Damn you castle age!

[KarmicBeing]

It's not scheduled maintenance. As I said in my previous post, that Celesta picture is just the default image for when the game is down for any reason.

They could not let people know ahead of time that the game would crash because they didn't know it themselves. I can understand why they don't immediately post a message: they are hoping it is something they can quickly fix instead of spending that time typing up answers. Although perhaps they should set a time by which they notify us they are working on it.

Aah, so I was under the wrong impression here
My bad

[echo expugno]

I have seen them once, say they have a scheduled maintenance, on the CA app, they did it after a problem they were experiencing I think, before the temporarily shut the app down. But as Death of Rats says, it is also the default, when it crashes. So, when they plan for it, they actually do tell us in advance, if they don't tell us, then it isn't planned.

[kohh0015]

Amen, Elandal.
It's a shame that this has to be said, so often. It's obviously true, so how can so many ppl still be oblivious to it? Math is elusive?

Talking about maths, I would like to support your statement using maths.

Assuming the attacker put everything to attack and the defender put everything to defense (to put everything to their perfect situation) and the formula:
Attack Power = attack + 0.7 x defense
Defence Power = defense + 0.7 x attack

Let's say there are 2 jackrabbits (quoted by Korath) that attack each other when they have not reach the gauntlet:
Tom lvl 200 attack 1200 def 1 (BSI ~ 6) [attack power = 1200.7]
Dick lvl 200 attack 1 def 600 (BSI ~ 3) [defense power = 600.7]
So if Tom attacks Dick, Tom wins since his attack power is more than Dick's defense power. So in this case BSI matters, which proves Echo's point.

The same as a lvl 200 with a 6 bsi will beat a lvl 200 with a lower bsi. Yes effective attack, and effective defense are the actual stats that make the difference. BSI is only a measurement, of your strength per your lvl. A higher bsi, per your lvl means your effective attack and defense are higher. So BSI still, and always matters

BUT..... when you reached lvl 300 (which you haven't echo, you are lvl 180 right now) ,welcome to the gauntlet... You'll meet a huge range of levels...
So let's say there is a cheetah (again quoted by Korath) named Lily who is lvl 4000, attack 6000 defense 6000, so her BSI is 3 and her attack power is 6000 + 0.7 x 6000 = 10,200.
And then another jackrabbit named Harry, lvl 300, who just stepped into the gauntlet, BSI pretty high (~8) attack 1 defence 2400. So his defensive power is about 2400.7

So in the gauntlet Lily can see Harry in the battle page and can attack him and win since her attack power is more than Harry's defensive power, even though her BSI is much lower than Harry's and even if Harry's a wall built. And there is no rule in gauntlet that you have to find an equal level to fight.

a lvl 4000 player with a 6 bsi, will beat a lvl 4000 player with a lower bsi in duels and guild battles.

by the way, i have not seen a lvl 4000 with BSI 6, if you do, let me know straightaway! Because I want to salute him/her. Having a high BSI at that level means the stamina and energy are sacrificed, leveling speed is slowed down. It takes a really long time and huge amount of effort to get that far. He/She should get a medal for that effort.

[echo expugno]

Talking about maths, I would like to support your statement using maths.

Assuming the attacker put everything to attack and the defender put everything to defense (to put everything to their perfect situation) and the formula:
Attack Power = attack + 0.7 x defense
Defence Power = defense + 0.7 x attack

Let's say there are 2 jackrabbits (quoted by Korath) that attack each other when they have not reach the gauntlet:
Tom lvl 200 attack 1200 def 1 (BSI ~ 6) [attack power = 1200.7]
Dick lvl 200 attack 1 def 600 (BSI ~ 3) [defense power = 600.7]
So if Tom attacks Dick, Tom wins since his attack power is more than Dick's defense power. So in this case BSI matters, which proves Echo's point.



BUT..... when you reached lvl 300 (which you haven't echo, you are lvl 180 right now) ,welcome to the gauntlet... You'll meet a huge range of levels...
So let's say there is a cheetah (again quoted by Korath) named Lily who is lvl 4000, attack 6000 defense 6000, so her BSI is 3 and her attack power is 6000 + 0.7 x 6000 = 10,200.
And then another jackrabbit named Harry, lvl 300, who just stepped into the gauntlet, BSI pretty high (~8) attack 1 defence 2400. So his defensive power is about 2400.7

So in the gauntlet Lily can see Harry in the battle page and can attack him and win since her attack power is more than Harry's defensive power, even though her BSI is much lower than Harry's and even if Harry's a wall built. And there is no rule in gauntlet that you have to find an equal level to fight.



by the way, i have not seen a lvl 4000 with BSI 6, if you do, let me know straightaway! Because I want to salute him/her. Having a high BSI at that level means the stamina and energy are sacrificed, leveling speed is slowed down. It takes a really long time and huge amount of effort to get that far. He/She should get a medal for that effort.

there will always be someone of higher lvl then another. so part of your argument is, well, just a poor argument. As you pointed out, I am lvl 180, 177 ish in the arena. I was more then able to hit many people without poly, and without confuse, far more then 2 times my lvl, often even 3 times my lvl. and bounce many of them also. I do the same in festival battles, and guild battles. so I think when I hit gauntlet, I will be very happy if I can break or bounce most players lvls 900 and below, maybe by then even lvl 1000 and below. So again, your argument has flaws with players like me. Cheetahs don't eat rocks and I want to be a rock.
I have not seen a lvl 4000 with a 6 bsi either, but if there was a lvl 4000 with a 6 bsi, they would crush everyone their lvl or lower with a lesser bsi. bsi always matters in the measurement of strength per lvl. But, it is only a measurement.

[kohh0015]

there will always be someone of higher lvl then another. so part of your argument is, well, just a poor argument. As you pointed out, I am lvl 180, 177 ish in the arena. I was more then able to hit many people without poly, and without confuse, far more then 2 times my lvl, often even 3 times my lvl. and bounce many of them also. I do the same in festival battles, and guild battles. so I think when I hit gauntlet, I will be very happy if I can break or bounce most players lvls 900 and below, maybe by then even lvl 1000 and below. So again, your argument has flaws with players like me. Cheetahs don't eat rocks and I want to be a rock.
I have not seen a lvl 4000 with a 6 bsi either, but if there was a lvl 4000 with a 6 bsi, they would crush everyone their lvl or lower with a lesser bsi. bsi always matters in the measurement of strength per lvl. But, it is only a measurement.

I understand how good it feels when we are able to attack someone 3 times our level. I too can beat someone 3 times my level in guild battles without poly. You have been earning lots of 240 points right?
I was happily killing people, earning 240 points until some lvl 1000+ cleric log in and finish me up, at the same time heals his gate. None of our current actives are able to beat, only then when our lvl 900 log in, we can get rid of him and finally win a close battle. So I was thinking... if only i can quickly level up, increase the rate of getting +5 skill points, quickly get all the skill points i need, to catch up with those high lvl guys out there, so I can help my teammates better.
Cheetahs may not eat rocks but they can step on rocks like us.

But then.... you may already be satisfied to be able to hit 3 times your level.

[echo expugno]

I understand how good it feels when we are able to attack someone 3 times our level. I too can beat someone 3 times my level in guild battles without poly. You have been earning lots of 240 points right?
I was happily killing people, earning 240 points until some lvl 1000+ cleric log in and finish me up, at the same time heals his gate. None of our current actives are able to beat, only then when our lvl 900 log in, we can get rid of him and finally win a close battle. So I was thinking... if only i can quickly level up, increase the rate of getting +5 skill points, quickly get all the skill points i need, to catch up with those high lvl guys out there, so I can help my teammates better.
Cheetahs may not eat rocks but they can step on rocks like us.

But then.... you may already be satisfied to be able to hit 3 times your level.

Cheetahs might be able to step on rocks, but a good sharp one will make them walk funny. .
The 5 fast sp's might be good from lvling up fast but don't help you beat anyone when you throw them at energy or stam so that you can keep lvling up faster for another 5 fast sp's that will go back to energy and stam again so you can lvl up fast, and it goes on and on.
Habits are difficult to break, for all of us. The power lvler wants to keep lvling fast so they allocate their sp's where they always have, to the stats that help them lvl fast. I have always allocated to attack/defense, always moving toward making myself stronger and stronger for my lvl. Now that I am at a 10 BSI, a or 1800 combined attack/defense at lvl 180, and am meeting my goals, I want to raise the bar of those goals, partly out of habit, because adding to something like energy or stam just seems so difficult a thing to me, as it is not what I'm use to, and partly because I am proud of my strength for my lvl. Will I ever beat Orlando, Marian or the other top lvls in the game? Probably not. But how cool would it be to be able to break their keeps from less than 1/4th their lvl?
When I started playing this game, last February and chose the path that I did, many people told me that had played this game for more than a year already that high BSI slow lvling was a mistake, I would never catch them, they would grow in strength faster then I could and so on. Now, not even a year later I have caught and broken many of their keeps, or I am getting closer. Some are humorously in panic.
I am not saying that I know very much, or that I am right. But I seem to be doing something effectively right. I am not saying you are wrong, but what if, what you know is faulted? What if you, are not right, in all instances?
There are people that have known me, since the beginning of this game that just can't understand, because the math says I shouldn't be able to catch them.

[kohh0015]

Cheetahs might be able to step on rocks, but a good sharp one will make them walk funny. .
The 5 fast sp's might be good from lvling up fast but don't help you beat anyone when you throw them at energy or stam so that you can keep lvling up faster for another 5 fast sp's that will go back to energy and stam again so you can lvl up fast, and it goes on and on.
Habits are difficult to break, for all of us. The power lvler wants to keep lvling fast so they allocate their sp's where they always have, to the stats that help them lvl fast. I have always allocated to attack/defense, always moving toward making myself stronger and stronger for my lvl. Now that I am at a 10 BSI, a or 1800 combined attack/defense at lvl 180, and am meeting my goals, I want to raise the bar of those goals, partly out of habit, because adding to something like energy or stam just seems so difficult a thing to me, as it is not what I'm use to, and partly because I am proud of my strength for my lvl. Will I ever beat Orlando, Marian or the other top lvls in the game? Probably not. But how cool would it be to be able to break their keeps from less than 1/4th their lvl?
When I started playing this game, last February and chose the path that I did, many people told me that had played this game for more than a year already that high BSI slow lvling was a mistake, I would never catch them, they would grow in strength faster then I could and so on. Now, not even a year later I have caught and broken many of their keeps, or I am getting closer. Some are humorously in panic.
I am not saying that I know very much, or that I am right. But I seem to be doing something effectively right. I am not saying you are wrong, but what if, what you know is faulted? What if you, are not right, in all instances?
There are people that have known me, since the beginning of this game that just can't understand, because the math says I shouldn't be able to catch them.

Oh so you have been playing since February. I only started playing about 6 months ago lol

Nah, like you, i'm not gonna use my 5 sp for energy or stam. I use them for attack and defense. I usually use the extra skill points from quests, monster medal, battle/war rank to increase my energy and stamina. I want to finish up unlocking the demi rewards too. My style of play is to maintain BSI 6 and the extras i got are to be transferred to energy & stam.

Those who keep adding every single point into energy and stamina non-stop will, of course, remain squishy.

Your style of play depends on what you are looking for in this game.

[zserg]

Did some math with the help of my spreadsheet...

Echo as far as your build goes, you've lost a lot of potential lvls due to missing out on stam/energy regen. (which is not surprising as they are so low).

You could easily have had 150/150 ene/stam right now(if you added to these at the beginning) and the same if not greater total A/D.

However you would have had a lower BSI.

[echo expugno]

Oh so you have been playing since February. I only started playing about 6 months ago lol

Nah, like you, i'm not gonna use my 5 sp for energy or stam. I use them for attack and defense. I usually use the extra skill points from quests, monster medal, battle/war rank to increase my energy and stamina. I want to finish up unlocking the demi rewards too. My style of play is to maintain BSI 6 and the extras i got are to be transferred to energy & stam.

Those who keep adding every single point into energy and stamina non-stop will, of course, remain squishy.

Your style of play depends on what you are looking for in this game.

the only part of the game I like, is pvp. Monsters are boring, I hate them. But sometimes when you hit someone just right, or you bounce someone you shouldn't be able to, they squeak, with the funniest hate mail. But more often you get to bounce or break friends keeps.

[echo expugno]

Did some math with the help of my spreadsheet...

Echo as far as your build goes, you've lost a lot of potential lvls due to missing out on stam/energy regen. (which is not surprising as they are so low).

You could easily have had 150/150 ene/stam right now(if you added to these at the beginning) and the same if not greater total A/D.

However you would have had a lower BSI.

Thank you Zerg! Power per lvl is all that really matters to me. so I am very happy with what I am doing. One day, maybe I will even be able to steal your cookies and not leave my sp's on your keep BTW, yesterday was my birthday and you didn't even visit

[zserg]

Thank you Zerg! Power per lvl is all that really matters to me. so I am very happy with what I am doing. One day, maybe I will even be able to steal your cookies and not leave my sp's on your keep BTW, yesterday was my birthday and you didn't even visit

I've been wanting to visit you for a long time, but you don't have a boot link in your sig and i am too lazy to make my own

[kohh0015]

the only part of the game I like, is pvp. Monsters are boring, I hate them. But sometimes when you hit someone just right, or you bounce someone you shouldn't be able to, they squeak, with the funniest hate mail. But more often you get to bounce or break friends keeps.

I knew that you don't like monsters, from the way you put your skill points.