Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules [Updated 12/21/2016]

MAIN RULES OF THE FORUMS

Please respect your community. Respect each other as you all enjoy the same thing – The Game.

We encourage open and friendly discussion of the game and the Community. Moderators and Staff have final decisions on all matters, and are here to make sure that the Community remains a friendly, fun place appropriate for players of all backgrounds, ages and groups.

It is the forum member's responsibility to stay up to date on forum rules and to honor the behavior outlined.

PURPOSE OF THE FORUMS

These forums provide an area for constructive player discussions of the game. It also allows players to
help each other identify bugs and issues, and help each other reproduce and resolve them.

These forums are not the most direct way to contact support. If you’re having an issue with your game and you need direct assistance, please tap on the FAQ/Support tab within the game.

CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENT

Please make sure to stay updated on these rules by reviewing this page from time to time.

SET RULES

This is a private board. As such, decisions made are final.
We reserve the right to remove any message board content without notice for any reason.


Rule 1: Responses to rule violations
Violating these rules will result in warnings, either formal or informal, suspensions, banning, or other sanctions.

Rule 2: Respect other users on the forums
- Do not make attacks or insult other users, either in the forums or through private messages. Disagreements and debates are fine, but don’t make it personal.
- Do not attack groups. This includes professions, races, religions, sexual orientations, genders, incomes, or even vague groups like “you people.”
- Do not use ill terms which are offensive to groups, do not “flame”, “troll.” or “haze”.

Rule 3: Respect the forum purpose and structure
- Make your posts in the appropriate forum.
- Please use the Search function. If a relevant thread already exists, please post there instead of creating a new thread about the same topic. Duplicate threads will be closed to keep the forums orderly and easy to navigate.
- Keep off-topic posts in the off-topic forum.
- Don’t start discussions about games that are not ours.
- Do not cross-link to other message boards or websites unless approved by a moderator.

Rule 4: Respect the law
- Do not post anything illegal under U.S. law, or encourage other users to break the laws of the U.S. or their country of residence.
- Do not encourage users to break terms of service. This includes giving information about how to find scripts, exploits, or cheats, as well as arranging to buy or sell accounts or virtual goods.

Rule 5: Respect the audience
Think about who you're talking to. Users may be as young as 13 on these message boards, and may be male or female, and from countries across the globe.
- Keep your language civil. Profanity is frowned on.
- Do not post Adult Material, inappropriate graphic sexual content in any format, or links to sexually explicit sites.
- Do not post graphic images or explicit descriptions of violent acts.
- Do not use an avatar or signature that could offend other users. They have to look at it a lot.

Rule 6: Respect privacy
- Do not post any private emails or private messages unless you have the explicit permission of each person involved in the exchange.
- Do not post private communication between customer support, members, moderators, or administrators on these forums, or anywhere else. (This include support ticket responses)
- Do not post any information covered by a non-disclosure agreement or beta testing agreement. Even if you somehow have inside information about our competitors, for legal reasons we don’t want to hear it.
- Do not post Facebook information about other forum users.
- Do not post any private information about other users.
- Do not post in-game information in an attempt to have other players attack your target. Be careful to not cross the line into bullying.

Rule 7: Do not spam
- Do not post repeatedly about the same topic.
- Do not spam users on the forums or through private messages.
- Do not start a thread without actual purpose.
- Do not start a thread about a news story or article unless you make it clear what the story is about, and offer your own opinion to start a discussion.

Rule 8: Respect your account
- Do not share your account information with other individuals. You will be held responsible for any rules violations that occur under your account.
- Do not create new accounts or use other tricks to avoid suspensions or bans.
- Do not create ‘sock puppet’ accounts – multiple accounts created just so that you can agree with yourself and make it seem like your ideas have more support than they do.
- Never include your e-mail address or any other personal information in posts.

Rule 9: Respect the Moderators
- Do not post using the color red. This color is reserved for moderators.
- Do not impersonate moderators. Do not claim to speak for the moderators.

Rule 10: Respect the decisions of the moderators
- The moderation teams reserves the right to warn, suspend, or permanently ban users judged to be acting against the spirit of the rules, even if the user is following the letter of the rules.
- Do not argue with moderators about moderator decisions. You can disagree with a moderator’s opinions, just like any other poster, but when they post moderator actions in red text, it is considered final.
- Moderators have no access to your game account. If you have an issue you must contact customer service.

Generally, BE NICE. There is nothing wrong with being nice to each other.
See more
See less

green crystals nerfed

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • green crystals nerfed

    I thought today being the day to get a few greens in monster drops, I'd spend a few refills. So after over 5000 stam. my total gain was 0....not a single one. I heard a rumor that they were being cut back, now I've seen the proof for myself. More intentional impediments from the devs.....great job as always!!!

  • #2
    I’ve also used 9k stamina without a single green crystal. This needs to be reverted ASAP. We already have a bottleneck in blue crystals - they are so rare. This change will wreck new players - no way they will ever be able to compete. The game is already the hardest game for newcomers on planet earth. Pass it along moderators. Thank you.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by RABID View Post
      I thought today being the day to get a few greens in monster drops, I'd spend a few refills. So after over 5000 stam. my total gain was 0....not a single one. I heard a rumor that they were being cut back, now I've seen the proof for myself. More intentional impediments from the devs.....great job as always!!!
      That is an opinion and you are entitled to that opinion. But opinions are not facts.

      I use three toons: Main & two mini’s. Both mini’s hit using natural stamina regen and both gotten green crystals so there is no nerf. My main has gotten green crystals from both excavations and from monster drops.

      Here are the facts. Monster drops is when a green crystal has a chance to occur. So this website has a guide on how essence drop per cumulative stamina employed on the same mob.

      https://castleage.fandom.com/wiki/Essence (see drop mechanics).

      After a while, hitting the same mob, you get once essence drop every 120 stamina, and hence 1 CHANCE for green crystal at 15% probability of success per chance, respectively.

      Therefore, the test IS NOT the absolute number of stamina employed but how many “essence drops” in those stamina employed.

      For example, suppose I employed 2,400 stamina at 600 stamina per hit (3x200 stamina with Barbarus). I only get 4 essence drops. I get 4 chances at green crystals.

      Suppose I spent that same 2,400 at 150 stamina hits but hit various mobs; again, my drops will decline because the first essence drops are 150 stamina each.

      Suppose, I hit with Barbarus at 20 stamina (which is 60 stamina in total) on the same mob for those 2,400 stamina. I should get roughly 19 chances.

      So we have a case of the same 2,400 stamina employed but 1 person 4 chances (based on 600 stamina hits) and another person got 19 chances (based on 60 stamina hits). It’s simply not the number of stamina employed but how many essence drops from those stamina!

      I need lots of green crystals for Hera, Trundle, Aethyx, Brackus, etc that I need to level up. Green crystals are dropping just fine. I personal spent over 3,400 stamina since the start of Friday using my main at 60 stamina hits.

      Separately, 5K stamina is too small a sample size IMO for a binominal test.

      In summary, the sky is not falling.


      Comment


      • #4
        When you are farming green crystals, there are two proven methods:

        1. You finish excavations but do not collect until Friday. You get 4 chances due to 4 different excavations.

        2. You use big hits on a mob; the bit hits are 1K, 600, 300 stamina hits and then on Friday, you do a series of baby hits to get drops for chances at green crystals.

        The risk with this approach is a public mob may die before Friday.

        This is why you often see large stamina hits to assure the person gets a legendary or epic drop, and then you see a series of baby hits (say 10 stamina each) to soak up the earned but unreleased drops.

        Comment


        • #5
          Forgot to mention this: Some mobs do not drop essence.

          For example, Poseidon does not drop essence so no amount of stamina will result in a green crystal.

          If the mob does not drop essence = no chance at green crystals.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Batw View Post

            That is an opinion and you are entitled to that opinion. But opinions are not facts.

            For example, suppose

            Suppose

            Suppose,
            The numbers I stated ARE FACTS....0 drops in over 5000 stam on rats....and here you are...doing lots of "supposing" and conjecture....ya...thanks for your "opinion"

            Comment


            • #7
              I just got 2 green crystals in 1700 stamina. I didn't count how many essence drops I got, but I was using small stm hits, so that's around, 13-14 drops I imagine.

              I dunno what the rates are, because I would have to spend a lot more stamina to make any call on that, but they aren't zero % at least.
              Follow CAGT on FB for tips and game updates. You can also follow our Twitter account @CastleAge_GT.
              New or returning player? Check out this guide

              Forum community. Things you should expect when posting here.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by RABID View Post

                The numbers I stated ARE FACTS....0 drops in over 5000 stam on rats....and here you are...doing lots of "supposing" and conjecture....ya...thanks for your "opinion"
                You did not understand what Batw said.
                If you used Orc King and did 5 * 1000 stam hits (worst case scenario), you only got 5 chances at essence/crystal drops with your 5000 stamina. If you used 60 stam hits, you got a lot more chances. It also changes things if you hit 1 single monster or several monsters with that 5k stam.

                But even if you hit a single monster with 60 stam hits (best case scenario or close), 5k stamina isn't a big enough amount to prove anything.
                You could have just been unlucky, and personally I believe that's what happened.
                Have you come here to tell everyone green crystals drops had been buffed when you got 3 drops in a row that one time, and thanked the devs?
                ​​​​​​

                ​​​​Green crystals were dropping very fine for me yesterday, I absolutely don't believe they've been nerfed.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by gogoo View Post

                  You did not understand what Batw said.
                  If you used Orc King and did 5 * 1000 stam hits (worst case scenario), you only got 5 chances at essence/crystal drops with your 5000 stamina. If you used 60 stam hits, you got a lot more chances. It also changes things if you hit 1 single monster or several monsters with that 5k stam.

                  But even if you hit a single monster with 60 stam hits (best case scenario or close), 5k stamina isn't a big enough amount to prove anything.
                  You could have just been unlucky, and personally I believe that's what happened.
                  Have you come here to tell everyone green crystals drops had been buffed when you got 3 drops in a row that one time, and thanked the devs?
                  ​​​​​​

                  ​​​​Green crystals were dropping very fine for me yesterday, I absolutely don't believe they've been nerfed.
                  Oh I understood what he was trying to say...lol. And FYI, I don't use orc king because I want to maximize my drops....so there goes that theory out the window. 50 stam attacks for over 5000 total stam IS a good indication of drop ratio....whether or not you want to admit it depends on your standpoint......despite the fact that numerous players in the game have been saying the same as I have....the ratio's have dropped....like silvers dropped when electrum ingots were introduced.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    There ARE still issues in the game, each month stats reset, ie guild monster and battle points, but THIS month, still has LAST month numbers in it. Something more for them to work on, so drops not happening is believable.
                    We are the American Patriots. We stand up to terrorist, domestic or foreign And we back the men and women of law enforcement.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RABID View Post

                      Oh I understood what he was trying to say...lol. And FYI, I don't use orc king because I want to maximize my drops....so there goes that theory out the window. 50 stam attacks for over 5000 total stam IS a good indication of drop ratio....whether or not you want to admit it depends on your standpoint......despite the fact that numerous players in the game have been saying the same as I have....the ratio's have dropped....like silvers dropped when electrum ingots were introduced.
                      It was not a theory 🤦‍♂️ We were just saying simply indicating "I used 5000 stamina" is not good enough to actually draw conclusions.

                      And no, unless you actually collect data over 100k stamina used (or whatever a good enough amount would be) I'm not going to believe whatever you say has been nerfed. People have a tendancy to see what's negative much more than what's positive (and you're very good at that since I've only ever seen you whine on these forums and nothing else). So they notice and get mad when they get no drops for several thousand stamina (especially of they're actively looking for them), but quickly forget when they actually get 4 drops while using 1000 stam. It's a (quite common I believe) cognitive bias.

                      Funny thing is I just gotten 3 green crystals drops in a row while hitting a monster this morning, btw.
                      So I guess after the ratio being nerfed, they buffed it to 100% 🤷‍♂️
                      Jokes aside, how many thousands of stamina do I need to go without a drop now to make up for that luck and for the ratio to "come back" to 15%?
                      Last edited by gogoo; 01-02-2021, 11:59 AM.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        lmao....you're almost funny....a continuous defender of a flawed platform....but that's your role here and we see it. you say I whine about the game....by whine it appears the true interpretation would be to point out the obvious flaws and shortcomings the players are left to deal with on a daily basis....that's not whining....it's making valid points....which you don't like. But hey, let the players come to their own conclusions, I'm simply stating my observations and you continue to deny that they exist....you, however forgot to deny the fact that silver ingots were reduced.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RABID View Post
                          lmao....you're almost funny....a continuous defender of a flawed platform....but that's your role here and we see it. you say I whine about the game....by whine it appears the true interpretation would be to point out the obvious flaws and shortcomings the players are left to deal with on a daily basis....that's not whining....it's making valid points....which you don't like. But hey, let the players come to their own conclusions, I'm simply stating my observations and you continue to deny that they exist....you, however forgot to deny the fact that silver ingots were reduced.
                          1) I don't have a role here. I'm just a player, nothing more. I just like finding info about the game and spreading it to help everyone.

                          2) I absolutely don't always defend the game. There are plenty of flaws and I've been actively suggesting changes and fixes through the forums or Discord.
                          Here you're not talking about a flaw, you're whining about something while you have 0 proof of what you're saying.
                          Who knows, maybe the drops have been nerfed. But you don't know that and you still claim it as the truth. That's what I'm against.

                          3) I have absolutely zero clue about the silver ingot stuff, so no I'm not going to say anything about it. Never heard about it, but I've only been active on forums in the past few years, so I suppose that was before that.
                          Last edited by gogoo; 01-02-2021, 02:30 PM.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            No problems getting green crystals for me. Same as usual, I can hit a lot and not get any, I can get quite a few in a burst, or I can get them randomly. It is almost as if it is a % chance
                            Chimوra

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              I just spent about 2.4K stamina and received two green evolution crystals. They always drop very rarely for me so I don't notice any changes
                              Oliver landed a CRITICAL HIT on Ogrimus, Death Rat Horde's Rat Horde hitting them for an UNGODLY amount of Damage[38,625,888]!

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X