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  • #16
    Maybe your atk loadout items have gems that boost atk and/or def, so that would explain why.
    Your def loadout items may not have that, or that many gems.
    My response above was total def vs recipient's total atk - and selected alliance's stats matter.
    Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

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    • #17
      Okay, I just tested few things and maybe you guys are right, now I'm getting same results with defensive loadout too. Maybe you're right Fadasmax and I had some gems that was altering results. My apologies zserg

      However, I tested this major heal and as I thought it doesn't relate to guardian path at all. Here's an example of my test:

      At the start my caster has 687 guardian points as you see in the screenshot:



      Then he hits target and because target is stronger than caster, he gets minor heal which doesn't give us any points which is nothing new and he still has 687 guardian points:



      Then I change target's generals into weak general and hit it again, we get this result:



      It says that we healed our target with 285 points and heal effect was increased by 184 due to our high defense and health rune. We get 737 guardian points which is 50 gaining (737-687=50).

      After this I remove my current helmet and armor and replace them with different ones that don't have runes installed and then hit our target again. We get this result:



      As we see, it doesn't say anymore that because of our high defense and health rune effect was increased and we get 135 points for healing our target. However we get this result in guardian points - 787, which is again 50 gaining (787-737=50) & which is same result.

      After that I hit again same target with same equipment that I used previously but instead of healing I cast dispel on it. We get this result:

      https://imgur.com/rukZpk6

      837 guardian points. Again 50 points gain (837-787=50).

      Thus, we can come to conclusion that it doesn't matter if you use heal, dispel, guardian or any defensive ability on your target. You will still get the same result in guardian path. What matters is this small thing:

      https://imgur.com/iHSWTFn

      And when it says your healed your target with this and that points due to your high defense or health rune... It only affects actual healing, not guardian points.

      P.S. Due to forum restrictions I wasn't able to post 2 last links as images. Can admins change this, so we can post more images? Especially it doesn't take any storage from forum, I'm uploading them on another website. Shouldn't be a problem.
      Last edited by Ditendra; 06-26-2020, 07:12 AM.

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      • #18
        If you don't have health rune equipped, of course you won't get a bonus to the heal since the bonus is based on the value of the rune, but the calculation is the same, defense vs attack. And I've already mentioned that you can get guardian points for other actions in my first post, plus the wiki link I posted mentions it too.

        I'd disagree with major heal not being related at all to guardian path, because if you don't get a 'major' heal you don't get points. If your health rune is zero, your major heal will just get 0 bonus, as you've discovered...

        Me saying major heal was just saying that you need to win the reverse duel, the actual bonus amount whether it's 0 or 2000, is irrelevant yes.
        Last edited by zserg; 06-26-2020, 07:51 AM.
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        • #19
          Note that you can only resurrect a given target once for credit, but you can keep healing them and earning guardian points even if they are at max health.
          Last edited by King Hrothbeort; 06-26-2020, 10:20 AM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by zserg View Post
            If you don't have health rune equipped, of course you won't get a bonus to the heal since the bonus is based on the value of the rune, but the calculation is the same, defense vs attack. And I've already mentioned that you can get guardian points for other actions in my first post, plus the wiki link I posted mentions it too.

            I'd disagree with major heal not being related at all to guardian path, because if you don't get a 'major' heal you don't get points. If your health rune is zero, your major heal will just get 0 bonus, as you've discovered...

            Me saying major heal was just saying that you need to win the reverse duel, the actual bonus amount whether it's 0 or 2000, is irrelevant yes.
            with major heal I meant healing points that isn't related to guardian points, of course minor heal doesn't give you credits. I already mentioned that.

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            • #21
              Max out your conquest level by doing all 4: conquer, guard, hunt, engineer. Get all 4 to 4500 then turn in. Is much more productive when you have 20 bullets to spend.

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              • #22
                Thats a tough task there, ScardyKat.
                I've been trying just that for years, most of the times, synchronizing all 4 to mithril is just not possible.
                But thats another matter for another topic.
                Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

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                • #23
                  Thanks to all you guys, That solved most of my Questions.

                  zserg / Fadasmax- As you guys have already advised resistance and pierce dont matter and only Defense (of attacker) and Attack (of defender) count. Does this only count the raw stats or also those additional gained from Archives and runnes?

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                  • #24
                    As i said, everything. Alliance's + items stats too.
                    Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

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