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  • General ability question/ Demon Warrior

    I see we have received Demon Warrior in the mystery gift daily bonus…
    This general grants 24% critical damage.

    I have a hard time believing that they would have given us such a generous general that have those kinds of numbers for monster hunting.

    So my question is simply, is this general for monster hunting of battle?

    If it is for battling, what does the 24% mean?
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  • #2
    It's for monster hunting. Careful though, it's Critical Damage, not Critical Chance.

    Meaning your critical hits will deal 24% more damage (at level 4).

    It's still a very good general.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by gogoo View Post
      It's for monster hunting. Careful though, it's Critical Damage, not Critical Chance.

      Meaning your critical hits will deal 24% more damage (at level 4).

      It's still a very good general.
      Compared to Masilda, no contest!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gogoo View Post
        It's for monster hunting. Careful though, it's Critical Damage, not Critical Chance.

        Meaning your critical hits will deal 24% more damage (at level 4).

        It's still a very good general.
        I'm not sure where it'd fit in my alliance, though, which has a 6 star Dolomar + 5 star Barbarus + 4 star MK (Which might become 5 star)...Demon Warrior can be made 3 star with the coins available,but Dolomar's ~27% critical hit, or Barbarus' damage or MK's ability are kind of irreplaceable. Maybe Barbarus can go, and demon warrior can come in...Maybe I can use it in very special one off cases...difficult.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by starbearer View Post

          I'm not sure where it'd fit in my alliance, though, which has a 6 star Dolomar + 5 star Barbarus + 4 star MK (Which might become 5 star)...Demon Warrior can be made 3 star with the coins available,but Dolomar's ~27% critical hit, or Barbarus' damage or MK's ability are kind of irreplaceable. Maybe Barbarus can go, and demon warrior can come in...Maybe I can use it in very special one off cases...difficult.
          yup, that is why there is a recommendation before that we should have like 3-5 generals that can be allied to 3 generals... it doesnt have to be all generals, just a minimal number so we can all make some adjustment esp during guild battles.

          for my ios accts which have zero existing attack, my alliance is dolo-barbie-sorkan/sahar. now that i just got DW. it would be awesome to include this in the mix, but tbh i am not quite sure who i would let go.

          for the meantime add me 5E51FD and this
          Pls do not hurt me... coz i know someone who knows someone that knows someone who can hurt you.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by starbearer View Post

            I'm not sure where it'd fit in my alliance, though, which has a 6 star Dolomar + 5 star Barbarus + 4 star MK (Which might become 5 star)...Demon Warrior can be made 3 star with the coins available,but Dolomar's ~27% critical hit, or Barbarus' damage or MK's ability are kind of irreplaceable. Maybe Barbarus can go, and demon warrior can come in...Maybe I can use it in very special one off cases...difficult.
            If you use MK, Demon Warrior is probably not really useful for you. Although you'd probably get more dmg from WD than from a 4* Monkey King, but you'd lose out on extra XP / essence / etc.

            So for those who have MK, Moonlight Dragon or even Layla, DW will probably go sit on the shelf.

            However if you only have Barbarus-Dolomar as good monster hunting generals, DW is an awesome 3rd general.
            If you use Barb-Dolo-MLD, DW will actually outperform MLD, also.
            If you use Dolo-Barb-MLD... Not sure (you'd get a little bit of extra crit from MLD with the alliance in that order).

            Maybe DW could even replace Barb, if you have a lot of crit chance (and with the new Elf gear you can get even more than before). Also because Barb's dmg needs to "charge" which can require a significant amount of stam, while DW's ability would be fully operational right away.
            The issue would most likely be the decrease of the alliance stats if you have a high level / highly promoted Barb, so switching Barb for DW probably wouldn't be worth it because of this.


            In your specific case starbearer, I wouldn't use resources on DW, I'd keep your current alliance.
            Last edited by gogoo; 09-22-2021, 08:49 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gogoo View Post

              If you use MK, Demon Warrior is probably not really useful for you. Although you'd probably get more dmg from WD than from a 4* Monkey King, but you'd lose out on extra XP / essence / etc.

              So for those who have MK, Moonlight Dragon or even Layla, DW will probably go sit on the shelf.

              However if you only have Barbarus-Dolomar as good monster hunting generals, DW is an awesome 3rd general.
              If you use Barb-Dolo-MLD, DW will actually outperform MLD, also.
              If you use Dolo-Barb-MLD... Not sure (you'd get a little bit of extra crit from MLD with the alliance in that order).

              Maybe DW could even replace Barb, if you have a lot of crit chance (and with the new Elf gear you can get even more than before). Also because Barb's dmg needs to "charge" which can require a significant amount of stam, while DW's ability would be fully operational right away.
              The issue would most likely be the decrease of the alliance stats if you have a high level / highly promoted Barb, so switching Barb for DW probably wouldn't be worth it because of this.


              In your specific case starbearer, I wouldn't use resources on DW, I'd keep your current alliance.
              Thanks for summing it up. It'll most likely be on the shelf. I guess we can use it with Orc King or Barbarus / Maalvus with big hit 5X / 3X buttons when one is about to level up, so that if this last big hit is indeed a critical, you get at a minimum 25% more. Good general for lower level players, though. I can already see many lower level players in guild battles with this as their main general, might be their strongest general, though not meant for guild battles.
              Last edited by starbearer; 09-23-2021, 05:42 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by starbearer View Post

                Thanks for summing it up. It'll most likely be on the shelf. I guess we can use it with Orc King or Barbarus / Maalvus with big hit 5X / 3X buttons when one is about to level up, so that if this last big hit is indeed a critical, you get at a minimum 25% more.
                Right, very good point. It's a very niche use, but I do actually do that with MLD when I (rarely) have to level up with a 600 stam hit, for instance. I switch MK for MLD. And DW would be even better in that case (with Barb first at least - debatable with Orc King first as some crit from MLD would transfer).

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                • #9
                  Oh and btw if you want to check which general is best for you, you can use this:

                  Spreadsheet - enhanced Monster damage calculator (with Critical Chance & more)

                  It can also help with the choice of equipment and Chaos Gems (with +crit or +aggressive general boost).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gogoo View Post
                    Oh and btw if you want to check which general is best for you, you can use this:

                    Spreadsheet - enhanced Monster damage calculator (with Critical Chance & more)

                    It can also help with the choice of equipment and Chaos Gems (with +crit or +aggressive general boost).
                    wow!!! i was about to post here and ask where to find those damage threshold for monster and bam here it is!

                    thanks!
                    for the meantime add me 5E51FD and this
                    Pls do not hurt me... coz i know someone who knows someone that knows someone who can hurt you.

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                    • #11
                      The DW gear is good, and worth buying if you plan to make her a lead general. I only plan to do that for one of my toons, so the other toons bought Lightning of God for that same 6000 coins. DemonWarriorCover.jpg
                      Last edited by Bandigerbolls; 09-24-2021, 10:58 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bandigerbolls View Post
                        The DW gear is good, and worth buying if you plan to make her a lead general. I only plan to do that for one of my toons, so the other toons bought Lightning of God for that same 6000 coins.
                        Yeah +3.2% crit chance is very nice. But probably only relatively new account may consider using DW as master.
                        And the issue is that it would still be a lot better (at relatively high general levels) to have a 5 stars Barbarus or Dolomar first than a 2 or 3 stars DW, even with this +3.2% bonus.

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