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Treasure Island chests drop rate - Determined! (roughly)

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  • Treasure Island chests drop rate - Determined! (roughly)

    Initial thread here: Treasure Island chests drop rate - Let's try to determine it!

    So with the help of Kroki I've roughly determined the drop rate of the "Free Treasure Island Rolls" (aka TI chests) dropped from Monsters during the event.

    I'm not going to make you wait: the result is 1775 Stamina / TI chest drop (on average).

    This result is based on about 2.5 million stamina used.



    I'll detail my calculations in the 2nd post of this thread, but here's the main data I used:

    Kroki started Treasure Island on Feb. 7, 2020 at level 8667.
    At the end of the event on Feb. 12 he was level 8825.
    => That's 158 level ups (in 6 days)

    He used 215 Full Stamina Potions in total.

    And he earned a total of 1406 TI chests.

    Side note: he used almost exclusively 200 stamina hits (but I don't believe that matters).



    I also calculated the drop rate on different days to try to debunk what I believe are rumors, such as:
    - The drop rate is better / only good on the first day
    - There are diminishing returns on the drops: the more stamina you use, the more stamina you need to use for your next drop.

    Day 1: 1,668 Stamina / TI chest drop

    Day 2: 1,807 Stamina / TI chest drop

    Day 6: 1,682 stamina / TI chest drop

    We can clearly see that the drop rate on the first and last day are pretty much the same (and a bit better than the overall drop rate, but nothing huge).
    And actually he didn't use any Potion at all on the last day, while he used a few on the first day, so his drop rate has probably been slightly better on the last day in reality.

    I don't have the data for the 3rd, 4th and 5th day as Kroki used many Stamina Potions during those days (and didn't count how many he used and when) as he traded millions of Essences, and also didn't note his level at the start and end of the day anyway.

    As for people believing the drop rate gets worst with every event, I also believe that's absolutely not true (even though ofc this data doesn't prove it).


    Details on the calculations in the post below
    Last edited by gogoo; 02-13-2020, 05:24 PM.

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    Details / Calculations



    Kroki started Treasure Island on Feb. 7, 2020 at level 8667.
    At the end of the event on Feb. 12 he was level 8825.
    => That's 158 level ups (in 6 days)

    He used 215 Full Stamina Potions in total.

    And he earned a total of 1406 TI chests.


    Details for certain days

    First day (7th):
    8667 => 8691
    24 level-ups, 200 TI chests
    Almost no Potions used

    Second day (8th):
    26 level-ups, 200 TI chests
    Almost no Potions used

    No data on the 3rd, 4th and 5th day.
    During those days he traded over 20m Essence and had to use lots of Potions.

    Sixth day (12th):
    8791 => 8825
    34 level-ups, 281 chests
    No Potions used


    Stamina consumption

    Kroki has 10k stamina.
    His Layla-MK alliance gives him 28,4795% chance for no stamina cost.

    10,000 + 2,848 + 811 + 231 + ... [negligible] = 13,900 stamina used per level on avg
    1,000 + 285 + 81 + 23 + ... [negligible] = 1,390 stamina used per Full Stamina Potion on avg

    He almost exclusively uses 200 stamina hits (20 stam hits to collect Essences when finishing off a monster).


    Calculations

    For the full duration of the event

    158 * 13,900 = 2,196,200 stamina from level-ups
    215 * 1,390 = 298,850 stamina from Potions

    Total = 2,495,050 stamina used during the event.
    (btw, that's the equivalent of 12,475 hits of 200 stamina)

    2,495,050 / 1,406 = 1775 stamina / TI chest drop on avg.

    On the first day

    24 * 13,900 = 333,600 stamina
    Almost no potions used
    (I'm not counting them as I don't have an exact number)

    333,600 / 200 = 1,668 stamina / drop

    On the 2nd day

    26 * 13,900 = 361,400 stamina
    Almost no potions used
    (I'm not counting them as I don't have an exact number)

    361,400 / 200 = 1,807 stamina / drop

    On the 6th day (last day)

    34 * 13,900 = 472,600 stamina
    No Potions used

    472,600 / 281 = 1,682 stamina / drop

    Last edited by gogoo; 02-13-2020, 05:27 PM.

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    • #3
      Pfft, like I'm going to listen to your empirical mumbo jumbo proving that drops are overall consistent when I've got plenty of pages of hearsay, conjecture and confirmation bias to tell me all I need 😎

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      • #4
        The worst drop rate ever. Feels like the devs doesn't take comments etc serious. Played this game for very long and seen these events and the drop rates. Makes me sad to see a grate game going down. I do play and pay, even I've lowered my payment to the game. I really hope devs look at the bad comments on the CA facebook site and upper rates in new events (this will add players and might even get old players back)...and by giving higher drop rates you get more players in the game.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gaffers View Post
          Pfft, like I'm going to listen to your empirical mumbo jumbo proving that drops are overall consistent when I've got plenty of pages of hearsay, conjecture and confirmation bias to tell me all I need 😎
          I love this haha 😄

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          • #6
            Well since it looks like they received 7 legendary chests i wonder what they got. How many mpre wraith kings and thanes out of those 7.
            Army code A26200. Castle age is the only game I play on the Computer.
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            Castle age player since July 2010. level 1247 on 11/03/2019

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            • #7
              Originally posted by c.lee.r View Post
              Well since it looks like they received 7 legendary chests i wonder what they got. How many mpre wraith kings and thanes out of those 7.
              He got 4 MK, 2 WK and 1 Thane so overall he was quite pleased as what he wants most is MK (well and Layla, but hoping for this one is a lost cause).

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              • #8
                hi is there a link to treasure island, wanna see my drops again
                not sure if i got hero crystals or legend chest so weird

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by baoyutaohuagong View Post
                  hi is there a link to treasure island, wanna see my drops again
                  not sure if i got hero crystals or legend chest so weird
                  Yes, it's turntable_fb.php

                  FB:
                  https://apps.facebook.com/castle_age/turntable_fb.php

                  Web3:
                  https://web3.castleagegame.com/castl...rntable_fb.php

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                  • #10
                    thx a lot again, no legendary chest just hero crystal
                    Last edited by baoyutaohuagong; 02-14-2020, 02:19 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Results look about right to me. I was getting roughly 10 chests per level, and I have a bit better than 11k stamina. Some of the time it would take an extra full potion to level plus the extra stamina from Layla plus 7 star MK. I was able to get 3 legendaries. 1MK, 1 Hera, and 1 Thane. Overall, I was happy.

                      For my build, it cost me nothing. At the end of the event I was plus over 120 extra full stamina and energy potions and about 25 free chest rolls. Not sure based on my and other monster hunter builds that increasing the drop rate is feasible.

                      Quick question... Has anyone ever rolled a legendary chest without reaching the 200 luck value?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by grips View Post
                        Results look about right to me. I was getting roughly 10 chests per level, and I have a bit better than 11k stamina. Some of the time it would take an extra full potion to level plus the extra stamina from Layla plus 7 star MK. I was able to get 3 legendaries. 1MK, 1 Hera, and 1 Thane. Overall, I was happy.

                        For my build, it cost me nothing. At the end of the event I was plus over 120 extra full stamina and energy potions and about 25 free chest rolls. Not sure based on my and other monster hunter builds that increasing the drop rate is feasible.

                        Quick question... Has anyone ever rolled a legendary chest without reaching the 200 luck value?
                        Yes that's possible, although it seems to be extremely rare. I've heard of it twice, the lowest being on the 109th spin.

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                        • #13
                          That's good evidence that after the first 1 or 2 drops, the odds remain consistent until the event ends.

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