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The diminishing return on land purchases. When to stop buying?

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  • The diminishing return on land purchases. When to stop buying?

    I don't think this is something that many old players put a lot of thought into because gold isn't an issue for most of us, but I'm reaching a point where I'm not sure if buying lands makes sense financially anymore.

    I'm currently holding 1280 copies of each land. In order to purchase another 10 copies, it will cost me 246 billion gold in order to increase my hourly income by 11.7 million. This translates to about 280 million per day. That means it will take 873 days just to cover the cost of the 246 billion investment or about 2.3 years.

    Has anyone else come to this realization or abandon land purchasing? If not, how many copies of each land do you own? I'm curious to see how much CA's most successful land baron has been able to acquire. Post your holdings!
    Last edited by pull lead; 04-20-2020, 04:41 PM. Reason: Bad initial math

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    I had been thinking about that as well. I'm currently holding the max possible amount for me, 1460 lands.

    I haven't actually put any thought into it however, simply because I have more than enough Gold so it doesn't matter whether I keep buying the lands or not...

    Currently at 41.38T Gold.
    Until recently I was buying the item for Gold in the Mystic Emporium every day, and along with buying Lands every 10 levels or so that meant I was pretty much stagnating around 40T Gold. So I am / was indeed spending a lot of Gold, and it's probably not actually worth it but it's not like Gold is actually worth anything when you have so much to begin with so eh 🤷‍♂️
    Last edited by gogoo; 04-20-2020, 05:40 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pull lead View Post
      I don't think this is something that many old players put a lot of thought into because gold isn't an issue for most of us, but I'm reaching a point where I'm not sure if buying lands makes sense financially anymore.

      I'm currently holding 1280 copies of each land. In order to purchase another 10 copies, it will cost me 246 billion gold in order to increase my hourly income by 11.7 million. This translates to about 280 million per day. That means it will take 873 days just to cover the cost of the 246 billion investment or about 2.3 years.

      Has anyone else come to this realization or abandon land purchasing? If not, how many copies of each land do you own? I'm curious to see how much CA's most successful land baron has been able to acquire. Post your holdings!
      I'm confused.

      How much gold do you earn per hour?
      I mean, I'm at level 1150.
      I earn ~$1.35B/hr.
      For me, that equates to ~$32B/day.

      You earn more per hour than I do, so you should be able to recoup the spent Gold in less than 8 days. At which point you'll be where you were before buying lands and spending the Gold, and then will be profiting Gold until your next land purchases.

      Maybe my simple brain is missing something though. Wouldn't be the 1st time...
      Last edited by fosio; 04-20-2020, 08:00 PM.

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      • #4
        Majority has so much gold, they dont even think about it plus more so when they notice their bank total increasing over time, instead of decreasing.
        I guess it really depends on whether one levels up so fast, like 10 times a day, where every day they buy 10 of each land, maybe then they'll see their bank total diminishing.
        Last edited by Fadasmax; 04-21-2020, 08:22 AM.
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        • #5
          I did actually give it some thought at some point, not because I was worried, more for fun (maths etc. )

          Made a spreadsheet back then

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fosio View Post

            I'm confused.

            How much gold do you earn per hour?
            I mean, I'm at level 1150.
            I earn ~$1.35B/hr.
            For me, that equates to ~$32B/day.

            You earn more per hour than I do, so you should be able to recoup the spent Gold in less than 8 days. At which point you'll be where you were before buying lands and spending the Gold, and then will be profiting Gold until your next land purchases.

            Maybe my simple brain is missing something though. Wouldn't be the 1st time...
            You do recover the gold you've spent fairly fast. The comparison is between how much gold you have X days after purchasing new lands, and how much you would have had at the same time if you hadn't purchased them. And it can take years to make up that difference yes
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            • #7
              Originally posted by zserg View Post

              You do recover the gold you've spent fairly fast. The comparison is between how much gold you have X days after purchasing new lands, and how much you would have had at the same time if you hadn't purchased them. And it can take years to make up that difference yes
              That's definitely the interesting bit.
              I have a feeling if I stopped buying Lands right now, I'd probably have more Gold for the next 10 years than if I kept buying them. I may be completely off, but I do think it would take a very long time for the "keep buying lands" strategy to actually pay off (once you already have 1000+ lands).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by gogoo View Post

                That's definitely the interesting bit.
                I have a feeling if I stopped buying Lands right now, I'd probably have more Gold for the next 10 years than if I kept buying them. I may be completely off, but I do think it would take a very long time for the "keep buying lands" strategy to actually pay off (once you already have 1000+ lands).
                Yea, that’s the premise of the topic. In my case, at 1280 lands it would take 2.3 years to finally start making profit on my land purchase.

                I too stopped buying lumber and wood.
                Last edited by pull lead; 04-21-2020, 11:31 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pull lead View Post

                  Yea, that’s the premise of the topic. In my case, at 1280 lands it would take 2.3 years to finally start making profit on my land purchase.
                  Oh right indeed that's exactly what you wrote, I misread that somehow and thought you meant something else...

                  2.3 years then. Well. I've been playing for around 10 years, I'd say the investment is still worth it at that point 😁 But either way, I think Land players will simply never have to worry about Gold anyway (because if they do, Territories players may as well quit then 😛 ).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gogoo View Post

                    Oh right indeed that's exactly what you wrote, I misread that somehow and thought you meant something else...

                    2.3 years then. Well. I've been playing for around 10 years, I'd say the investment is still worth it at that point 😁 But either way, I think Land players will simply never have to worry about Gold anyway (because if they do, Territories players may as well quit then 😛 ).
                    I’m still planning to continue buying, but I have to admit I’m reaching the point where I might soon consider stopping.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pull lead View Post

                      I’m still planning to continue buying, but I have to admit I’m reaching the point where I might soon consider stopping.
                      I think gold would never be an issue after a while, most oldies would have more than 10-20T now, if they have done all the quests faithfully, farmed monsters regularly and played a bit.

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                      • #12
                        where is find cash flow upkeep etc section
                        i dont have

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mahmutcagatay View Post
                          where is find cash flow upkeep etc section
                          i dont have
                          Maybe it's only for players with Lands and not Territories. Since 2014 all new players have Territories instead of Lands.
                          For instance I have this when I got to my Lands:

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                          • #14
                            I have about 50T saved and just use whatever is on hand to buy lands as I level. If I have to wait a day or 2 no biggie. Just something to do, do not expect to ever need 50T.

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                            • #15
                              I have 100T saved, and 12T on hand. Plus I still got a lot of extra lands I could sell for more gold from back when lands would drop from monsters.
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