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Understanding the Wraith King ability.

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  • rammsteintr
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    i want improve my damage 1 stamina give me only 1000 damage
    how to build guys?

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  • Luciffer
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    I decided that Im going to put in some effort to Level up my Thane, I just got him to Level 39 (40% chance). I just wanted to ask which are the 2 best alliances to put Thane in, So I can test him out. I would like 1 Offensive Alliance as well as a defensive alliance. If any one would like to help me test out Thane just let me know.

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  • raggttop91
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    Originally posted by Luciffer View Post
    Now you got me thinking if he grants a lot better chance to win duels. The coliseum would be a perfect example to test it out. A lot of times I switch out generals to see if I can defeat someone. I would goto Odin and if that doesn’t work add on Remiel. Now I can do alliance with Odin and Thane to see if that would make a difference. Too bad my Thane is only level 24 and don’t have the resources to level him up since a lot of my other hero’s have priority to the resources. But something to ponder on.
    I agree. Mine is only L16. He isn't making any noise yet. I see Thane as only moderately useful in a duel/battle, or on defense so far. We will see as I use him a bit more. Let me know who yours fares too, would ya? Thanks.

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  • raggttop91
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    Because of the glitch, we really cant tell if Layla Is boosting his hit frequency. That would be nice if they fixed that, lol. I would not use Thane over Jera in a battle. I just don't know how a 6 star Thane would do with Layla. Currently theres no way to tell. I cant ever see using Thane over Jera though. Jera's consistent damage boost on ever hit is a better choice even if Thane activated 60% of the time. Thane may be a lot better with more copies at higher levels. I still would certainly prefer Jera over him. He is just too inconsistent for warrior class. Ive tried him on attack in battle. Meh....Thats just my observation of him . Again, my Thane is not multi starred or a decent level yet. Not sure what he could turn out to be. Ill test him again with Layla to see what the frequency of strikes are vs not using her. Id go with the guaranteed damage output, especially if confidence is your friend He could be decent on defense, possibly? Guess Ill see what he can do leveled and with Layla. Right now, Im not blown away with the little fella, lol. Stick with Jera.

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  • Luciffer
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    Now you got me thinking if he grants a lot better chance to win duels. The coliseum would be a perfect example to test it out. A lot of times I switch out generals to see if I can defeat someone. I would goto Odin and if that doesn’t work add on Remiel. Now I can do alliance with Odin and Thane to see if that would make a difference. Too bad my Thane is only level 24 and don’t have the resources to level him up since a lot of my other hero’s have priority to the resources. But something to ponder on.

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  • gogoo
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    Originally posted by Luciffer View Post
    another question is let’s say you have like a 6 star Thane at level 80 and let’s say his power does work with Lara’s ability. Would you still replace someone like Jera with Thane that has a guaranteed damage output.
    Jera is for damage. Thane is to win duels. 2 very different things.
    So the question IMO should rather be, would you replace Guinevere/Brakus/Remiel or a similar general with Thane.

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  • Luciffer
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    Now the matter of Thane having powers in the 3rd slot is something I believe. What I have question is with him being in the 3rd slot take advantage of Layla’s heroes power of gaining a better chance for him to succeed. I don’t think we will really know until the game fixes the feature in his stats when you check on the alliance.

    another question is let’s say you have like a 6 star Thane at level 80 and let’s say his power does work with Lara’s ability. Would you still replace someone like Jera with Thane that has a guaranteed damage output.

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  • raggttop91
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    Originally posted by Luciffer View Post
    When I put Thane in the alliance with Layla none of his powers show up. Only seems Thanes powers show up when he is lead in alliance. At least for me anyway.
    Im absolutely certain that it does work without Thane in the first slot. He just activated twice for me with him in the 3rd slot again. Its pretty random. Took 6 hits before it hit the first time and 4 before h it hit the 2nd time. Does work though without Thane in the first slot for sure. He still activates whichever slot he is in.

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  • raggttop91
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    Id screen shot it but but its not that serious, lol. I have Thane in the 3rd position, Layla in the first position and MK in 2nd position. It activated on the 4th hit this time. It certainly doesn't activate enough fo rme to really want to use him, but I could see it you had enough copies of him, he could be awesome. I have only one copy and its not worth it to use him just yet.

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  • raggttop91
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    Youre correct. It doesnt show up in print because of the glitch. The powers definitely do activate though, even though you dont see the words in print. Try it. I just did it again. Took 6 hits before it activated, but it did.

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  • Luciffer
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    When I put Thane in the alliance with Layla none of his powers show up. Only seems Thanes powers show up when he is lead in alliance. At least for me anyway.

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  • raggttop91
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    Originally posted by Luciffer View Post

    One good thing about Wrath King unlike some other generals like Thane is that he does not have to be a lead in the Alliance. I used him with Layla and he get the bonus from that. I believe his chance of success is pretty much the same chance one would have with Monkey King. Now we all know that when Monkey King procs you save that stamina or energy in that attack. I would just love to know where Wrath Kings attack and Defense gets applied too. It may be similar to Thane in which Thane would ignore some resistances and may give you a victory in a duel that would not have a chance of winning. If may be the same with Wrath King where the attack/defense gives somewhat a better chance to gain a victory in someone who could defeat you. But if your fighting someone who you can easily win against Im sure that extra attack/defense would be useless.
    Thane doesn't need to be the Master of your alliance for his ability to kick in. Not at all, my friend. I use him occasionally but never in the first position. Layla doesnt seem to be to anything in any way at all to my Thane. Granted my Thane is only L16. My Layla is 3 Star L80 and she doenst do anything for him. My WK straight sucks. Worthless in my opinion, but opinions may vary. So these have been my observations using varying setups with Thane and Layla.

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  • Luciffer
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    Originally posted by gogoo View Post
    Also if WK is not the master of the alliance, does his ability still increases the full alliance stats by 50%?
    One good thing about Wrath King unlike some other generals like Thane is that he does not have to be a lead in the Alliance. I used him with Layla and he get the bonus from that. I believe his chance of success is pretty much the same chance one would have with Monkey King. Now we all know that when Monkey King procs you save that stamina or energy in that attack. I would just love to know where Wrath Kings attack and Defense gets applied too. It may be similar to Thane in which Thane would ignore some resistances and may give you a victory in a duel that would not have a chance of winning. If may be the same with Wrath King where the attack/defense gives somewhat a better chance to gain a victory in someone who could defeat you. But if your fighting someone who you can easily win against Im sure that extra attack/defense would be useless.

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  • gogoo
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    That's an interesting thought. IF the stats boost goes to the alliance stats, WK ability could be interesting for monster hunting. However the chance to trigger his ability is so low, I think it would be close to worthless anyway unless you have him at least at 5 or 6 stars level 79 or 80. So that the stats boost would be relatively significant and the chance to trigger would be around 20% probably.
    Also if WK is not the master of the alliance, does his ability still increases the full alliance stats by 50%?

    However anyway, the stats boost may go the the player stats (and not the alliance stats) and in that case it would be insignificant for monster hunting (cf. Generalities about Monster Hunting Generals). Some testing would need to be conducted in order to determine that.
    But anyway, I think even in the best case scenario he would probably still pale compared to some other monster hunting generals.

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  • Luciffer
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    Now here is something to think about. If attack/defense does not increase the damage. Would he be more viable in hitting monsters where attack is more damage. For example when I wanna do 1000 Stamina hits and have an alliance of Orc King/Barbarus/Moonlight Dragon. I know that Barbarus with his monster hunter gives guaranteed damage every time. But would the bonus in attack that once in a while that procs that attack, may be something to consider in using a Orc King/Wraith king/Crit monster alliance?

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