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  • wiki is wrong!

    The wiki numbers on the experience points needed to level up the four basic generals do not match the actual numbers. They are in fact incredibly easy to level. Why is this important? Any general well leveled becomes a powerhouse. Players have to use these generals in quests anyway so put a crystal on them and power them up or put lots of crystals on one, use one potion and gain ten levels in one shot.(Yes it is that cheap to level)

  • #2
    With the new ability to use any general for any quest, you don't have to use those generals for questing anymore, but can use quests to level the general of your choice (after a certain level I assume).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by chopps75 View Post
      With the new ability to use any general for any quest, you don't have to use those generals for questing anymore
      basically what is written above^, and sorry to tell you but I prefer to lvl generals with useful ability than to lvl quest generals with ability that is not useful
      Originally posted by AdventurerGR
      BATW is always like that and I wonder why people still take his posts seriously... just put him on the Ignore List, so you can save yourself the headache and keep the threads he derails to a minimum.

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      • #4
        I find winning battles with higher stats to be very useful.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by clintw View Post
          Players have to use these generals in quests anyway
          The need to actually use specific generals for quests was removed from the game months ago.

          Edit: see what happens when I get sidetracked? I get ninjad.
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          • #6
            You don't haz to use those generals in quests, just saying.
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            • #7
              Pros and cons of leveling generals you don't use on a regular basis;

              Pros- War and Invasion battles will be easier to win. No good in land conquests or guild battles, but can be useful in conquest duels for essence trade bonuses/personal guild coins, or climbing the old battle rankings for their IA rewards.

              Cons- Limited resources and time, which could both be spent leveling your "main" generals. Something that becomes harder as they level up.

              My personal opinion; I'd take them all to level 4, (Dragan/Strider/Sophia/Penelope to 6 using the medals from Tavern quests, which also gives some of their equipment based on your choices). Then figure out what you'll need for your main generals vs your resource intake. If you know you'll have extra hero crystals beyond what you need, and are in between leveling your mains, (full xp and waiting to get more blue/red/green evolution crystals), no harm in boosting a "lesser" general to kill time.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by clintw View Post
                The wiki numbers on the experience points needed to level up the four basic generals do not match the actual numbers. They are in fact incredibly easy to level. Why is this important? Any general well leveled becomes a powerhouse. Players have to use these generals in quests anyway so put a crystal on them and power them up or put lots of crystals on one, use one potion and gain ten levels in one shot.(Yes it is that cheap to level)
                They seem to be correct to me. They are cumulative values though - total experience amount needed to reach a level, rather than amount needed between two levels. Were you expecting one but seeing the other?

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                • #9
                  Yes, that's it. Still very to level compared to most generals.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chaos View Post
                    Pros and cons of leveling generals you don't use on a regular basis;

                    Pros- War and Invasion battles will be easier to win. No good in land conquests or guild battles, but can be useful in conquest duels for essence trade bonuses/personal guild coins, or climbing the old battle rankings for their IA rewards.

                    Cons- Limited resources and time, which could both be spent leveling your "main" generals. Something that becomes harder as they level up.

                    My personal opinion; I'd take them all to level 4, (Dragan/Strider/Sophia/Penelope to 6 using the medals from Tavern quests, which also gives some of their equipment based on your choices). Then figure out what you'll need for your main generals vs your resource intake. If you know you'll have extra hero crystals beyond what you need, and are in between leveling your mains, (full xp and waiting to get more blue/red/green evolution crystals), no harm in boosting a "lesser" general to kill time.
                    I do take all of my generals to level 4 and then stop unless I am going to use that general on a regular basis, HOWEVER, I think invasion only uses a general's level 1 stats unless that has changed recently.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GrnXnham View Post
                      I do take all of my generals to level 4 and then stop unless I am going to use that general on a regular basis, HOWEVER, I think invasion only uses a general's level 1 stats unless that has changed recently.
                      You could be right. Honestly, I don't know for sure what effects invasion these days. There's been a lot of questioning over it, with several different theories. I can say I have seemed to get much better results after leveling mine to 4, than I did before they were leveled.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by clintw View Post
                        Yes, that's it. Still very to level compared to most generals.
                        You do realise that at meaningful levels they'll get expensive in coloured crystals, and for low-LSI builds in particular, all general leveling resources should be precious and wisely used... By all means go ahead though, badly optimised opponent = dead opponent.

                        Also, the title of this thread aggravates me, especially as it's you that was wrong in the end.

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                        • #13
                          Why would you want to waste resources leveling a worthless general? If you're a F2P player then you have extremely limited resources and are much better off focusing on 1 useful general to level up for those better stats, etc. If you're a spender of any level then you most likely have multiple useful generals to devote resources to leveling up.

                          I can say without a doubt that I have several generals that were relatively easy to level who I did level up fairly significantly (in one case into the 50's and in the other cases into the 30's or 40's) for their stats that I wish now I hadn't bothered with because i could really really use those crystals and powders now to level my main generals. The stat boost I got from those generals was pretty much meaningless and with the changes to alliances none of them even make it into an alliance as a 3rd general for the stat boost.

                          And in any case, as has been pointed out, you're wrong from the beginning on the exp cost anyway and don't take into account the amount of crystals required to level any general to the point where their stats become meaningful.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by clintw View Post
                            I find winning battles with higher stats to be very useful.
                            General stats are largely meaningless when it comes to winning in PvP, unless you are talking getting above level 50. In that case Mari is correct that the issue is the amount of colored crystals it takes. Given that is a very constrained resource IMO it places these generals back in the worthless category.
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