clarify about Barbarus

[dragonfly522]

Someone told me that Barbarus does extra damage on monsters and not jus on crit hits. I tested the theory but it came back several times that both Barbarus and Maalvus do the same base damage, not including crit hits and their attacks and defenses stats. are both similar. If it's correct, and I think I am, Maalvus is way better than Barbarus because he has a very valuable ability in crit hit chances. Then there are two other abilities that are essential. I love Demon Warrior's crit hit damage boost and Monkey King's chances to return stamina (not counting the same ability for energy and tokens) The wiki states that Barbarus does up to Y% more damage, depending on player damage to monster. It doesn't go into any more detail unless u have some other knowledge based on people who've played the game and found out how it works. I could use some input.

[dragonfly522]

I want to add that the generals page states that Barbarus is simply a monster hunter. Hmm....vague, are we? lol

[gogoo]

Barbarus is indeed much better and his ability does work and increases all your damage, not just crit hits.

Maalvus is usually terrible **because** of his crit chance ability, because it doens't give a lot of crit chance, and then if you put a better crit chance general behind him (dolo or kaiser e.g.), you only get 25% of this 2nd general's crit chance.

So usually a good alliance would be Barb + Dolo/Kaiser + MK/Demon Warrior for instance. Maalvus doens't fit in such an alliance.


Some extra info on the last note on his ability, btw (at the end of the wiki article):
https://castleage.fandom.com/wiki/Barbarus#Notes

[JefferMC]

Note that the reference back to the forums from the referenced Wiki page is a dead link. Be nice to fix the reference or remove it.

[gogoo]

Note that the reference back to the forums from the referenced Wiki page is a dead link. Be nice to fix the reference or remove it.

The link works for me, leads to this: https://www.castleageforums.com/foru...r-how-it-grows

[dragonfly522]

ty everybody. I am sold.

[JefferMC]

The link works for me, leads to this: https://www.castleageforums.com/foru...r-how-it-grows

Works for me, now. Thanks.

[dragonfly522]

I have another question. Has anybody studied whether the demon warrior does more or less extra damage than the barbarus does when his extra damage kicks in?

[JefferMC]

The Demon Warrior increases the damage done if the critical chance roll is made. On my character/loadout, it basically turns 2X/3X critical hits into 3X/4X critical hits. To put it another way: say I get 4M from a hit where there is no critical, and 8M or 12M when there is a critical. After adding Demon Warrior (now level 35) in the loadout, the damage on a critical went up to about 12M or 16M. With Hell Viper, it's up another few million.

For me, it's not a Barbarus or Demon Warrior choice, I'm using both (and Kang, a Critical Chance general as well), but instead of something with +monster attack in the 3rd slot, I use Demon Warrior.

[dragonfly522]

I'll test it out ty

[dragonfly522]

I like Slayer because he offers the most crit hit chance, seemingly; however, that 1-2% difference with Maalvus is actually better overall because of the attack and defense power that he (Maalvus) gives. It's kind of like using a gen that gives u added monster attack. My Maalvis is maxed out at 1431 attack and 1263 defense. So I use, in order on the alliance, first Barbarus, second Maalvus, and third Demon Warrior. Maalvus is in the secondary slot because his attack and defense power is going to be higher overall than if he was put in the third slot. If someone doesn't understand something, let me know.

[Eadwine]

Imo you'll do a lot better, in your monster hunt group, if you replace Maalvus with a real crit general ie. Dolomar, Kaiser or Kang, etc. Jus sayin...

[dragonfly522]

Plz explain what u mean

[JefferMC]

I believe that he means that Maalvus' Critical % chance isn't as good as some that don't have the 3X hit ability, and he lists some with a better critical chance: Dolomar, Kaiser, and Kang.

e.g. at level 50: Maalvus' Critical chance is 10%. Dolomar's at the same level is 15%. Kaiser's 13% and Kang's 16.22%. Of course, two of these are chest generals.

[Eadwine]

Dolomar and Kaiser are favor generals. Criticals have been a rage for me since I pulled Lothar the Ranger on my first ever chest pull 13 years ago. I took Kaiser to 4* level 54 before I became convinced that Dolomar had more upside, so I switched and have taken Dolo to 7* level 79. My Barbarus is the same. Maalvus and Slayer are second rate versions of Barbarus and Dolomar. You don't have to believe anyone. Keep using them and leveling them and keep reading more and comparing the numbers. Eventually, you'll have 4* level 54s and realize you need to go in a better direction. That's what I did.