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  • Max meekah-boost Confidence with defensive wins

    I hit for 20 tokens and max out my confidence with meekah
    I then switch to a defensive loadout that uses confidence but doesn't have meekah.
    I have a defensive win, which increases confidence
    Is my confidence at the same meekah-boosted level as before, or is it now 'normal' max level?

    If it drops to the standard max level, does that mean I'd be better off with a defensive loadout that doesn't have confidence? Or would that lose all confidence entirely? (So this is two questions, really)

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    You should have Meekah in your def loadout too, in order not to lose any Conf level via def wins.
    Otherwise, it will drop significantly.
    Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

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    • #3
      Yes, it will drop significantly. Let me offer another view though, I dont use Meekah in my defense loadout. I use 7* Daphne/ 3*Tora/ 3*Hera. With that loadout, my Win loss ratio is extremely solid. My confidence builds on defensive wins even further. Thats my preferred strategy. Just another to consider

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      • #4
        Originally posted by raggttop91 View Post
        Yes, it will drop significantly. Let me offer another view though, I dont use Meekah in my defense loadout. I use 7* Daphne/ 3*Tora/ 3*Hera. With that loadout, my Win loss ratio is extremely solid. My confidence builds on defensive wins even further. Thats my preferred strategy. Just another to consider
        If you don't have Meekah equipped in your def loadout though you'll only be able to build a maximum of 5 stacks of Confidence. And if you had more than 5 stacks before switching to your def loadout, the first time you'll be hit your Confidence will drop to 5 stacks (even if you win).
        If you use this loadout because you need it to win your defensive duels that's one thing, but if you want to build Confidence you need Meekah in it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gaffers View Post
          If it drops to the standard max level, does that mean I'd be better off with a defensive loadout that doesn't have confidence? Or would that lose all confidence entirely? (So this is two questions, really)
          I assume it would drop to 0 Confidence, but I have never tested it. Should be easy to test though.

          You're thinking maybe if you remove the power from your loadout then even if you get hit your Confidence will remain the same when you'll be back with Meekah and Confidence in your attack loadout?
          I assume that wouldn't work since I've never heard of it but idk.

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          • #6
            I understand how you see that but I disagree. Ive heard that argument many a time over the years. Yes, its advantageous to have your confidence general on defense, but I prefer a more solid defense. Its a preference of play. You dont need Meekah on defense at all. It depends on your preference of play. In the last 7 years, I have less than 4k losses in battle, whereas I was a punching bag in PvP. I rack up many more defensive wins than offensive in sum, based on how I play. My L1798 Warrior packs quite a punch with an L216 damage rune and is extremely hard to beat on defense, even if youre 1k levels higher than I am.. Its perfect for me and how I play. Not the strongest, not the weakest, but definitely works for me



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            • #7
              I dont worry about losing too often. Even on when you do, with a high reflection set up, folks choose softer targets. It works pretty good.

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              • #8
                When someone does any action on u, even a bounce, not having Meekah on your def loadout would drop Confidence to step 5, no matter how high u had taken it before.
                But thats a choice one makes.
                Depends the battle, nowadays we have lots of formats, each one's strategies vary.
                Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

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                • #9
                  These are typical of my defensive wins without Meekah in the defensive lineup. This was about 10 minutes ago. Thats why I say that you dont need Meekah in your defensive lineup. Everything matters. Your defensive stats, pierce and elemental resistance etc, of which Im sure that you know. Im not too mad at my defense without Meekah. My Warrior is pretty well optimized

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fadasmax View Post
                    When someone does any action on u, even a bounce, not having Meekah on your def loadout would drop Confidence to step 5, no matter how high u had taken it before.
                    But thats a choice one makes.
                    Depends the battle, nowadays we have lots of formats, each one's strategies vary.
                    Exactly. You get it. We all have our preferences and styles of play. After a decade plus now in the game, most of the vets pretty much have down what they want and are chasing. Im on year 11, I think?. Im just here for the popcorn, lol. Good evening to all of you other Castle Agers. Im Maxx Bladesmith in the game. Nice to meet everyone in here.

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                    • #11
                      We could say the same thing about Intimidate and DF, though less likely to occur, for sure. By now though, we know that the game is a balancing act. We have pierces/resistances that oppose and in game resistance battles within formula. Just about everything in the entire game with the exception of whirlwind, has a direct attack or defense oppositional nature that can be countered or neutralized. Its all about what you want to focus on. all the way down to the basics of stamina vs energy. Just depends on your build and how you prefer to play the game. Theres no such thing as a wrong build. You can have a less efficient build based on your goals. They can certainly be much less than optimal, but they are never wrong. I love mine and Im aware that it defies some conventional wisdom, but its been pretty well tested, and Im confident in it enough to share my strategies with others
                      Last edited by raggttop91; 07-06-2020, 09:21 PM.

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                      • #12
                        [QUOTE=raggttop91;n2747902]

                        In the above picture, thats damage they took with my confidence just at 50% max. No Meekah. It just depends on what you want to keep and what you want to throw out, Id say. I preferred the higher defense. All good stuff

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by raggttop91 View Post
                          I understand how you see that but I disagree. Ive heard that argument many a time over the years. Yes, its advantageous to have your confidence general on defense, but I prefer a more solid defense. Its a preference of play. You dont need Meekah on defense at all. It depends on your preference of play. In the last 7 years, I have less than 4k losses in battle, whereas I was a punching bag in PvP. I rack up many more defensive wins than offensive in sum, based on how I play. My L1798 Warrior packs quite a punch with an L216 damage rune and is extremely hard to beat on defense, even if youre 1k levels higher than I am.. Its perfect for me and how I play. Not the strongest, not the weakest, but definitely works for me
                          I was just answering to this thing you said: "My confidence builds on defensive wins even further"
                          Your Confidence can build much further if you have Meekah in your def loadout (which you don't), so this part was misleading IMO which is why I answered what I answered.

                          Of course I perfectly understand your choice to have better def generals in your loadout rather than Meekah, in order to win more defensive duels (if you lose, having Meekah in def usually won't help anyway).
                          Depending on who's on the other team, it may indeed be a better choice. It's all situational.

                          Personally my best def loadout is Dolomar-Meekah-Hera so I don't even have to choose anything lol (Dolo is here just for its stats, and will eventually be replaced by Oberon). I'm still relatively weak (and will never be very strong since I'm going high LSI).

                          I've played several times with/against you today btw :P
                          Last edited by gogoo; 07-06-2020, 09:44 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, I could build confidence higher on defense with Meekah, but after testing my defensive setup with Meekah, I started losing to folks that I shouldn't have, and wouldnt have with my best defense setup. Thats one of the reasons that this setup works best for me. My Meekah is solid but Id much rather keep Hera in there on defense. Yes, Im pretty active in the game, just not in forums much. Its nice meet you.

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                            • #15
                              Yes, you get it perfectly so ignore what I just typed, as its about the same thing you said, too. Great to meet you I have a penchant for reflection. I use Daphne/Tora/Hera as my Persephone is pretty weak and not worth adding. Did we catch up in Colosseum?

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