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    HELP WANTED

    We need help to verify wether the "monster points theory" is right or not.

    I thought we could start with Lothorewyn, an easy monster which many guilds get, multiplying data for the study.

    Maximum monster points are 45.000.

    Please post here you monster damage, the points awarded and the loot obtained (just amount of legendary and epics)

    Most interesting data will be that between 14,000,000 and 19,980,000.

    POINTS ---- LOOT ----------- DAMAGE
    Not interesting if over 18,138,560 AND got legendary.
    45.000 --- 1 Leg, 2 Epic ---- 18.138.935
    Interesting damage
    42.500 --- 1 Leg, 2 Epic ---- 17.075.618
    35.000 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ---- 14.421.958
    35.000 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ---- 14.160.174
    30.000 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ---- 11.658.716
    27.500 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ---- 10.908.289
    27.500 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ---- 10.738.085
    25.500 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ---- 10.908.289
    25.000 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ----- 9.848.685
    25.000 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ----- 9.781.085
    22.500 --- ? Leg, ? Epic ----- 9.083.868
    Last edited by Barathor; 06-12-2019 at 01:22 PM.

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    I had started collecting data, and your thread made me want to post my current results

    I don't have any on Lothorewyn, so I posted it on my original thread, but I think it's worth mentioning it on this thread nonetheless (also people can check this other thread for more info on the theory):

    http://www.castleageforums.com/cforu...77#post3036077

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    With data from my guild I have narrowed down a lot the "allegedly" 100% threshold for legendary in Lothorewyn.

    Please provide data, specially between 18,138,560 (45,000 points) and 17,075,618 (42,500 points)

    My bet is that 17,100,000 or really close award 45,000 and thus this would become 100% sure for 1 legendary drop.
    This might not seem exciting at all, but if the method works, imagine never becoming short again against any given monster
    Last edited by Barathor; 06-12-2019 at 01:25 PM.

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    I was able to close the gap even more:

    17.110.190 - 45.000 _ 1 Leg, 2 Epic (No energy spent)
    17.075.618 - 42.500 _ 1 Leg, 2 Epic (Maybe energy included)

    I expect to receive this week results around 17.090.000 - 17.105.000.
    Threshold based on the spreadsheet points towards 17.010.000 so this method seems to provide results so close that could potentially be taken as 100% trustworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barathor View Post
    I was able to close the gap even more:

    17.110.190 - 45.000 _ 1 Leg, 2 Epic (No energy spent)
    17.075.618 - 42.500 _ 1 Leg, 2 Epic (Maybe energy included)

    I expect to receive this week results around 17.090.000 - 17.105.000.
    👍👍👍

    Quote Originally Posted by Barathor View Post
    Threshold based on the spreadsheet points towards 17.010.000 so this method seems to provide results so close that could potentially be taken as 100% trustworthy.
    My thought too

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    Just a question, wouldnt roughly 300 stamina (enough for 2 essence) yield at least 22m dmg (around 30m if level 80 , 6 star barbarus) or are you all looking at 150 stamina, 17m dmg ?
    Last edited by baoyutaohuagong; 08-20-2019 at 01:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baoyutaohuagong View Post
    Just a question, wouldnt roughly 300 stamina (enough for 2 essence) yield at least 22m dmg (around 30m if level 80 , 6 star barbarus) or are you all looking at 150 stamina, 17m dmg ?
    We need to know exactly the amount that changes the award in points from 42.500 to 45.00, which is somewhere between 17.075.618 (42.500) and 17.110.190 (45.000), better with no energy spent to be sure.

    Anything below won't be useful to our theory and the same happens for amounts above UNLESS they don't drop a legendary.
    Anyone getting 45.000 points and no legendary would automatically refute the theory. That would be nice to know too.

    Edit: my testing group is pursuing another goals right now, but we'll be back to this.
    Last edited by Barathor; 08-22-2019 at 12:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barathor View Post
    We need to know exactly the amount that changes the award in points from 42.500 to 45.00, which is somewhere between 17.075.618 (42.500) and 17.110.190 (45.000), better with no energy spent to be sure.

    Anything below won't be useful to our theory and the same happens for amounts above UNLESS they don't drop a legendary.
    Anyone getting 45.000 points and no legendary would automatically refute the theory. That would be nice to know too.

    Edit: my testing group is pursuing another goals right now, but we'll be back to this.
    didnt really see lother for 2 years.
    Will try it out next time i see it.

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