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Old 12-28-2010, 02:02 AM
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Default Why are auto matches are so unbalanced?

I'm getting fed up with my guild being matched against guilds ten times our size. This last battle we didn't even get to enter the battle before it was over. Why can't CA match us to same size guilds?
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:05 AM
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that's because no guild equivalent to your size hasn't opted at that moment

autobattles match guild who opted to to automatch in that moment
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:06 AM
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cos then the guild of 39 currently decimating my guild of 84 would have their battles over in 30 mins? In our defense, almost all of them r over lvl 400 & none of ours have hit 500 yet :S Must admit, the lvl 509 I'm nibbling on (nibbling cos we're almost all stunned now lol) is VERY tasty tho, especially as I'm lv 166 <evil kitteh grin>
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< sigh > This question has been asked and answered countless times.

The auto match feature is dependent on guilds that consciously opt to participate in battle. Would you be happy if CA put your guild in an indefinite holding pattern until an exact match is found? When you opt in there are a limited number of other guilds available for the auto match - those that have also opted in. Because of the limited number of guilds available at any given time you are sometimes matched up with the best match available at the time you opted in.

How exactly do you want CA to fix this particular problem?
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:12 AM
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There are a heck of a lot of guilds out there, and they aren't all big. Surely the programming could do better. I wouldn't mind if they took an hour - if we got a fair battle instead of something over in minutes. Especially as they don't seem to support any other guild battles anymore.
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There are a heck of a lot of guilds out there, and they aren't all big. Surely the programming could do better. I wouldn't mind if they took an hour - if we got a fair battle instead of something over in minutes. Especially as they don't seem to support any other guild battles anymore.
a lot of guilds don't participate in the autobattles, so you're bound to wait more than 1 hour if you're not lucky
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Waiting an hour would be horrible. Your guild would never know when the battle was initiated and you'd have to check every couple of minutes. Despite what you say I believe you would find this untenable as well. I suspect a good portion of your guild would check for the first 15 minutes and then give up.

I don't believe you have offered a viable solution.
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:44 AM
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There are 2 things that determine matchups on guild battles.

1) Guild Rank
2) Guild Size


If your guild is ranked in the top 5% and no other small guild that opted in is, then you are going to be matched with a large guild in the top 5%. The reason for this is because there are (believe it or not) small guilds in CA that can easily take down larger guilds. These guilds would not have much fun if they were constantly being matched with small, weaker guilds.
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My guild is in the 40 to 60% range. That should not be rare. My suggestion of waiting longer may not be ideal; but, it can't be worse than the present situation. As it is we never get a balanced battle. The closest ones are twice our size, but most are five to twelve times our size. I don't mind losing if we at least have a chance and a long fight; but, we usually don't. As I said, the last battle was over before anyone on our side could even join. What's the point? Then we have to wait a day for another try.

How about a cut off of four times our size? Would that work? It should be easy to program.

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My guild is in the 40 to 60% range. That should not be rare. My suggestion of waiting longer may not be ideal; but, it can't be worse than the present situation. As it is we never get a balanced battle. The closest ones are twice our size, but most are five to twelve times our size. I don't mind losing if we at least have a chance and a long fight; but, we usually don't. As I said, the last battle was over before anyone on our side could even join. What's the point? Then we have to wait a day for another try.

How about a cut off of four times our size? Would that work? It should be easy to program.
How is it "easy to program"? If a guild that meet the criteria that you specified above doesn't opt in within 6 hours of when you do ... what then? How can the CA developers possibly code for the pure randomness of when and if guild chose to opt in? And yes I do believe elongating the wait time is worse, certainly for our guild. We are quite pleased when we get a bigger/powerful guild. The solution to your problem is to increase the size of your guild - it isn't really any different than the ability of people with 501+ armies to invade people with much smaller armies in the battle list.
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