily over the past 6+years, just as those free 6+year players will never reach someone who prayed the same amount, and has purchased every promo that came out in that time. So, how do you limit that kind of thing, but stay fair to the majority of players who fall between "new" and "classic mega-uber" stats also trying to catch up, without making those of the highest stats feel cheated by giving them some kind of nerf or promo restriction? It's tricky, because the same promos that increase the gap between heavy spenders/old players and new/free players, is also what shortens the gap for light/medium spenders over the years.

[DESTYNO]

I do not think it's a good idea to place, 20 fp in a promotion package

[Retribution (Eagles)]

Skill Points should generally -never- be sold to the general public.

I can see them being sold to newer accounts to help them catch up but that is it.

Limited time Skill Points, whether in the form of actual Skill Points or in the form of IA points are -literally- an unfair disadvantage to every single player who did not have a chance to obtain them. Furthermore, it essentially punishes every single player who chose -not- to buy into those points.

I'm all for limited time stuff, just not like that.

You mean cause your not spending?? Don't downplay the value of paying for the game and for the ability for f2p players to play... there is never going to be equality between f2pand p2p....

[TvR]

I do not think it's a good idea to place, 20 fp in a promotion package

20 FP ? Did you mean SP ?

This was an old rehashed Promo from the very early days of Promo's. Tass, former dev, announced that the Promo's would be scaled down and then future Promo's only came with 10 SP and then it's been 5 SP for a while.

It is not so much now about Skill Points, Resistance and Pierce of all types is the dominant factor, as a single epic gem or even legendary gem can give a player 6K SP boosts equivalent, in one foul swoop.

[Retribution (Eagles)]

20 FP ? Did you mean SP ?

This was an old rehashed Promo from the very early days of Promo's. Tass, former dev, announced that the Promo's would be scaled down and then future Promo's only came with 10 SP and then it's been 5 SP for a while.

It is not so much now about Skill Points, Resistance and Pierce of all types is the dominant factor, as a single epic gem or even legendary gem can give a player 6K SP boosts equivalent, in one foul swoop.

In the scheme of things 20 sp right now means nothing.. it's all about pierce and resist... and trying to be divine too...

[Retribution (Eagles)]

I do not think it's a good idea to place, 20 fp in a promotion package

20 sp.. it's actually 60 fp... you think it makes people want it? Hm.. that would be why then...

[Batw]

No free chest rolls this time.

It's 60 bonus FP and iOS buyers get 12 more bonus FP (e.g. the 10% bonus) for a total of 72 bonus FP's.

Now, if I farmed 8 more FP's, it's enough for a three spin chest spin (btw, the 60 bonus FP's is already enough for 3 spins for the Alpha chest).

[Shadow Reaper]

I mean, as I see it, limiting SP promos to new players may help them catch up to a point, but they're never going to reach a free player who prays daily over the past 6+years, just as those free 6+year players will never reach someone who prayed the same amount, and has purchased every promo that came out in that time. So, how do you limit that kind of thing, but stay fair to the majority of players who fall between "new" and "classic mega-uber" stats also trying to catch up, without making those of the highest stats feel cheated by giving them some kind of nerf or promo restriction? It's tricky, because the same promos that increase the gap between heavy spenders/old players and new/free players, is also what shortens the gap for light/medium spenders over the years.

Start by not giving out limited time items in the promos that cause unfair advantage. That includes scratching SP, free chest rolls, and other such items that can -not- be obtained in any other way but through those promos.

Next, end demi blessing SP. That system is responsible for the biggest gap between players. Just cap it at however many points were possible to earn between the day of the first demi blessing and the day when they stop. That would allow everyone a set X amount of SP from them. To allow players to catch up quicker the number of points gained from them daily could be multiplied by the number of years demis gave SP so that catching up from them becomes easier.

Furthermore... new accounts have the ability to buy SP. Scratch that and add some place where the total amount of past promo SP can somehow be earned in game. This would be available to all, not just new accounts. That would give people the ability to actually obtain all of the SP that they didn't get through the promos. Mind you, there is nothing wrong with requiring some effort to obtain them there.

Buying FP has always been a gateway to -speed boosts-. The promos also made buying FP about adding advantages that can't be overcome through regular game play. That needs to end.

You mean cause your not spending?? Don't downplay the value of paying for the game and for the ability for f2p players to play... there is never going to be equality between f2pand p2p....

Nice try. I've been spending for several years, before the promos even came out. Since they did come out I bought each pack with the highest FP pack available for me at the time.

How sad is it that you can't actually care about balance for all in the game without being accused of one thing or another. >_>

Seriously... if you had paid attention to my postings then you would know that I -never- argue for things that just give -me- an advantage in this game.

[Retribution (Eagles)]

The promo packs -equally- help everyone purchasing them