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    Using Barbarus and Orc King results in less loot with the same amount of stamina expended. Can anyone confirm this? Is it really true that in dragons the rewards are based on the number of PA attack that you made? I find it difficult to believe because if it is true then players with high strength are screwed.



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    i don't think it's true. just today i did a 30 stamina attack on a genesis and hit a x2 critical and then did another 30 stamina attack. about half a million damage in 2 hits, 60 total stamina. well before i could get back one of the other players blitzed the battle and it was over, time to collect rewards. my rewards looked very much like what i thought they would, maybe even a little better since i got one epic/purple item (terra's crown).
    this is only one incident but it didn't send up any red flags for me.
    ps who fights (lesser) dragons anymore once you've got the achievement?

    edit: what i think is really going on is people are finding that a bahamut and azriel are extremely stingy in their drops, you have to do about 10 million in damage to get what you're used to getting from a million against a lesser world monster.
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    • #3
      Don't think so My Azriel finished today and I hit with Barbarus 90 % of the time around 6.5 mil damage and got 4 rares and 3 epics + 1 favor point .... same type of loot those with up to 15 mil were reporting so ... So no I don't think they short you .... and I am level 171 if you want to put a level with the damage amount

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      • #4
        They say it is only applied to PA based monster like Dragons.
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        • #5
          False...the only difference it makes is how much PA you actually do. Using OK or Barba amplifies the amount that's all.

          Eg.

          Your total stamina is 300..on a 5 PA u can 60 times. Using any general hitting for 60 times or an OK hitting for 12 times will result the same. The overall is still hitting for 60 times..OK just hasten the process.

          And yes..this result is based on red dragons
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          • #6
            Check out this data
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            • #7
              Its a fact that ONLY Dragons are Power Attack based monsters. Their health is relevant to the power attacks inflicted
              Read this to understand.
              Again Only for Dragons, so please dont refer to other monsters

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              • #8
                These kind of data collected is only based on a group's experiences on the raids...and although it's 1 slot per dragon difference, there was little or no evidence where the 1 extra slot/dragon came from..it could be from any of the 5 categories spanning at 4-5 slots each and 3 for epics. Besides, they've only hit so much dragons using OK which is kinda unfair as an experiment of this kind of tabulation should be collected under similar if not exact environment.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by boboqiao View Post
                  Besides, they've only hit so much dragons using OK which is kinda unfair as an experiment of this kind of tabulation should be collected under similar if not exact environment.
                  You see, after you hit 10 dragons in a row, and notice a demi slot drop that typically isn't there in normal cases...

                  150 Stamina Reg - 3~ slots
                  150 Stamina OK/B - 2~ slots

                  You tend not to continue down the lesser reward path. As it's wasting stamina to do 100s when you can tell with 20s.

                  Still it's up to the individual if they want to believe this or not. According to my data, I believe it's true, even if a dev steps in and says it's not. When you get 2 slots ten times in a row, to cover that loss you need 4 slots ten times in a row. I'd rather just get typical 3s and a 2 now and then and a 4 now and then.

                  This has been tested for dragons only.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Micheal Knight View Post
                    You see, after you hit 10 dragons in a row, and notice a demi slot drop that typically isn't there in normal cases...

                    150 Stamina Reg - 3~ slots
                    150 Stamina OK/B - 2~ slots

                    You tend not to continue down the lesser reward path. As it's wasting stamina to do 100s when you can tell with 20s.

                    Still it's up to the individual if they want to believe this or not. According to my data, I believe it's true, even if a dev steps in and says it's not. When you get 2 slots ten times in a row, to cover that loss you need 4 slots ten times in a row. I'd rather just get typical 3s and a 2 now and then and a 4 now and then.

                    This has been tested for dragons only.
                    sometimes i do my usual damage (400kish) on dragons and get like 5-7 demi slots with OK...in fact i seldom get like 2-3 slots...it's usually on the 5s side with pots and FPs included. I'll rake up some ss after i the few dragons im doing dies in a few hours.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by boboqiao View Post
                      sometimes i do my usual damage (400kish) on dragons and get like 5-7 demi slots with OK...in fact i seldom get like 2-3 slots...it's usually on the 5s side with pots and FPs included. I'll rake up some ss after i the few dragons im doing dies in a few hours.
                      If I may ask, whats your current normal dmg? 3000?

                      I'd like to know because according to tests I've never seen more than 5demi slots per dragon, and this is doing over 300 PA. Reaching 1.5m in damage.

                      At 400,000 damage even with 2000 hits, you'll only typically get 4-5 demi. So I'm curious. Would you mind providing a screenshot of this? At your convenience of course, if you help us figure out any new data, you'll be credited properly.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by boboqiao View Post
                        sometimes i do my usual damage (400kish) on dragons and get like 5-7 demi slots with OK...in fact i seldom get like 2-3 slots...it's usually on the 5s side with pots and FPs included. I'll rake up some ss after i the few dragons im doing dies in a few hours.
                        7 demi slots You got to be kidding? Say You are? Please? I never had 6, seen pics, though. But 7? SEVEN!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Micheal Knight View Post
                          If I may ask, whats your current normal dmg? 3000?

                          I'd like to know because according to tests I've never seen more than 5demi slots per dragon, and this is doing over 300 PA. Reaching 1.5m in damage.

                          At 400,000 damage even with 2000 hits, you'll only typically get 4-5 demi. So I'm curious. Would you mind providing a screenshot of this? At your convenience of course, if you help us figure out any new data, you'll be credited properly.
                          yup sure..yea my attack is about 3.5kish per 5PA on dragons..i do like 17k on him usually. My usually demi slots (if you count pots and FPs) are like 5-6...it's weird how u say u get like 2 slots per dragon on average o__O..i'll get the ss up when the dragons are down if they hit the higher end of 5-6ish
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RAUKO View Post
                            7 demi slots You got to be kidding? Say You are? Please? I never had 6, seen pics, though. But 7? SEVEN!
                            i did remember getting 4x FPs slots and a potion among other demi points once...tat was 6 FPs gotten from the dragon..my best FP loot yet >__<
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by boboqiao View Post
                              i did remember getting 4x FPs slots and a potion among other demi points once...tat was 6 FPs gotten from the dragon..my best FP loot yet >__<
                              Had 5 five slots, seen pics of 6. Seven would be like a Revelation to me. Oh, I want to be a believer

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