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    Default Which Treasure Chests give the best IA bonuses?

    Summary:


    1st place:

    The Oblivion and Onslaught Chests.
    They're from far the best chests for Item Archives bonus (Oblivion for Defense and Onslaught for Attack).
    All the non-hero common and uncommon items give +4 atk/def each.


    2nd place:

    The Vanguard Chest.
    It's also a great Chest. All of its non-hero common and uncommon items give IA bonus, but "only" +3 def each, which is why Oblivion and Onslaught are better.


    3rd place:

    The Nightfall Chest.
    Even though its non-hero items give "only" +2.5 atk/each on average, all items (including heroes) in this chest provide IA bonus.


    Not so great chests:

    - The Alpha Chest non-hero items only provide +2 atk each. In addition, only 6 of its 10 equipment + soldiers are interesting as the 4 others can be acquired through Monster hunting.
    - The Annihilator Chest non-hero items provide +4 atk each, however only 6 out of 22 give IA bonus. So on average, we could say those 22 items give only +1.09 atk each.


    Almost useless chests:

    - The Reckoning Chest. Only 7 of its 24 non-hero items bring IA bonus. And 3 of them are Rare pulls.
    - The Corruption Chest. Only Rare and Epic pulls give IA bonus. And not that much to get.


    Completely useless chests:

    The Battlelust, Ascension, Phoenix, Wrath and Conquest Chests give each a total of +0 to +35 def/atk.


    Notes:
    - Some bonus points are missing as there are certain Sets in certain Archives which require Heroes from several different Treasure Chests (or Favor Generals and equips, or limited time items), and I didn't count those sets. However they bring very few points anyway.
    - It's probably best to focus on 1 Chest rather than several different, as you will end up getting the Sets bonuses if you focus on 1 single chest.




    All Chests ordered by max possible bonus:

    Oblivion TC
    TOTAL: +903 Defense
    All 16 equipment + soldiers of the Oblivion Chest bring IA bonus
    => +4 def each

    Onslaught TC
    TOTAL: +602 Attack & +11 Defense
    All 9 equipment + soldiers of the Onslaught Chest bring IA bonus
    => +4 atk each

    Vanguard TC
    TOTAL: +520 Defense & +23 Attack
    All 11 equipment + soldiers of the Vanguard Chest bring IA bonus
    => +3 def each

    Annihilator TC
    TOTAL: +408 Attack
    Only 6 of the 14 equipment + soldiers of the Annihilator Chest bring IA bonus
    => +4 atk each

    Nightfall TC
    TOTAL: +401 Attack
    All 20 items of the Nightfall Chest bring IA bonus (6 soldiers & 14 heroes)
    => on avg +2.5 atk each for the 6 soldiers

    Alpha TC
    TOTAL: +275 Attack
    Only 6 of the 10 equipment + soldiers of the Alpha Chest which bring IA bonus can be obtained exclusively through the Chest
    => +2 atk each

    Reckoning TC
    TOTAL: +263 Attack
    Only 7 of the 24 equipment + soldiers of the Reckoning Chest bring IA bonus

    Corruption TC
    TOTAL: +94 Attack & +47 Def
    No common or uncommon item from the Corruption Chest bring IA bonus

    Battlelust TC
    TOTAL: +11 Attack & +24 Defense

    Ascension TC
    TOTAL: +12 Attack & +9 Defense

    Phoenix TC
    TOTAL: +10 Defense

    Wrath TC
    TOTAL: +0

    Conquest TC
    TOTAL: +0



    For more info about Item Archives bonuses, see this thread:
    All Item Archives (IA) bonuses
    Last edited by gogoo; 04-14-2019 at 05:19 PM.

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    Default Each Treasure Chest detailed

    Alpha TC
    TOTAL: +275 Attack

    6 non-hero items:
    +120 atk
    Each items gives: +2 atk
    For max bonus: 10 of each item required, for a total of 60 items for max bonus
    All 10 equipment + soldiers of the Alpha Chest bring IA bonus, but 4 of them can also be obtained through Monster Hunting, so only 6 are counted here.
    Heroes (4):
    +29 atk
    SETS:
    +126 Atk requiring Alpha TC items or heroes

    Vanguard TC
    TOTAL: +520 Defense & +23 Attack

    11 non-hero items:
    +330 Def
    Each item gives: +3 def
    For max bonus: 10 of each item required, for a total of 110 items for max bonus
    All 11 equipment + soldiers of the Vanguard Chest bring IA bonus
    Heroes (3):
    +18 atk & +5 def
    SETS:
    +185 Def requiring Vanguard TC items or heroes
    +5 Atk requiring Vanguard TC items or heroes

    Onslaught TC
    TOTAL: +602 Attack
    & +11 Defense
    9 non-hero items:
    +360 atk
    Each item gives: +4 atk
    For max bonus: 10 of each item required, for a total of 90 items for max bonus
    All 9 equipment + soldiers of the Onslaught Chest bring IA bonus
    Heroes (2):
    +11 def & +12 atk
    SETS:
    +230 Atk requiring Onslaught TC items or heroes

    Oblivion TC
    TOTAL: +903 Defense

    16 non-hero items:
    +768 def
    Each item gives: +4 def
    For max bonus: 12 of each item required, for a total of 192 items for max bonus
    All 16 equipment + soldiers of the Oblivion Chest bring IA bonus
    Heroes (1):
    + 10 def
    SETS:
    +125 Def requiring Oblivion TC heroes

    Annihilator TC
    TOTAL: + 408 Attack

    6 non-hero items:
    +288 atk
    Each item gives: +4 atk
    For max bonus: 12 of each item required, for a total of 72 items for max bonus
    Only 6 of the 14 equipment + soldiers of the Annihilator Chest bring IA bonus (4 more if you count those part of sets though)
    And if we count the 8 Class Power items, there are only 6 out of 22 non-hero items which bring IA bonus
    Heroes (0):
    + 0
    SETS:
    +120 Atk requiring Annihilator TC items or heroes

    Ascension TC
    TOTAL: +12 Attack & +9 Defense

    0 non-hero items
    Heroes (2):
    +12 atk & +9 def
    SETS:
    +0

    Wrath TC
    TOTAL: +0

    0 items or heroes

    Conquest TC
    TOTAL: +0

    0 items or heroes

    Phoenix TC
    TOTAL: +10 Defense

    0 non-hero items
    Heroes (1):
    +10 def
    SETS:
    +0

    Battlelust TC
    TOTAL: +11 Attack & +24 Defense

    0 non-hero items
    Heroes (2):
    +12 def & +11 atk
    SETS:
    +12 Def

    Corruption TC
    TOTAL: +94 Attack & +47 Def

    2 items (Rare pulls):
    +36 def +30 atk
    Each item gives: +6 atk/def, and a total of 11 items are needed for max bonus
    Heroes (the 4 Epic):
    +11 def
    +32 atk
    SETS:
    +32 atk

    Reckoning TC
    TOTAL: +263 Attack

    7 non-hero items (2 Common, 2 Uncommon and 3 Rare pulls):
    +176 atk
    For max bonus: 38 total items required
    Only 7 of the 24 equipment + soldiers of the Reckoning Chest bring IA bonus
    Heroes (the 4 Epic):
    +48 atk
    SETS:
    +39 atk requiring Reckoning TC items or heroes

    Nightfall TC
    TOTAL: +401 Attack

    6 non-hero items:
    +132 atk
    For max bonus: 53 total items required (on average each item gives +2.5 atk)
    All 20 items of the Nightfall Chest bring IA bonus (6 soldiers & 14 heroes)
    Heroes (14):
    +99 atk
    SETS:
    +170 atk requiring Nightfall TC items or heroes
    Last edited by gogoo; 04-14-2019 at 05:14 PM.

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    This is something people should take always in mind. This info, I mean.
    The question about "which chest should I buy" raises from time to time and this is a methodical approach to a math-based answer. I like it.

    Now, player's only need to ponder how much they need a specific piece of gear or general and see if it makes sense to fight the odds or go for best plain simple ratio roll/bonus.
    Last edited by Barathor; 04-15-2019 at 02:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barathor View Post
    Now, player's only need to ponder how much they need a specific piece of gear or general and see if it makes sense to fight the odds or go for best plain simple ratio roll/bonus.
    Yep

    For instance, even if you're only interested in Malekus in the Vanguard Chest, I suppose rolling it anyway is not a bad idea as you can get a lot of IA bonus in the process.

    Personally I'm "lucky" that the heroes I'm interested in are mostly in the Oblivion and Nightfall chest.


    But because of IA I think I'm never going to roll the Corruption chest even though Jera is interesting.

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