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Dovahkiin
04-10-2012, 02:43 PM
A guildmate mentioned that he saw a post saying that guilds can battle others more than once a day.
Also through random reading around for CA, I recall reading something about this aswell though it could be my mind playing tricks again for related searches haha.

Is it really possible to set multiple guild battles per day?
Thanks for your time

Mursilis
04-10-2012, 03:31 PM
Yes. First you have the festival battle, that happens once per day. Then there are your normal guild war battles. These last for 5 hours and 12 hours after it ends, you can start another one.

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 03:59 PM
Thats only on facebook though if u only play on iphone u cant have more then 1 battle a day.if u have a facebook account u can log into app and do a 3 hr battle through app but u and whoever is in your guild that is facebook connected will be able to battle

Dovahkiin
04-10-2012, 05:04 PM
Yes, my guild is currently doing 1 set time festival battle.
More than half of us can't attend the guild battles due to the time and switching it up doesn't seem to help enough.
We're planning on finding out a way to add another guild battle to the schedule so that everyone can be happy.

So I can do normal guild battles to add onto festival per day?
Also rob, when you mentioned thats FB only, do you mean the normal guild battles?

Only on mobile here and sorry a bit confused :p

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 05:34 PM
Right. You only have access to the normal Guild Battles on the app if you log in with a Facebook account. iOS accounts only have Festival Battles, which is really odd considering they don't have any other access to the Festival.

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Actually if u login to app with a facebook account there is the countdown timer for the festival battle then if u goto the guild tab and go into optiins scroll down and there will be an option for guild battle 3-hr facebook

If u login to app with iphone account u will not have the option in the options page.u can only do 1 battle a day when u are only using iphone for app

So to answer your follow up question dova NO IPHONERS CAN ONLY DO FESTIVAL BATTLE WHICH IS THE COUNTDOWN TIMER ON THE MAIN PAGE.

If u have an officer who is in your iphone guild he can intiate a 3hr battle but iphoners can't get into battle.
Also they can summon guild monster on facebook but yet again iphoners cant attack only the facebook connected accounts can.

Hope this helps answer question

llXxRENNICORxXll
04-10-2012, 06:53 PM
Once your guild war ends and tge collect timers disappears go into your guild page. Then go to the battles tab. Now you'll see your countdown timer for the next guild war and a gear next to it marked "edit" Click it and readjust your start time. The battles always start at the same time daily. For me I'm Central Standard Time so my start times are 5am, 11am, 5pm 11pm.

We only have guild wars (festival events) until Phoenix Age updates us to a more current version of CA Facebook.

llXxRENNICORxXll
04-10-2012, 06:56 PM
My guild does 3-4 wars daily so yes it works

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 07:00 PM
Wait. 3 or 4 Festival Battles daily? Somehow that seems shady, but may be worth investigating further.

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 07:09 PM
Oh really so they dont have the 24 hr till next battle thing like facebook.

I know on facebook when u change the battle time u cant do next battle for 24hrs.didnt realize i could just change the time and do 4 a day.

Cheers and thanks.i will definetly try it

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 07:20 PM
@version someone did say in another posting about iphone guilds havong there own rankings and if everyone new im sure the guilds that have 140 battles probably would have about 400 battles instead(another reason for the news tab i requested in a problem report)
The news thing im talking about is like feed but devs post updates to it instead of news before u launch app have new in app they update regulary

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 07:25 PM
Hmmm... Im wondering if I can have an extra FB for my guild every day or not. We started on FB, but a few of us have the app. Insight have to give it a try one day. Worst case scenario, we miss a day's battle.

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 07:32 PM
Versions what guild u in on iphone
Im guild master unholy 2 we are 22-0 almost to alpha status

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 07:57 PM
~VoV~ for both my FB & iOS accounts. Not sure it shows up on the mobile guild list since its a FB guild. But I'm probably gonna have to pull my iOS account out of the guild, since I can't access the Conquest stuff with it.

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 08:13 PM
What level is ios maybe u could come join us... We are iohone guild i also have facebook guild unholy alliance lol :)

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Lvl 72 I think? I doubt I'll worry about guild stuff much on the iOS. Not until more of the game is added to the app at least.

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 08:39 PM
Also if the Devs ever say having both a FB and iOS account isn't legal, then I'll drop the iOS completely.

Dovahkiin
04-10-2012, 10:57 PM
Thanks for clearing everything up everyone!

Nooow... that post about doing multiple festival battles per day.. LOL
I'm pretty sure its a glitch if it were allowed. Now I wonder if its a bannable offense or not?

My guild has been getting more and more FB alts after mentioning a few days ago. Now all active mobile guildies are adding their FB into the guild to do twice battling in our daily guild battles.

Hearing about triggering normal battles through FB sounds nice too since FB can join in both battles. Splitting the guild in half would hurt a bit though. I'll tell my guild about this!

Also VoV, I read around that the mobile versions allows multi-account.
Then went to search more and saw that Facebook doesn't allow multi-accounts.
I'm pretty sure we can have 1 mobile and 1 facebook, I think haha

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 11:08 PM
That's my interpretation as well, plus a MySpace account. A different account for each platform should be legal.

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 11:09 PM
Yah i think that as well if u have a facebook they dont have u login andbit starts an new account when u use app so its like they wanted newbies or they are getting rid of facebook all together ....

Who knows im sure they dont

robtrygar
04-10-2012, 11:12 PM
Not like they came out and said it but from what ive seen it looks like they are tring to abadon facebook and start fresh but evertone complains about what they dont have on facebook in iphone app

Maybe give them some time and see what happens
I like playing ca i quit all other apps on facebook because of the request and sending crap to people... Maybe the way they are going about things is the right way

Especially since u start at level 0

Only issue i see is the facebooks comming into app and killing us all off

VersionsOfViolence
04-10-2012, 11:25 PM
I really don't expect CA to abandon their Facebook roots. The platform is still far too popular.

llXxRENNICORxXll
04-11-2012, 01:22 PM
Dova it's not a glitch lol.. It's not bannable. All you do is just move your start time ahead to the next war time. Very easy. They stagger war times and a new war starts every 6 hours. Once your war ends just move your war start time to the next war. Obviously max is 4 daily.

llXxRENNICORxXll
04-11-2012, 01:36 PM
As far as fb compared to ios.. The largest draws for ios games are mmorpg like CA. Kingdoms at War draws huge money and is a free app that people invest big money to upgrade accounts. I've personally invested over 5-6k into A Thinking Ape games and they all are just like Castle Age. Yes 5-6k no exaggeration and many others invested much more than me. Phoenix Age sees the potential and CA wont ever be abandoned for ios if anything they'll find a better way for fb and iOS to integrate.

Dovahkiin
04-18-2012, 02:34 AM
By the way VoV and roby, did you two try out llXxRENNICORxXll advice for multiple guild battles yet?

I've discussed it with my guild and one of the officers is interested in trying it out now. Its still a while until our next guild battle and we don't want to risk missing a day of fighting if others already have the knowledge of it.

Confirmation please!

VersionsOfViolence
04-18-2012, 02:44 AM
I haven't. I even dropped my iOS account from my guild and joined another. I don't think they know wtf they're doing, but I don't want the hassles of running 2 accounts full force anyway.

robtrygar
04-19-2012, 04:49 AM
@dova yes it is possinle to do mulitple battles a day with iphone guild
1) set time
2) do battle
3) collect timer expires
4) goto guild/battle tab push sprocket to change battle time to next time in list
5) time arrives do battle
6) collect timer expires
7) goto guild/battle tab change time to next timd usually be 3hrs after 1 1/2hr collection so every 4 1/2hrs u can battle
8) repeat steps

Makes it so u can do 4 battles

Even if u loose battles u gain coins :)
Unless u care about rankings... I believe after we loose to steelers gonna be 41-7 after tonight

Dovahkiin
04-19-2012, 04:57 AM
Thats so awesome Roby!!
I can finally sleep again... I'm happy LOL

We were planning to do a test this Saturday but now we can start earlier.
So much win. It won't take months just to get resurrect haha

VersionsOfViolence
04-19-2012, 05:52 AM
I still need to check to see if it works for FB guilds gone mobile...

VersionsOfViolence
04-19-2012, 06:17 AM
Just changed our FB time, and it looks like we're just under 4 hours til go time.

4 Festival Battles a day could be quite interesting.

Dovahkiin
04-19-2012, 07:00 AM
Just changed our FB time, and it looks like we're just under 4 hours til go time.

4 Festival Battles a day could be quite interesting.

Thats great to hear! Theres a growing amount of active fb users in my guild thats been holding back on regular guild battles.
Now we all don't need to worry about the insanely slow token grind and can finally buy some aside from level 1 resistance haha!

Really happy and can definitely attend 2 battles with no problems and have my full night of sleep again C:

VersionsOfViolence
04-19-2012, 07:14 AM
Now I just need to make sure I have enough officers that are app users to change the times after each battle. This oughtta be fun.

Brother Phil
04-19-2012, 01:46 PM
i don't know how my guild does it but we have a lot of battles in a day.... not sure how it all works though.

Tera Castle Age
06-06-2012, 06:53 AM
I posted this and got the included answer.

Originally Posted by Tera Castle Age View Post
I change my ios created guild battle time four times a day without any 24 hour delay. Is this not the case if the guild was created in fb? Can I change the time of a fb created guild using my iPhone without the 24 hour crap?

RESPONCE
Since the time gap is there to stop exploits and is nothing to do with the device, I'd assume not. If you can, it's a glitch.

Tera Castle Age
06-06-2012, 06:55 AM
I guess if guild was created in ios, you can battle four times per day by changing the battle timer. If guild was created in facebook, you can only battle once a day. When you change the time, you can not battle for 24 hours.

Tera Castle Age
06-06-2012, 07:08 AM
Just changed our FB time, and it looks like we're just under 4 hours til go time.

4 Festival Battles a day could be quite interesting.


It lies!!! :eek: It will look like a battle is set and counting down, but when the timer reaches 0:00 it will reset and show 23:59. That is for a facebook created guild played on IOS. A IOS created guild will really go into battle when you change the timer after each battle/collection time.

1351F4
06-06-2012, 01:23 PM
I run an IPhone guild & we have been battling 4 times a day for a long time. Need too to if I want to get enough guild coins to buy expensive class powers. I just change the time after every battle.

deathtalons2
06-06-2012, 03:10 PM
we have 2 guild battles per day during the week and 3 during the weekends

ShadowBear
06-06-2012, 06:31 PM
We are a 4 x a day gb guild. Sounds like this is one of the very few (possibly only) advantage of iOS over fb.

CastleAgeBrock
06-06-2012, 08:08 PM
We are a 4 x a day gb guild. Sounds like this is one of the very few (possibly only) advantage of iOS over fb.

It's not even really an advantage. On FB you could have two five-hour battles, plus your one-hour Festival battle. That's 11 hours of total GB fun (though if you max out the 5 hours, you won't be able to do it exactly twice a day... but it would still be like 10 or 12 five-hour battles per week).

The only "advantage" it gives to iOS guilds is that you could have a worldwide guild roster and everyone would be able to fight in one or two battles a day, no matter what.

Tera Castle Age
06-06-2012, 08:37 PM
I posted this and got the included answer.

Originally Posted by Tera Castle Age View Post
I change my ios created guild battle time four times a day without any 24 hour delay. Is this not the case if the guild was created in fb? Can I change the time of a fb created guild using my iPhone without the 24 hour crap?

RESPONCE
Since the time gap is there to stop exploits and is nothing to do with the device, I'd assume not. If you can, it's a glitch.


This is from the facebook forums. They sound like they think we are cheating (exploiting) a glitch.?

ShadowBear
06-07-2012, 01:06 AM
It's not even really an advantage. On FB you could have two five-hour battles, plus your one-hour Festival battle. That's 11 hours of total GB fun (though if you max out the 5 hours, you won't be able to do it exactly twice a day... but it would still be like 10 or 12 five-hour battles per week).

The only "advantage" it gives to iOS guilds is that you could have a worldwide guild roster and everyone would be able to fight in one or two battles a day, no matter what.

Ok that is fine, I stand corrected. There are actually no advantages to IOS over FB. Thanks for confirming IOS version is completely sub par. ;)

Lord Tyrin
02-03-2013, 04:22 AM
Hi guys, Ive more recently started playing CA on Facebook, having found it via the iPhone first. Love the game, but for some reason there are certain bugs to work out. For one, I wasnt able to join the guild that my iphone accounts are a part of, so I instead started a guild earlier today. When I went to the guild battle tab and tried to initiate the first battle, however, there was a button that said "Initiate battle", and to the left it says that the guild master or officer has to set the auto-match. So I click Initiate battle, and it comes up with a message saying check the current battles page in the next few minutes for the next battle. Nothing has shown up, though- timer or battle. I need help in knowing what to do. Am I missing a step, or is this yet another stupid glitch/bug?

xxBEOWULFxx (Slayers-iOS)
02-03-2013, 10:10 PM
It's not even really an advantage. On FB you could have two five-hour battles, plus your one-hour Festival battle. That's 11 hours of total GB fun (though if you max out the 5 hours, you won't be able to do it exactly twice a day... but it would still be like 10 or 12 five-hour battles per week).

The only "advantage" it gives to iOS guilds is that you could have a worldwide guild roster and everyone would be able to fight in one or two battles a day, no matter what.

iOS guilds (guild created with an iOS account) can have up to 4 (2hr) festi battles in a 24hr period. As soon as the collection period is over. We can reset the time and have another 2hr battle at the next 6 hr time slot. Not a glitch.
And we can initiate the regular 5hr guild battles. Which when maxed out with collection time is a 14hr cycle.

So iOS guilds can battle a total of 13hrs per day. PLUS... The likelyhood of a Facebook battle running short which would give us another 5hrs on those days.

iOS = 18hrs battle time / day (2x 5hr guild battle)
FB = 11hrs battle time / day (2x 5hr guild battle)

Advantage ... iOS. :)

I've tested this by making a guild on the app with my Facebook character.
FB can reset their festi clock but it still only allows 1 festi battle per day. When the timer runs down and the guild has already participated in a battle for that day, then the timer resets to 24hrs as soon as the next battle should start.

xxBEOWULFxx (Slayers-iOS)
02-04-2013, 01:35 PM
iOS guilds (guild created with an iOS account) can have up to 4 (2hr) festi battles in a 24hr period. As soon as the collection period is over. We can reset the time and have another 2hr battle at the next 6 hr time slot. Not a glitch.
And we can initiate the regular 5hr guild battles. Which when maxed out with collection time is a 14hr cycle.

So iOS guilds can battle a total of 13hrs per day. PLUS... The likelyhood of a Facebook battle running short which would give us another 5hrs on those days.

iOS = 18hrs battle time / day (2x 5hr guild battle)
FB = 11hrs battle time / day (2x 5hr guild battle)

Advantage ... iOS. :)

I've tested this by making a guild on the app with my Facebook character.
FB can reset their festi clock but it still only allows 1 festi battle per day. When the timer runs down and the guild has already participated in a battle for that day, then the timer resets to 24hrs as soon as the next battle should start.

EDIT...

I thought I would correct the figures. It is possible for a guild to run two guild battle per day. Example: one battle runs 5 hours and the second battle only runs 3 hours. That would make both battles and collection periods a total of 24hrs.

iOS Guild:
+8hrs festival battle (4 2hr battles every 6 hours)
+5hrs FB guild battle
+3hrs FB guild battle (short battle)
= 16 total possible hours

Facebook Guild:
+1hr Festival Battle (only 1 possible every 24hrs)
+5hrs FB guild battle
+3hrs FB guild battle (short battle)
= 9 total possible hours

Advantage STILL iOS.

Awerththawre
02-04-2013, 02:54 PM
Still incorrect as if you do any fb battle on iOS, you will be classed as a fb guild and locked out of changing the iOS battle time (it skips battle times when it comes around) the system was there as a test for the new Facebook battle system ie multiple quick 2 hour battles, and there just hasn't been the battle time update we where expecting. In battle timings there is still a 1 or two hour advantage in battle time but what you are forgetting is as there is 4 battles on iOS and you start off with 10 tokens each time with auto collect feature, that is how iOS have an advantage in collecting tokens and using skills for achievements. And this is one of the reasons many fb people have joined iOS guilds.

xxBEOWULFxx (Slayers-iOS)
02-04-2013, 05:20 PM
Still incorrect as if you do any fb battle on iOS, you will be classed as a fb guild and locked out of changing the iOS battle time (it skips battle times when it comes around) the system was there as a test for the new Facebook battle system ie multiple quick 2 hour battles, and there just hasn't been the battle time update we where expecting. In battle timings there is still a 1 or two hour advantage in battle time but what you are forgetting is as there is 4 battles on iOS and you start off with 10 tokens each time with auto collect feature, that is how iOS have an advantage in collecting tokens and using skills for achievements. And this is one of the reasons many fb people have joined iOS guilds.


We've done at least 1 FB guild battle everyday for months.
And it hasn't changed us to a FB guild.
What distinguishes a FB guild from an iOS guild is simply the type of account that creates the guild.
I've made the mistake of creating a guild with a FB character.
And had to create a new one with my iOS character to get into the correct battle system.
We've enjoyed doing both types of battles for a year now.

To look at it from an available token perspective I'll add the number of starts. Because that is a valid point.

iOS Guild:
+8hrs festival battle (4 2hr battles every 6 hours)
+5hrs FB guild battle
+3hrs FB guild battle (short battle)
= 16 total possible hours
192 tokens (16 hrs) + 60 tokens (6 battle starts) = 252 possible tokens

Facebook Guild:
+1hr Festival Battle (only 1 possible every 24hrs)
+5hrs FB guild battle
+3hrs FB guild battle (short battle)
= 9 total possible hours
108 tokens (9 hrs) + 30 tokens (3 battle starts) = 138 possible tokens

---------------------------
iOS has a possible +114 tokens to use during a 24 hr day over FB.

IronJag
02-04-2013, 08:32 PM
Thats only on facebook though if u only play on iphone u cant have more then 1 battle a day.if u have a facebook account u can log into app and do a 3 hr battle through app but u and whoever is in your guild that is facebook connected will be able to battle

Ios accounts can do 4 festival battles over a 24hr period. My guild does 3 festival battles. We don't do fb battles.

Funny Focker
03-23-2013, 03:39 PM
ok Im a little lost. I recently started a guild on Facebook because, and I hate to sound cheap, but it was cheaper. One million versus the iphone app which required 20 million. Im running into the problem for battles. Most of my memebrs are iphone users as well as I use my iphone rather then facebook on the puter. In other guilds I have been able to change the time for the next battle after the collection period is done. Now when I do it on iphone with the facebook account the battle timer runs down and then resets to 24 hours without a battle showing up. Yesterday a battle did show up but only after I logged into facbook on the puter and intiated it. Why is it not allowing me to do four battles a day on the ihone like I know you can do? Is it because I set the guild up on facebook? If thats the case is there a way to change/ fix this?

pi3142
03-24-2013, 05:36 AM
Is it because I set the guild up on facebook? If thats the case is there a way to change/ fix this?

Yes. Make a new guild on the iOS. 20 mil is what you would earn per minute after a while.

Ajentis
03-24-2013, 08:19 PM
I thought it was common knowledge about these battles.
The devs know all about it and posted their first step to integrating FB and iOS battles together on the FB part of the forum but the FBers unanimously turned it down. The devs proposed a new battle system to change festival and guild battles to parallel iOS battle system. The change was to drop standard guild battles, reset FEstival leagues and change to 3x 2hr battles (sounds familiar?). If the change was approved by FBers then we would likely have seen our battle system change to match it.
Instead we keep upto 4 battles a day and the 5hr Facebook battle with a 9hr cooldown/collection period (this shows as a 3hr battle on iOS devices and only visible to FB accounts)