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Caitir Eavan
06-06-2010, 03:35 PM
If you have any questions about your stats and future skill point allocation, please use this topic.

S_F.darkzone
03-10-2012, 05:51 AM
Level 400 Commander
Energy : 415
Stamina : 600
Attack : 890
Defense : 505
Health : 150

I am monster hunting mainly..but do regular guild battles and festival guild battles..also will like to complete the sp's from battle rank and war rank and duel rank..just complete them..once done I might not battle so much..

so any suggestions?

madmax101
03-11-2012, 01:48 AM
level 374 Lieutenant General
Energy: 762
Stamina: 411
Attack: 740
Defense: 731
Health: 230

I do a lot of monster hunting however i never hit high in damage i would like to know what i should do to hit higher damage

n3r086
03-11-2012, 03:03 AM
Level 400 Commander
Energy : 415
Stamina : 600
Attack : 890
Defense : 505
Health : 150

I am monster hunting mainly..but do regular guild battles and festival guild battles..also will like to complete the sp's from battle rank and war rank and duel rank..just complete them..once done I might not battle so much..

so any suggestions?

which one is your main priority now? MH? getting SPs from battle rank?


level 374 Lieutenant General
Energy: 762
Stamina: 411
Attack: 740
Defense: 731
Health: 230

I do a lot of monster hunting however i never hit high in damage i would like to know what i should do to hit higher damage

higher damage in single 50 stam hit OR overall damage in a single monster?

S_F.darkzone
03-11-2012, 04:14 AM
right now I will like to finish the sp's first then return to monster hunting again....so what would you suggest?@n3ro86

n3r086
03-11-2012, 04:22 AM
right now I will like to finish the sp's first then return to monster hunting again....so what would you suggest?@n3ro86

well, If I was the one with that stat, I'll start adding attack and defense. Mainly I'll get my attack and defense to 1000 pts each, then start going cannon (adding more attack).

I have to remind you that adding BSI stats will lower your level-up time.
On the positive side, once you've cleared your SP target in PvP part, you'll be able to dish out bigger damage in monster since you have bigger attack stat :)

edit:
some might argue that we don't really need to increase defense that much and just go cannon :)
well, now the decision is yours ;)
Defense does count in Effective attack, also it does matter in doing energy-type action (fortifying, healing, strengthening, etc) in monsters ;)

madmax101
03-11-2012, 08:10 AM
which one is your main priority now? MH? getting SPs from battle rank?



higher damage in single 50 stam hit OR overall damage in a single monster?

i am looking to do more damage overall

n3r086
03-11-2012, 08:36 AM
i am looking to do more damage overall

then I'd suggest adding more stamina up to a point that you see enough (too much stamina is never enough to hunt monsters) :)
so you can do more 50 stam hits and also it will help you level up faster from monsters :)
also you'd like to add more SP to attack, try getting 1000 attack point (and maybe more) ;)

tjjl
03-11-2012, 09:42 AM
@darkzone, if you want to collect the sps from battle/war/festi ranks, I would recommend you add all of your future skill points for the next 100 or so levels to attack or defence (doesn't matter which). This will make it much easier for you to gain ranks, and also allows you to defend them. If you don't want to add to attack and defence, you could always try getting the new achievements (they give a decent amount of sp)

CaChac
03-11-2012, 12:17 PM
From a monster hunting point of view, completing them all seems a long term goal now, but I think you can get a good chunk of battle SP while not hurting your monster hunting ability too much by starting to rank up in battle.
It's easy invading up to nobility and doesn't need much more investment in att/def. You might get the 5000 invades SP and FP bonus this way.
The SP gained can probably be split between att and stamina.

War ranks depend on your generals, so get some good ones and check your opponent before starting war. War is costly and harder if you don't do much chests so , I'd do that after exhausting the easy skill points for battle.

As for festival duels, I didn't test it for a long time. When it started, it was for real pvpers, and your current stats wouldn't have cut it.
I don't know how it is now, maybe you can get the first ranks easily.

Jiadelme
03-12-2012, 02:12 PM
202 Energy
265 Stamina
571 Attack
182 Defense
103 Health

I am a monster hunter turned pvper, currently trying to bump up my Attack and Defense to a decent amount, any suggestions as in how much I should aim for?

Jiadelme
03-12-2012, 02:15 PM
202 Energy
265 Stamina
571 Attack
182 Defense
103 Health

I am a monster hunter turned pvper, currently trying to bump up my Attack and Defense to a decent amount, any suggestions as in how much I should aim for?

And I forgot to mention I am lvl162 now.

BTW, how do you edit posts here ?

Firal
03-12-2012, 02:50 PM
]Hey I'm new and I want to start playing this game on iPhone. The way to skill looks kinda difficult. What's the best way to skill to be hybrid? So I'm good vs monsters and guild wars and quests.

With best regards
Firal

n3r086
03-12-2012, 03:09 PM
202 Energy
265 Stamina
571 Attack
182 Defense
103 Health

I am a monster hunter turned pvper, currently trying to bump up my Attack and Defense to a decent amount, any suggestions as in how much I should aim for?


And I forgot to mention I am lvl162 now.

BTW, how do you edit posts here ?

welcome to the PvP world :D
in PvP, you'll want to add as many att/def as possible. You can go cannon, balanced, or wall.
For cannon, you have more attack than defend (maybe starting from 2:1 ratio). You can reach very high later on but don't really excel at defending yourself. (note that more attack pts = more damage when hitting a monster)
For wall, your defense is higher than attack. You can't reach very high but you'll see people bouncing on you.
For balance, I think it's self explanatory :)
(but I don't recommend this setup... I myself a balanced PvP, not so good when reaching way up, not so good at defending myself.... well... a so-so build)


]Hey I'm new and I want to start playing this game on iPhone. The way to skill looks kinda difficult. What's the best way to skill to be hybrid? So I'm good vs monsters and guild wars and quests.

With best regards
Firal

Just PM'd you. I think we can continue in there ;)

richunder
03-12-2012, 06:21 PM
For wall, your defense is higher than attack. You can't reach very high but you'll see people bouncing on you.



If you have evalice or xira then you can reach up quite a bit as a wall ;)

pemain_gitar
03-13-2012, 01:22 AM
Level 234

Max Energy - 360
Max Stamina - 231
Attack - 698
Defense - 37
Health - 134
Army - 52


Preferably I am a PvM and want to continue that way to get more epic items from monsters but ta the same time, I realize the necessity for leveling up. I just don't understand how some people get the stats to deal 14-15 mil damage to a monster when on a good round I manage 4-5.

Bristolen
03-13-2012, 01:29 AM
Level 234

Max Energy - 360
Max Stamina - 231
Attack - 698
Defense - 37
Health - 134
Army - 52


Preferably I am a PvM and want to continue that way to get more epic items from monsters but ta the same time, I realize the necessity for leveling up. I just don't understand how some people get the stats to deal 14-15 mil damage to a monster when on a good round I manage 4-5.

you need a lot more stamina. and by a lot, i mean add several hundreds more.

they have more stamina/attack than you- and given enough time they can do 14-15 mil damage. if not a lot of days have passed on the monster and people have 14-15 mil damage- then i would suspect FP usage or people who stamina load before joining a monster.

stamina loading is where you let your stamina approach your max stamina amount so that when you use your stamina- you level up soon after. so you go into the monster with like 700 stamina, when your max is 750 stamina. you level up a few hours later, and voila you have used over 1450 stamina on a monster without FP refills and get decent damage to boot ;)

for monster hunters, remember it does you no good to have a big attack stat if you dont have a lot of stamina to use that attack stat against the monster. more stamina also means you keep leveling decently fast. more level ups on monsters = more damage.

pemain_gitar
03-13-2012, 01:32 AM
So what is the quickest way to get stamina? I assume using Azeron every 48 hrs, skill points from quests etc?

Bristolen
03-13-2012, 03:14 AM
Put level-up SPs towards stamina, quest SPs towards stamina, and pray to azeron. Every single SP that comes into your possession should go into stamina pretty much. since you are only in your level 200s, you should have plenty of monster achievements, battle ranks, monster gold medals, etc to go after to get SPs too. if you are interested in going after monster medals, here is a link that gives damages you should do- http://castleage.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Medals. be sure to read everything on the page because some monsters do not give out gold medals because they are festival/conquest/or whatever.

but lets do some number crunching in case you arent sold on adding to stamina ;)

youre probably doing around 54k damage on a 10 stamina hit against most monsters. with your 230 stamina now, that means you do about 1,242,000 damage (without criticals) on level up. (54k damage x 23 10 stamina hits=1,242,000 damage).

if you had 500 stamina, on level up, you'd do 2.7 mil damage (again, not counting for criticals).

if you level up twice on a monster with 500 stamina, then you get 5.4 mil damage right there. so you can see where having a higher max stamina stat does pay off in damage returns.

standard advice to monster hunters is to get to at least 1k max stamina (that is the max stamina you can refill for 10 FPs). i, myself, advocate going past 1k because i prefer leveling faster than people who stop adding to energy/stamina. i also like to do big stamina dumps on monsters for big damage :D

if i did 54k damage per 10 stamina hit, on a level-up id do 8,127,000 damage (no crits) because i have over 1500 stamina. i level about every 2 days and 20 hours because of my high energy/stamina stats. so i can level up 2 times on a slow kill monster, and get over 16 mil damage easy. with regenerated stamina, if i throw that at the monster as well- id be throwing 1700 more stamina towards monster for 9.18 mil more damage.

so you see- the secret to monster hunting is not only having a decent attack stat (which you already have for monster hunting), but also having an extremely good stamina stat and leveling up plenty of times on a monster. :D

n3r086
03-13-2012, 06:06 AM
If you have evalice or xira then you can reach up quite a bit as a wall ;)

ah yes, they could be useful in certain situation :p

or we might want to add Halcyon for high attack build ;)

keymakerhong
03-13-2012, 02:22 PM
level 289 Earl
310 max energy
450 max stamina
619 attack
655 defense
145 max health

I am interested in mainly hunting monsters and also PVP occasionally. Can you give me any advice for a build to aim for?

n3r086
03-13-2012, 03:18 PM
level 289 Earl
310 max energy
450 max stamina
619 attack
655 defense
145 max health

I am interested in mainly hunting monsters and also PVP occasionally. Can you give me any advice for a build to aim for?

well, your current build is a hybrid. You can "taste" 2 game-aspect CA has to offer. You are good, but not great in term of hunting or PvP-ing.

Do you have any specific goals?
If you want to be a hybrid, you're on the right track. I'd say try to maintain your BSI and LSI level ;)

Briobane
03-19-2012, 03:27 PM
First Knight level 35
Energy :60
Stamina :60
Attack :90
Defence :25
Health :112

Originally designed for questing and monster hunting. however, I am recently switching to pvp/monster hunter (cleric build.) Any suggestions?

zserg
03-19-2012, 07:18 PM
First Knight level 35
Energy :60
Stamina :60
Attack :90
Defence :25
Health :112

Originally designed for questing and monster hunting. however, I am recently switching to pvp/monster hunter (cleric build.) Any suggestions?

My suggestion would be to continue to build your energy/stam base. You'll need it to be able to increase att and def at a good rate. I suggest something like 300-400 energy, and enough stam so you don't lose too much regen. If you can get on every 10 hours 120 stam would be enough.
Alternatively you could keep stam where it is and increase energy to something like 700+ and buy Solara who transfers some of your max energy to stam.
The reason for high energy is that there are tons of quests out there, and the investment is worth it imo.
Also for clerics high def is better, but in the end as long as you have high attack or def, it doesn't really matter.

Bythai
03-20-2012, 01:16 AM
Centurion Level 109
Energy: 100
Stamina: 50
Attack: 582
Defense: 180
Health: 109 (Currently doing Aurora)

I made this account ages ago and only really just got back into it again and need some direction. I enjoy monster hunting and guild battles and don't mind a bit of dueling but I don't tend to have enough stamina do both dueling and monster hunting. So you can see my dilemna. At this point I'm just wondering what I should do next. If I should try and save my build a bit by pumping stamina (albiet be slowly due to my level) or just continue with the high BSI?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Bythai.

patr3kk3r
03-20-2012, 01:23 AM
Level 407 Prince
Energy 400
Stamina 382
Attack 1294
Defense 1032
Health 396

Briobane
03-20-2012, 03:42 PM
My suggestion would be to continue to build your energy/stam base. You'll need it to be able to increase att and def at a good rate. I suggest something like 300-400 energy, and enough stam so you don't lose too much regen. If you can get on every 10 hours 120 stam would be enough.
Alternatively you could keep stam where it is and increase energy to something like 700+ and buy Solara who transfers some of your max energy to stam.
The reason for high energy is that there are tons of quests out there, and the investment is worth it imo.
Also for clerics high def is better, but in the end as long as you have high attack or def, it doesn't really matter.

right. For the most part, I have been dividing different aspects of the game into different stats.

example:

Demi : ambrosia/ Azeron for either energy or stamina. Mostly stamina since it is the most costly.

Questing : skill points go towards Energy or stamina

Battle : skill points earned for ranks go into attack and defence

Player Level Increses : I generally put 2-4 points into stamina and 1-3 points into either attack or defence.

by the way, what are the requirements for unlocking solara?

zserg
03-20-2012, 04:09 PM
right. For the most part, I have been dividing different aspects of the game into different stats.

example:

Demi : ambrosia/ Azeron for either energy or stamina. Mostly stamina since it is the most costly.

Questing : skill points go towards Energy or stamina

Battle : skill points earned for ranks go into attack and defence

Player Level Increses : I generally put 2-4 points into stamina and 1-3 points into either attack or defence.

by the way, what are the requirements for unlocking solara?

She's a monthly general. One of those that appear on your main page. I don't know what lvl she appears for, but I believe with the right link you can buy her at any level(and yes devs have deemed these links legal, just make sure you use the right one and don't buy something else). http://www.castleageforums.com/cforum/showthread.php?t=33960

EliteSpartan
03-20-2012, 04:31 PM
Hey folks I'm relatively new to castle age but i am used to these type of games, im currently level 18 and my stats are:

Energy: 65
Stamina: 31
Attack: 20
Defense: 1
Health: 120
Army: 42

I really like the idea of going a type of hybrid player between monster slaying and Guild Battles with PvP as well..
From what i have gathered Health play's a rather large role in Guild battles, i will be a really active player as i am really enjoying playing this (Via Iphone)

So any build tips anyone can give me would be a really good help so i'll hopefully hear from you soon :) Thanks

zserg
03-21-2012, 08:17 AM
Hey folks I'm relatively new to castle age but i am used to these type of games, im currently level 18 and my stats are:

Energy: 65
Stamina: 31
Attack: 20
Defense: 1
Health: 120
Army: 42

I really like the idea of going a type of hybrid player between monster slaying and Guild Battles with PvP as well..
From what i have gathered Health play's a rather large role in Guild battles, i will be a really active player as i am really enjoying playing this (Via Iphone)

So any build tips anyone can give me would be a really good help so i'll hopefully hear from you soon :) Thanks


When it comes to health, I'm probably a bit more old-school than some of the people that you may have talked with. I suggest you don't add to it for the first couple of hundred of lvls except for aurora blessings perhaps to get her stuff. All health will do for you at this low lvl is hinder your development in every other area of the game.

If I were you I'd build my energy/stam and my attack/def first, then start worrying about hp.

There are guilds out there that don't have X amount of HP as a requirement, and that would be willing to take even new players. Just hang around the groups and guilds part of the forum and you'll find something for sure. :D

n3r086
03-21-2012, 12:28 PM
Centurion Level 109
Energy: 100
Stamina: 50
Attack: 582
Defense: 180
Health: 109 (Currently doing Aurora)

I made this account ages ago and only really just got back into it again and need some direction. I enjoy monster hunting and guild battles and don't mind a bit of dueling but I don't tend to have enough stamina do both dueling and monster hunting. So you can see my dilemna. At this point I'm just wondering what I should do next. If I should try and save my build a bit by pumping stamina (albiet be slowly due to my level) or just continue with the high BSI?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Bythai.

well, based on your description, you're aiming to become hybrid. Add more energy and stamina first (say... to 300) for more efficient questing and hunting :)
you have enough attack at your level to deal decent damage in monsters.
After you get decent amount of energy and stamina, you can try to maintain your BSI and LSI.
oh, don't forget to take daily praying (maybe to azeron first to help you pump up your stamina)

n3r086
03-21-2012, 12:29 PM
Level 407 Prince
Energy 400
Stamina 382
Attack 1294
Defense 1032
Health 396

and? :eek:

n3r086
03-21-2012, 12:34 PM
Hey folks I'm relatively new to castle age but i am used to these type of games, im currently level 18 and my stats are:

Energy: 65
Stamina: 31
Attack: 20
Defense: 1
Health: 120
Army: 42

I really like the idea of going a type of hybrid player between monster slaying and Guild Battles with PvP as well..
From what i have gathered Health play's a rather large role in Guild battles, i will be a really active player as i am really enjoying playing this (Via Iphone)

So any build tips anyone can give me would be a really good help so i'll hopefully hear from you soon :) Thanks

agree with zserg's post.
health should be added later on (after you have spare SPs to spend).

for now, I suggest getting your energy and stamina to at least 300 first (288 is the max daily regeneration... 5 minutes for each energy and stamina). build on your energy first so you can do more quests and gain more SPs.
If you add SPs to attack and defense (also health) early on, you'll need to wait longer to gain a level.

Coheed27
03-22-2012, 01:36 PM
Level 48

Energy 147

Stamina 77

Attack 43

Defense 43

Health 101

I am trying to be a hybrid player because I don't want to wait two days to level. I was wondering what I should do and what sp levels I should be at? I also wanted your opinion on using the level up SP for stamina and energy, then using all other SP for attack and defense. Does that make sense? What would you do?

Coheed27
03-22-2012, 01:46 PM
Level 48

Energy 147

Stamina 77

Attack 43

Defense 43

Health 101

I am trying to be a hybrid player because I don't want to wait two days to level. I was wondering what I should do and what sp levels I should be at? I also wanted your opinion on using the level up SP for stamina and energy, then using all other SP for attack and defense. Does that make sense? What would you do?

I also am in fbc guild, fat boint crew, and I want to be able to actually help in guild wars, currently I am a cleric. Thought that was pertinent.

n3r086
03-22-2012, 03:20 PM
Level 48
Energy 147
Stamina 77
Attack 43
Defense 43
Health 101

I am trying to be a hybrid player because I don't want to wait two days to level. I was wondering what I should do and what sp levels I should be at? I also wanted your opinion on using the level up SP for stamina and energy, then using all other SP for attack and defense. Does that make sense? What would you do?


I also am in fbc guild, fat boint crew, and I want to be able to actually help in guild wars, currently I am a cleric. Thought that was pertinent.

well, if you wanted to build hybrid early on, you might want to split your SPs evenly (but I wont recommend that).
5 SPs per level up can go to 1 energy, 1 stamina (2pts per stat), 1 to attack, 1 to energy.

for your early level, I would suggest building your energy up first to 300 then stamina to 300 (so you can gain SPs faster from questing and hit monster more efficiently). After that, you might want to add attack and defense. Try to maintain your LSI first so you can level up at steady pace.

Typically, hybrids has almost the same BSI and LSI. So, after you got your desired LSI, start adding up your BSI stats (att+def).

now, about cleric in guild battles..
Clerics would be best to have a good defense (so you can bounce more attacks directed to you). Health? well... it depends on your guild policy.
In guild battles, health is (somewhat) important. You might want to add to 200 as minimum... but then again it's better to ask your guild's policy about health :)

edit: almost forgot... keep taking your daily demi prayers to help speed up things ;)

Coheed27
03-22-2012, 04:28 PM
Thank you.... Adding extra characters.... Uvbynkhjjjn there!

Qester
03-22-2012, 11:29 PM
Level 90

Energy 141
Stamina 197
Attack 137
Defense 2
Max Health 101
Army Size 3

I am a "completion" type gamer, I want to get all SPs possible as well as get gold rank with all monsters/ achievements. I am working on increasing the amount of army size i have right now. What steps do I need to take to do well from here overall in the game?

n3r086
03-23-2012, 09:12 AM
Level 90

Energy 141
Stamina 197
Attack 137
Defense 2
Max Health 101
Army Size 3

I am a "completion" type gamer, I want to get all SPs possible as well as get gold rank with all monsters/ achievements. I am working on increasing the amount of army size i have right now. What steps do I need to take to do well from here overall in the game?

wow, you're from 2009 :eek:

Try setting a specific goal first (maybe the short-term first since you've defined the long-term one.... completing the achievement).
Have you completed the first few achievement?
Dragons, Sylvanas, Collosus?

right now, I see you're building into monster hunting build. I suggest adding energy first to at least 300. then work on your stamina to at least 300.

now, festival feat achievement is at:
Energy: 725
Stamina: 360
Attack: 725
Defense: 725
Health: 500
Army: 1200
(source: wikia)

You might want to add your stats to that point first :)

for army add, you can check the forum sub-section ;)

zserg
03-23-2012, 09:21 AM
Level 90

Energy 141
Stamina 197
Attack 137
Defense 2
Max Health 101
Army Size 3

I am a "completion" type gamer, I want to get all SPs possible as well as get gold rank with all monsters/ achievements. I am working on increasing the amount of army size i have right now. What steps do I need to take to do well from here overall in the game?

Well to get all the SPs possible you will probably need FP refills in the future :3

Anyway since you mentioned gold medals, you'll need to have good stamina and energy. But you're also pretty close to 200 attack which is good for some of the old monsters, and it's old achievement monsters you should be doing right now. So perhaps increase Energy and attack for now. then when you have like 300 energy and attack a bit more than 200, increase stam to maybe 500.

Then you can start working on attack again, and if you find that you really like monsters you can add more to it, if not you can stop there. :D

You'll also need some def at some point to heal, but best to build the other 3 stats first. And since you want to get all the SP, that likely means sp from pvp too, and it's easier to get those with high atta ck build.

SashaDragon
03-23-2012, 02:40 PM
I haven't dropped by in a while so since the 500 page thread was restarted I though I would come by and offer my personal experiences. My goals when I started playing about 10 months were totally goofy, I wanted to out level my brother and dad who had both been playing for more then a year. Yes I accomplished my goals got past my brother in under 6 months dad in 8 now 40 levels ahead of him and climbing. I have never used a refill except for a miss click on that stupid token refill in guild conquest grrrr. I started with the mass energy for leveling speed, levels were all that mattered, I have prayed only for defense for the most part since I started. I have not completed the demi quests for anything except defense. I built in this order energy, stamina, attack and now working defense up to the festival feat. I don't pvp much really just the conquest stuff. I have found energy to be very useful, it has given my war council 3 meteor storms before level 400, currently I am summoninging 2 Kraken per week on the way to the Helm of The Deep, in between Krakens I am finishing off the achievements for Skaar, Genesis and dragons. I have completed gold medal kills on everything through Genesis except that pesky Red dragon for reason. The generals I had to have in order Zin, Solara, and Maalvus now I just save for the best monthly I can get to add to the council. I am the only one in my family to have gotten Medius (that caused some irritation hehehe).

What's next in my build well after hitting the 725 mark in defense for festival feat I plan on pushing stamina to the 1k mark before adding more att/def.

Yes I can get my clock cleaned in pvp but that will change eventually after all I have only been here 10 months or so and I think I have done ok.

Level 462 Centurion Lvl 2 in War, Lvl 1 Conquest Duel Lvl 5 Rogue, Warrior, Lvl 3 Ranger, Lvl 4 Mage and Lvl 2 Cleric

2003 Energy
526 Stamina
732 Attack
230 Defense
104 Max Health
494 Army Size

Oh and if anyone needs easy gear send me a friend invite with a note asking for Krakens I will add you to the list for direct invites. We do 4 mil damage each before we open it public so the gear flows freely.

Forgot to add I am completing the quests in Mist II currently

Qester
03-23-2012, 07:13 PM
wow, you're from 2009 :eek:

Try setting a specific goal first (maybe the short-term first since you've defined the long-term one.... completing the achievement).
Have you completed the first few achievement?
Dragons, Sylvanas, Collosus?

right now, I see you're building into monster hunting build. I suggest adding energy first to at least 300. then work on your stamina to at least 300.

now, festival feat achievement is at:
Energy: 725
Stamina: 360
Attack: 725
Defense: 725
Health: 500
Army: 1200
(source: wikia)

You might want to add your stats to that point first :)

for army add, you can check the forum sub-section ;)



In terms of achievements thus far I have completed level 4 influence in 25 quests, won 100 duels, won and lost 10 duels in a row. So far I have only completed the Gildamesh Achievement. I still need to get gold status on the Gold Dragon and Hydra.

I am Battle Rank 4, I have no idea what this conquest duel/war rank/ conquest rank stuff is. I am not apart of a guild and I have never done a raid. However I am extremely active!

n3r086
03-24-2012, 12:45 PM
In terms of achievements thus far I have completed level 4 influence in 25 quests, won 100 duels, won and lost 10 duels in a row. So far I have only completed the Gildamesh Achievement. I still need to get gold status on the Gold Dragon and Hydra.

I am Battle Rank 4, I have no idea what this conquest duel/war rank/ conquest rank stuff is. I am not apart of a guild and I have never done a raid. However I am extremely active!

well, if you choose to hunt monsters more than PvP-ing, you still have a lot of "easy" achievements :)

I suggest not to hunt gold statuses too early. You can complete it later on after you are stronger (have more stamina and attack) :)

about the PvP part, well, for now I can only suggest you to just do the "normal" ladder.

you might also want to consider joining this group: http://www.facebook.com/groups/273431742729465/ for more details about the game ;)

(zserg, I'm advertising for you, do I get paid? :D)

Relle
03-25-2012, 01:52 AM
level 171 Legionnaire
151 Max Energy
151 Max Stamina
433 Attack
354 Defense
225 Max Health
442 Army Size

I am a player who helps others...probably to my own detriment but it is how I play and I have been told many things about how to build and it seems you cant ever win because to be strong in one area makes you weak in another. I am a 171 cleric/rogue. Almost a level 4 Cleric and working up to a level 3 Rogue. We fest/guild battle and are working our guild up the fest tower where we are sitting between platinum/vanguard (I just made vanguard).

I have been getting conflicting information and I am trying to get my head around what I need to do for my level to get stronger. I was told get your health up...so I did....then it was get your attack/def up...so I did...now it is your stamina/energy is low...so I am beginning to think I will never get strong enough!!!

Suggestions/feedback.... :) thanks

n3r086
03-25-2012, 02:21 AM
level 171 Legionnaire
151 Max Energy
151 Max Stamina
433 Attack
354 Defense
225 Max Health
442 Army Size

I am a player who helps others...probably to my own detriment but it is how I play and I have been told many things about how to build and it seems you cant ever win because to be strong in one area makes you weak in another. I am a 171 cleric/rogue. Almost a level 4 Cleric and working up to a level 3 Rogue. We fest/guild battle and are working our guild up the fest tower where we are sitting between platinum/vanguard (I just made vanguard).

I have been getting conflicting information and I am trying to get my head around what I need to do for my level to get stronger. I was told get your health up...so I did....then it was get your attack/def up...so I did...now it is your stamina/energy is low...so I am beginning to think I will never get strong enough!!!

Suggestions/feedback.... :) thanks

at your level, I can say you have a good stat :)
now, you must decide first whether to go PvP, Hybrid or Monster hunter.
which one do you like the most? PvP-ing or hunting?

It is true that once you specialize in PvP, you suck in monster hunting, vice versa. The ones that's good (not excellent) in both part of the game is hybrids, but they're just.... good, not great.

based on your stats, you are a strong hybrids.
I suggest increasing your energy and stamina first if you really loves hunting over PvP-ing. Try getting 300 energy first then 300 stamina :)

If you want to continue the PvP road, don't bother adding energy and stamina, add everything in your attack and defense. Go balanced to at least 500 attack and 500 defense then you might go cannon (adding more to attack)

health? don't touch it again until you have leveled more. Seriously, it will hinder your progress for now.

PS: you will get strong in time. Choose what's best for you, the ones that suits your play-style :)

deneme
03-25-2012, 01:14 PM
level 131 Legionnaire
41 Max Energy
20 Max Stamina
1141 Attack
6 Defense
100 Max Health
126 Army Size

:)

finalight
03-31-2012, 12:03 AM
level 502 Knight
2130 Max Energy -- Do more quests
510 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
1000 Attack -- Offensive might
133 Defense -- Defense power
168 Max Health -- Withstand attacks


not going for PvP, are there any stats that i should focus on?

zserg
04-01-2012, 01:09 PM
level 131 Legionnaire
41 Max Energy
20 Max Stamina
1141 Attack
6 Defense
100 Max Health
126 Army Size

:)
you have a great BSI, congratz, though you may consider adding some energy for quests.

level 502 Knight
2130 Max Energy -- Do more quests
510 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
1000 Attack -- Offensive might
133 Defense -- Defense power
168 Max Health -- Withstand attacks


not going for PvP, are there any stats that i should focus on?

Stamina? I assume you're focusing on monsters? You might also need some extra def to be able to heal without using so much energy? Ofc you could also add more energy instead of adding the extra def. Don't know what is more efficient for monsters, though I have a monster hunter friend with 1000+ ene and 1000+ stam and she added some def for healing in monsters, I suppose she had a good reason for doing so. :D

Ccrivera86
04-01-2012, 07:16 PM
Lvl 65 Lieutenant General
84-Energy
90-Stamina
180-Attack
63-Defence
100-Health
I Like going after Monster more than Pvp. Can someone please guide me and tell me what I should be focusing on at this point. Thanks

deneme
04-02-2012, 11:21 PM
you have a great BSI, congratz, though you may consider adding some energy for quests.


I'm still on Land of Mist (3rd questing area)
I'm gonna max it to 108 when I get lotus boss quest (with demi gods)
not gonna give health or def (even with demi gods)
maybe would boost stamina to 100 (demi gods only) after 2000Atack :)
lvl 134 1175 atack right now ( ya slow but powerfull ) :D

wraith
04-03-2012, 02:11 AM
level 131 Legionnaire
41 Max Energy
20 Max Stamina
1141 Attack
6 Defense
100 Max Health
126 Army Size

:)
I would still consider putting at least 80-120 energy and stamina to reduce overflow. Slow and powerful is nice... but why not be slow and more powerful? Wasting energy and stamina just means less quest SP and less xp gained (which you could have gotten for free).

zserg
04-03-2012, 05:53 AM
I'm still on Land of Mist (3rd questing area)
I'm gonna max it to 108 when I get lotus boss quest (with demi gods)
not gonna give health or def (even with demi gods)
maybe would boost stamina to 100 (demi gods only) after 2000Atack :)
lvl 134 1175 atack right now ( ya slow but powerfull ) :D


I would still consider putting at least 80-120 energy and stamina to reduce overflow. Slow and powerful is nice... but why not be slow and more powerful? Wasting energy and stamina just means less quest SP and less xp gained (which you could have gotten for free).

Don't listen to me, but listen to this guy please, he's got BSI 10+ and 4k+ base attack :3

n3r086
04-03-2012, 01:57 PM
level 502 Knight
2130 Max Energy -- Do more quests
510 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
1000 Attack -- Offensive might
133 Defense -- Defense power
168 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

not going for PvP, are there any stats that i should focus on?

If you like killing monsters, add more stamina
you might want to add more defense so you can be more efficient doing energy-related things in monsters

this is your index
BSI = 2.256972112
LSI = 6.274900398

maybe you'll want to get your LSI to 6.5 first (by adding stamina) then decide what you'll want to do next


Lvl 65 Lieutenant General
84-Energy
90-Stamina
180-Attack
63-Defence
100-Health
I Like going after Monster more than Pvp. Can someone please guide me and tell me what I should be focusing on at this point. Thanks

BSI 3.738461538
LSI 4.061538462

add energy first to at least 288 (or 300 if you prefer round numbers) then add stamina. Try getting your LSI to at least 5 then add extra SPs to attack for more damage per stamina OR defense for more efficient healing/fortifying/energy related things per energy.



level 131 Legionnaire
41 Max Energy
20 Max Stamina
1141 Attack
6 Defense
100 Max Health
126 Army Size

:)


I'm still on Land of Mist (3rd questing area)
I'm gonna max it to 108 when I get lotus boss quest (with demi gods)
not gonna give health or def (even with demi gods)
maybe would boost stamina to 100 (demi gods only) after 2000Atack :)
lvl 134 1175 atack right now ( ya slow but powerfull ) :D

add more energy, maybe to 144 (12 h regen). you can benefit from faster questing. Also, later quests requires more than 41 energy per click ;)

cpkz
04-07-2012, 08:27 PM
level 446 Prince
1000 Max Energy
562 Max Stamina
1028 Attack
1000 Defense
353 Max Health
767 Army Size

Going for Hybrid

n3r086
04-08-2012, 12:10 AM
level 446 Prince
1000 Max Energy
562 Max Stamina
1028 Attack
1000 Defense
353 Max Health
767 Army Size

Going for Hybrid

BSI 4.547085202
LSI 4.762331839

you are already in hybrid state :)
nice build btw :D

cheeseslug
04-08-2012, 06:26 AM
lvl 55X Duke


1148 Max Energy -- Do more quests
832 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
1073 Attack -- Offensive might
741 Defense -- Defense power
235 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

Hybrid build was idea, I'm starting to think I should give up on pvp for a while and pump energy to 2000 and stam to 1000, then add attack after that


Trying to complete more quests for sp as well as point per level is low

Kfang
04-11-2012, 12:16 AM
Currently only lvl 100

Energy = 200
Stamina = 250
Attack = 100
Rest = 0

I want to be mainly a monster hunter (possibly waaay down the line a PVPer). At the moment, I'm having trouble deciding whether I want to fully invest in Attack, or full Def (I dont want to do hybrid.)
I was wondering which is more important and needed for most monster hunting groups.
Is there enough monsters out there that would award me enough for going a full Energy/Def build? Or do most monster hunters prefer more DPS (full Atk/Stam)

I guess a simpler question is, can all high end monsters use more players with Energy/Fortify builds? Or would doing a full Energy/Def build exclude me from certain monsters and drops?

Thanks for help!

Ineluki
04-11-2012, 12:58 AM
Currently only lvl 100

Energy = 200
Stamina = 250
Attack = 100
Rest = 0

I want to be mainly a monster hunter (possibly waaay down the line a PVPer). At the moment, I'm having trouble deciding whether I want to fully invest in Attack, or full Def (I dont want to do hybrid.)
I was wondering which is more important and needed for most monster hunting groups.
Is there enough monsters out there that would award me enough for going a full Energy/Def build? Or do most monster hunters prefer more DPS (full Atk/Stam)

I guess a simpler question is, can all high end monsters use more players with Energy/Fortify builds? Or would doing a full Energy/Def build exclude me from certain monsters and drops?

Thanks for help!

Heal/fortify gets you essentially nothing on monsters except if you're farming for FP. For loot you need damage so you want mostly stamina with attack as a secondary stat. (someone tested doing something like 20 mil worth of heals with no damage and wound up with a rusty glove as loot). If you want to focus on PVP then you'll want more attack and defense.

Kfang
04-11-2012, 05:01 AM
Heal/fortify gets you essentially nothing on monsters except if you're farming for FP. For loot you need damage so you want mostly stamina with attack as a secondary stat. (someone tested doing something like 20 mil worth of heals with no damage and wound up with a rusty glove as loot). If you want to focus on PVP then you'll want more attack and defense.

I see, didn't know this. Thanks!

Lain-Iwakura
04-11-2012, 11:55 AM
level 464

605 Max Energy -- Do more quests
1029 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
1003 Attack -- Offensive might
113 Defense -- Defense power
161 Max Health -- Withstand attacks
+821 Army Size -- Take more soldiers into battle

want to be a strong monster hunter. I wanna hit 1200 stamina first - for multiple stamina attacks with maalvus (x3). But what next? More stamina, or more attack like 1500-2000?

n3r086
04-11-2012, 12:05 PM
level 464

605 Max Energy -- Do more quests
1029 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
1003 Attack -- Offensive might
113 Defense -- Defense power
161 Max Health -- Withstand attacks
+821 Army Size -- Take more soldiers into battle

want to be a strong monster hunter. I wanna hit 1200 stamina first - for multiple stamina attacks with maalvus (x3). But what next? More stamina, or more attack like 1500-2000?

more attack would do :) say.. to 1500 first
then add defense to be more efficient doing energy related things in monsters (strengthen/heal/cripple/deflect)

or you can add defense first then attack :)

VanDavian
04-11-2012, 12:07 PM
level 464

605 Max Energy -- Do more quests
1029 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
1003 Attack -- Offensive might
113 Defense -- Defense power
161 Max Health -- Withstand attacks
+821 Army Size -- Take more soldiers into battle

want to be a strong monster hunter. I wanna hit 1200 stamina first - for multiple stamina attacks with maalvus (x3). But what next? More stamina, or more attack like 1500-2000?

We have a very similar build, I am also monster orientated. The only diff between us is that I focused early on attack, and am yet to build my stam to 1,000...although close there. I suggest getting your attack to at least 1,500 as the next thing. I think you will see the advances at this stage, however adding much more than this may be time better spent adding back on to stam. So, attack to 1,500...or even close to 2,000 (not sure where diminishing returns are at).After this, it would be my plan to never stop adding to stam ever again...lol which is what I'm doing. Edit: just noticed you have very little defence. Get it to 500 or 600...will help you A LOT as a well rounded monster hunter,capable of cleaning up their own damage.

adondralyn
04-11-2012, 01:42 PM
IPhone User
Level 102
energy 371
stamina 140
att 97
def 20
health 103
army 250

Started the game a total noob. As i have played love the monster battles and guild battle the most. What should I do with points from here out to become better at this? Also which class should I focus on, so far for all monster and guild battles its be mage.

thanks

Kaotic138
04-11-2012, 03:51 PM
IPhone user
level 170

500 Max Energy -- Do more quests
277 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
52 Attack -- Offensive might
10 Defense -- Defense power
110 Max Health -- Withstand attacks
+321 Army Size -- Take more soldiers into battle

I am going for a master hunter/PL build that will transition in to a pvp player way down the line. I am using the guide that was made by lord dufduf or the "300 rule guide" But the question that I have is.. Should i just keep farming that quest and keep pumping in to e/s or should i stop and start putting some in to def? All I am doing at the moment is farming the 35/20 quest and I stopped doing the quests after that.

I know I am losing out to SP in not doing the quests but I am still leveling about 2-3 times a day. Also one more question if I do up my DEF to a tier..say 200 def. will I get more xp when I fortify on monsters? Would i then switch to just fortifying monsters for xp and not quests when I reach my goal of 200 energy/ 100 Sta?

Thanks ahead for any response to my questions guys.

Ineluki
04-11-2012, 05:24 PM
IPhone user
level 170

500 Max Energy -- Do more quests
277 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
52 Attack -- Offensive might
10 Defense -- Defense power
110 Max Health -- Withstand attacks
+321 Army Size -- Take more soldiers into battle

I am going for a master hunter/PL build that will transition in to a pvp player way down the line. I am using the guide that was made by lord dufduf or the "300 rule guide" But the question that I have is.. Should i just keep farming that quest and keep pumping in to e/s or should i stop and start putting some in to def? All I am doing at the moment is farming the 35/20 quest and I stopped doing the quests after that.

I know I am losing out to SP in not doing the quests but I am still leveling about 2-3 times a day. Also one more question if I do up my DEF to a tier..say 200 def. will I get more xp when I fortify on monsters? Would i then switch to just fortifying monsters for xp and not quests when I reach my goal of 200 energy/ 100 Sta?

Thanks ahead for any response to my questions guys.

If you did the normal quests instead of Cefka you'd actually progress faster. You would level up a little slower for awhile but you'd get more skill points per level which you could put into energy to do more quests. Those 2 effects snowball resulting in faster leveling and more skill points. The better ratio on Cefka would put you ahead for awhile, but after you get an extra few hundred energy or so, you'd be ahead for good doing normal quests.

Then you want stamina. Your attack and defense are low enough that I would decide on what you want your eventual energy/stamina targets to be and push straight to those now ignoring attack and defense completely. Then fixing your attack/def will happen much faster.

TygaTyga
04-12-2012, 02:45 AM
level 136
145 Max Energy -- Do more quests
146 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
544 Attack -- Offensive might
55 Defense -- Defense power
148 Max Health -- Withstand attacks
257 Army Size -- Take more soldiers into battle

I just wanna know where I should go from here. I guess I would prefer some sort of monster/pvp build, but i'll do whatever is easiest from what I got to work with.

TygaTyga
04-12-2012, 03:38 AM
The sooner one of you guys answers me the sooner I can refill. Lol. I'm antsy. :D

Bristolen
04-12-2012, 04:19 AM
get a good base of energy first to do lots of quests for SPs, have energy to heal monsters (especially with your low defense stat), and be able to contribute energy in your future monster battles when it comes to strengthening, deflecting, or crippling.

energy really pays itself off the more times you level up with a big energy stat.

id say get up to at least 500 energy, then add hundreds more stamina.

n3r086
04-12-2012, 11:00 AM
level 136
145 Max Energy -- Do more quests
146 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
544 Attack -- Offensive might
55 Defense -- Defense power
148 Max Health -- Withstand attacks
257 Army Size -- Take more soldiers into battle

I just wanna know where I should go from here. I guess I would prefer some sort of monster/pvp build, but i'll do whatever is easiest from what I got to work with.

BSI 4.404411765
LSI 3.213235294

you are already hybrid (according to your aim). try to maintain your BSI and LSI range, but first I'd suggest you to increase your energy first to at least 288 (you might want to round it up to 300 :p) then increase stamina to at least 300. see how it works out for you :)

Relle
04-14-2012, 10:41 AM
Thank you for your feed back :)

dragonkingdom93
04-16-2012, 11:53 PM
IPhone User
lvl 85

125 energy
126 stamina
228 attack
20 defense
100 health

I'm wanting to be a decent monster hunter but still want to be helpful in guild battles along the way

n3r086
04-17-2012, 02:14 AM
IPhone User
lvl 85

125 energy
126 stamina
228 attack
20 defense
100 health

I'm wanting to be a decent monster hunter but still want to be helpful in guild battles along the way

BSI 2.917647059
LSI 4.435294118

then I'd suggest you to become a hybrid (you are a hunter hybrid already) :)
you'd want to increase your energy and stamina to 300 first, then add more attack (say to 500), then add more defense (say at least 100 so you can do energy related action in monsters better). I won't suggest anything about health (although it's useful in guild battles), I'll leave it to your decision (or guild order) :)

PS: adding health will slow your building progress in hunting and battling.

VersionsOfViolence
04-17-2012, 03:51 AM
Total SP's per level are down considerably for ios players compared to our FB counterparts. This should change a bit soon, once the Devs bring us Demi-quests. You wanna be more effective in Guild Battles? Work on leveling up your classes by joining Bahamuts & Alpha Bahamuts, that way you get the full power of your chosen class in GB's. Be warned: it may take a while to get classed up.

Also, make sure that you're as active in GBs as you possibly can be, so that you have plenty of coins to buy Guild Shop items. Again, iOS-only players are at a disadvantage, only having the 1 hour Festival Battles and no 5 hour auto-matches, but do what you can. Invest those coins into Resistances early on, so that the health you do have will last a bit longer, then go for Class Abilities, or Dienara.

Though many people are od'ing on health, a good rule of thumb is to keep it at between 1/3 and 1/2 your level. Do this buy praying to Aurora, to work on her Demi line, but not until Demi-quests are brought to the app, so that you can get more SP's to cover what you've added to health.

adondralyn
04-17-2012, 12:00 PM
IPhone User
LVL 116

379 Energy
185 Stamina
98 Attack
20 defense
103 health

Question is I want to be a good monster hunter. Do I increase stamina to 300 and then work on attack or is 200 stamina enough? Still doing Azeron demi till the sword, but then who do I switch to?

thanks

ps. please reply very curious if Im doing this wrong...

n3r086
04-17-2012, 12:17 PM
IPhone User
LVL 116

379 Energy
185 Stamina
98 Attack
20 defense
103 health

Question is I want to be a good monster hunter. Do I increase stamina to 300 and then work on attack or is 200 stamina enough? Still doing Azeron demi till the sword, but then who do I switch to?

thanks

ps. please reply very curious if Im doing this wrong...

I can't say that you build your char the wrong way. Everyone has their reasons to do so :)

for your stats:
BSI 1.017241379
LSI 6.456896552

I'd say increase your stamina first then add attack :)
you might want to have more than 300 stamina for hunting ;)

Sinisa
04-18-2012, 09:12 PM
I opened a separate topic, did not see this one. I am primarily monster hunter, but I also do battles, got 5k from invade and duels already completed. Currently somewhere on 37k battle points I dont think it is useful to push that anymore.

Current stats are:

Attack 1110
Defense 300
Energy 300
Stamina 500

Level 311

Opinions?

n3r086
04-19-2012, 12:13 AM
I opened a separate topic, did not see this one. I am primarily monster hunter, but I also do battles, got 5k from invade and duels already completed. Currently somewhere on 37k battle points I dont think it is useful to push that anymore.

Current stats are:

Attack 1110
Defense 300
Energy 300
Stamina 500

Level 311

Opinions?

BSI 4.533762058
LSI 4.180064309

you are balanced hybrid. so, what's your goal first? your path is open wide since you took the middle road :)
but be warned, you are good in PvP and hunting but not great :o

Sinisa
04-19-2012, 08:17 AM
As I said I do pretty much everything. Primarily monster hunting but dueling in festival, conquest, war as well. I was thinking of increasing my damage output but I do not know how much will I need to increase my attack before I will see any noticeable changes? Therefore is it better to put points into stamina?

n3r086
04-19-2012, 10:43 AM
As I said I do pretty much everything. Primarily monster hunting but dueling in festival, conquest, war as well. I was thinking of increasing my damage output but I do not know how much will I need to increase my attack before I will see any noticeable changes? Therefore is it better to put points into stamina?

well, after certain attack point, there will be diminishing return per attack stat (I forgot how much is it... 1200? 1400? 1700?)

you might want to add your attack to 1500 and stamina to 1000 :)
refill are capped to 1000 stamina per 10 FP

I'm not saying you should stop at 1000, you might want to add more later on. More stamina = more hit in monsters :)

in PvP, having too much attack (or defense) is never enough :D

valeriet
04-19-2012, 03:20 PM
how much stamina should i add before adding attack if I want to be a monster hunter ?

i got 201 stamina .. and 8 attack. I'm thinking of getting more stamina before pumping attack.

My theory is that the higher the stamina the more effective per attack point i put in. E.g if I have 500 stamina , 1 attack will increase a lot of damage. If i have 50 stamina even 10 attack wouldn't see significant improvement ?

and What is the attack i should aim for before going back to stamina as i heard monster hunter will never have enough stamina ?

Pros and veteran please give me your opinion.

n3r086
04-19-2012, 03:44 PM
how much stamina should i add before adding attack if I want to be a monster hunter ?

i got 201 stamina .. and 8 attack. I'm thinking of getting more stamina before pumping attack.

My theory is that the higher the stamina the more effective per attack point i put in. E.g if I have 500 stamina , 1 attack will increase a lot of damage. If i have 50 stamina even 10 attack wouldn't see significant improvement ?

and What is the attack i should aim for before going back to stamina as i heard monster hunter will never have enough stamina ?

Pros and veteran please give me your opinion.

do you mind posting your stats here? so we know your build is and then suggest you on the direction you'll be heading? :)

having more stamina means you'll get more chance to do the hitting.

if you have 500 stamina, you can do 10x 50 stamina hits
if you have 1000 stamina, you can do 20x 50 stamina hits

each point of attack is calculated in the damage

say:
1 attack = 200 damage
10 attack = 2000 damage
200 attack = 40000 damage

at certain point, there will be a diminishing return per point of attack stat, so, it's linear until certain point (can someone please confirm this? I suck at wizard-level math :p)

you may want to have at least 1000 stamina for monster hunting (unless you're not planning to use refills on your journey -- 10 FP refill is capped to 1000 stamina atm).
it's true, as a monster hunter, too much stamina is never enough.

For starters:
about stamina, try getting 300 first
on attack, 500 might be a good target :)

valeriet
04-19-2012, 03:59 PM
1016 Max Energy -- Do more quests
201 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
10 Attack -- Offensive might
7 Defense -- Defense power
103 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

170

Tugglife
04-19-2012, 11:34 PM
New player here

Level 15

Energy 76
Stamina 24
Attack 11
Defense 11
Health 101

I'm going to be primarily a PvP player but would also like to be okay at monster hunting if possible. Can anyone provide a brief outline in which stats I should pump up and in what order? Am I right in thinking I should get my energy and stamina up to ~200 each before getting attack/defense as my highest stats?

Also, I noticed a lot of you guys are VERY highly leveled. I'm leveling up primarily by questing with a bit of EXP from PvP and even at this low level I'm finding the going fairly slow. Should I stick with this method or is there something I am missing?

n3r086
04-19-2012, 11:58 PM
1016 Max Energy -- Do more quests
201 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
10 Attack -- Offensive might
7 Defense -- Defense power
103 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

170

woah, you are power leveler
BSI 0.1
LSI 8.341176471

I'd say add stamina first to say at least 300 then add attack. as a monster hunter, you may want to have more than 300 stamina, but I'll leave that to your discretion. just keep in mind that more stamina = more hits in monsters while more attack points = more damage per stamina :)


New player here
Level 15

Energy 76
Stamina 24
Attack 11
Defense 11
Health 101

I'm going to be primarily a PvP player but would also like to be okay at monster hunting if possible. Can anyone provide a brief outline in which stats I should pump up and in what order? Am I right in thinking I should get my energy and stamina up to ~200 each before getting attack/defense as my highest stats?

Also, I noticed a lot of you guys are VERY highly leveled. I'm leveling up primarily by questing with a bit of EXP from PvP and even at this low level I'm finding the going fairly slow. Should I stick with this method or is there something I am missing?

as PvP, you wont be "okay" with monsters (well, maybe okay with the first few monsters, but definitely not with 300M+ HP monsters).
if you want to be "okay" in both world (PvP and monster hunting), you may want to become a hybrid.

if you want to be a better PvP-er, add attack and defense.
if you want to be a better hunter, add stamina and attack
if you want to speed up your quests, add energy

back to your stats, if you want to become a PvP-er early on, add energy first to say 150 (144 = 12 h, you may check your accout twice a day) then start adding attack or defense (there are various builds in PvP, but I wont go into details in here). Why energy? PvP-er relies on gaining SPs through quests :) (and also daily demi blessing)

on stamina, this is optional, but if you're uncomfortable with your current 24, you may want to increase it to 150 or 144 too :)

PvP-er are known to have the slowest leveling-up time, and if they can make it slower, they would do so :p
(I myself was hybrid turned to PvP-er now)

if you don't like to level very slow, you might want to become a hybrid instead, good in PvP and monster hunting but certainly not best in both world

note on level:
Level does not constitute someone's PvP strength

valeriet
04-20-2012, 05:08 AM
Would I be right to say that pumping stamina gives higher returns after leveling (Auto-refill) and attack with give me better returns during regen from the downtime between levels ?

Thus I should get some attack after 300stm as to deal more damage during downtimes ?

n3r086
04-20-2012, 10:47 AM
Would I be right to say that pumping stamina gives higher returns after leveling (Auto-refill) and attack with give me better returns during regen from the downtime between levels ?

Thus I should get some attack after 300stm as to deal more damage during downtimes ?

essentially yes.

when leveling up, you get full stamina refill thus enabling you to deal more hits to the monster you're in :)

Parzival
04-20-2012, 05:14 PM
Hi everybody,
been playing for quite a while now and the last couple of months I've been focusing on att & def and I'm now wondering whether to pursue that further or shifting to stamina again.

Lvl 457

401 Max Energy
600 Max Stamina
1210 Attack
1210 Defense
175 Max Health

I am somewhat active in my guild, both in battle and monsters and feel quite comfortable in being stronger than the average CA player in battle while still being able to contribute appropriately to most monsters.

So - what do you think? Continue boosting BSI (stay balanced with that?) or add more to stamina, or even energy or health?

Looking forward to your opinions ;-)

Bristolen
04-21-2012, 05:59 AM
well the big question is parzival...how efficient do you want to be?

the uber efficient types would tell you to not add to energy because youve already leveled up over 450 times without that energy (leveling up/refilling is where a large energy stat shines).

the nonefficient types would say, add to energy so you can do more quests/get more SPs faster, level up at decent pace, etc.
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since you seem to be a hybrid. depending on your route:

1) throw all your SPs into energy for a while, at least to 725 to get that last feat (and only if you really are big into using energy on monsters/questing a lot)....to better your SP acquisition rate.

or

2) split the SPs you gain by funneling them into stamina, attack, and defense (since you seem to want to keep attack/defense balanced)....to improve your abilities in monsters and pvp at same time.

or

3) funnel all your SPs into stamina until you reach 750 max stamina, then switch back to attack/defense for awhile....to improve your abilities in monsters, while holding off on being better in pvp for awhile.

heeroyuy124
04-21-2012, 09:55 AM
level 562
1000 Max Energy
904 Max Stamina
1377 Attack
1100 Defense
155 Max Health

any advice for me if i wanna go for pvp?
how to get more skill points without spending cc ?

n3r086
04-23-2012, 01:29 PM
Hi everybody,
been playing for quite a while now and the last couple of months I've been focusing on att & def and I'm now wondering whether to pursue that further or shifting to stamina again.

Lvl 457

401 Max Energy
600 Max Stamina
1210 Attack
1210 Defense
175 Max Health

I am somewhat active in my guild, both in battle and monsters and feel quite comfortable in being stronger than the average CA player in battle while still being able to contribute appropriately to most monsters.

So - what do you think? Continue boosting BSI (stay balanced with that?) or add more to stamina, or even energy or health?

Looking forward to your opinions ;-)

BSI 5.295404814
LSI 3.503282276

If I were you or in your position, I'll increase BSI even more. You already have enough (or maybe too much) energy and stamina -- from PvP-er POV.

About being balanced or not, well, it's your choice ;)
But from my personal experience (I was balanced until 1 month ago, decided to go cannon now) being balanced, you are so-so in PvP. You can't reach very high, you can't defend well from cannons (although you are still better than your peers). I personally think it's better to go cannon or wall, but that's my 2 cents ;)



level 562
1000 Max Energy
904 Max Stamina
1377 Attack
1100 Defense
155 Max Health

any advice for me if i wanna go for pvp?
how to get more skill points without spending cc ?

BSI 4.40747331
LSI 4.996441281

wanna go PvP? add attack or defense.
I assume you hunt monsters a lot. Getting 1500 attack is a good start :)

for SPs, have you cleared all the quests? up to level 4 and the sub-quests too? demi quests? atlantis?
check your achievement page to see the achievement you have yet to complete.
check your gold medals
check your PvP rank in normal ladder, FD ladder, CB ladder.
check your guild achievements (5K wood, 5K Iron, ability achievement, etc etc)
check your tower of transcendence tier (in both tower)

Free SPs are all around us now :)

wallymountz
04-24-2012, 02:57 AM
Hi folks:

I've been playing this for months and I seem to get nowhere. I've searched the forums and read post after post, but I just don't understand.

I'm level 293. My strongest General is Araxis rated 19/19. Here are my stats:
999 (-25) Max Energy
301 (+10) Max Stamina
163 Attack
301 Defense
159 Max Health
20 Army Size

I lose 95% of the battles that I'm challenged to. I only really do quests and monster hunting. I don't understand how to increase my attack and defense.

I don't have any friends playing this game and I don't want to clutter up my Facebook with a bunch of people I don't even know to build up an army. If I'm on an impossible path, please just advise me.

Thanks for any thoughts you have.

khraali
04-24-2012, 10:21 AM
I am a monster hunter
level 115
181 Max Energy
190 Max Stamina
184 Attack
90 Defense
104 Max Health
I have no Idea how should be a monster hunter,I tought I need more Stamina xD so anyone can tell me how should be a monster hunter ?
also which general I should buy, well I aleardy bought Feredir

Ginger The Hutt
04-24-2012, 11:49 AM
999 (-25) Max Energy
301 (+10) Max Stamina
163 Attack
301 Defense
159 Max Health
20 Army Size

I lose 95% of the battles that I'm challenged to. I only really do quests and monster hunting. I don't understand how to increase my attack and defense..

instead of clicking the '+1' next to energy - you instead click the '+1' next to attack or defence when you have sp's to spend.

The reason you lose is because you essentially have no att and def.

You're not on an impossible path. Far from it. you have an awesome energy pool and a good sized stamina pool for hunting/levelling. This is a good starting place to begin a more hybrid build - but it'll take time with you praying daily to malekus or corvi and adding the majority of your sp's to att and def for the time being.

To put it into perspective: I'd estimate that the average build in CA is BSI ( BSI is equal to your att + your def and that total divided by your level) 4ish. You have a BSI of 1.6. So for your level most other players have an att + def total of around 1200. your advantage right now is you'll gain points quicker than they will.

adam ahman
04-24-2012, 11:58 AM
instead of clicking the '+1' next to energy - you instead click the '+1' next to attack or defence when you have sp's to spend.

The reason you lose is because you essentially have no att and def.

You're not on an impossible path. Far from it. you have an awesome energy pool and a good sized stamina pool for hunting/levelling. This is a good starting place to begin a more hybrid build - but it'll take time with you praying daily to malekus or corvi and adding the majority of your sp's to att and def for the time being.

To put it into perspective: I'd estimate that the average build in CA is BSI ( BSI is equal to your att + your def and that total divided by your level) 4ish. You have a BSI of 1.6. So for your level most other players have an att + def total of around 1200. your advantage right now is you'll gain points quicker than they will.

Ninja'D by the Hutt...wallymountz take his advice. ;)

Ginger The Hutt
04-24-2012, 12:04 PM
Ninja'D by the Hutt...wallymountz take his advice. ;)

I was just reading yours and was about to say snap... but your post disappeared... :p

khraali
04-24-2012, 12:24 PM
well anyone can help me ? :)

Ginger The Hutt
04-24-2012, 12:34 PM
I am a monster hunter
level 115
181 Max Energy
190 Max Stamina
184 Attack
90 Defense
104 Max Health
I have no Idea how should be a monster hunter,I tought I need more Stamina xD so anyone can tell me how should be a monster hunter ?
also which general I should buy, well I aleardy bought Feredir

ok - to monster hunt - you need energy for the party health bar. You also need stamina to actually hit them.

att and def have diminishing returns once you get past about 800ish of each. so 800 att & 800 def, infinite stamina and lots of energy.

As for general - maalvus is a very tasty general for hunters.

valeriet
04-24-2012, 01:38 PM
I have 2 questions
1)how much do you mean by lots of energy ? Is 1000 enough ?

2)Can you stop at 725 for the achievement in both atk and def ? Or it is still more ideal to go to 800 ?

Ginger The Hutt
04-24-2012, 03:24 PM
I have 2 questions
1)how much do you mean by lots of energy ? Is 1000 enough ?

2)Can you stop at 725 for the achievement in both atk and def ? Or it is still more ideal to go to 800 ?

Before I answer this - you should know that I have what most would consider a PvP build. Therefore this is advice and you're free to ignore it or take it digest it and act upon it as you please.

1. If you're intending to hunt lots of monster - eventually you'll be hunting big monsters. They require energy to clean up ones own mess and to generally keep the party healthy. 1000 energy would be enough in my opinion for a hunter. It'll get your quests done and leave you plenty to play with.

2. Stop whenever you like. I guess the idea of the festival feats are to help shape players into a more 'mainstream hybrid' build which wont excel at any one point of the game - but will leave you with a moderately balanced build for you to further develop. so yes I'd take it 725. If you think that's enough when you get there - cool. if not keep adding. :)

n3r086
04-24-2012, 03:30 PM
Hi folks:

I've been playing this for months and I seem to get nowhere. I've searched the forums and read post after post, but I just don't understand.

I'm level 293. My strongest General is Araxis rated 19/19. Here are my stats:
999 (-25) Max Energy
301 (+10) Max Stamina
163 Attack
301 Defense
159 Max Health
20 Army Size

I lose 95% of the battles that I'm challenged to. I only really do quests and monster hunting. I don't understand how to increase my attack and defense.

I don't have any friends playing this game and I don't want to clutter up my Facebook with a bunch of people I don't even know to build up an army. If I'm on an impossible path, please just advise me.

Thanks for any thoughts you have.

BSI 1.583617747
LSI 5.464163823

if you don't do PvP, don't mind your battle feed ;)
You are building as power leveler. If you want to be a hunter, I suggest adding stamina to 500 and attack to 300 first. it's okay to play without having too much army, but if you want to add more (at least to help you invade someone), try joining a guild :)

about your general, if you have Favor Points (FP), you might want to get Maalvus or Dolomar and Kanbe. there are plenty of good general and worth buying these days, and if you're feeling lucky, try rolling on a chest to get epic general(s).



I am a monster hunter
level 115
181 Max Energy
190 Max Stamina
184 Attack
90 Defense
104 Max Health
I have no Idea how should be a monster hunter,I tought I need more Stamina xD so anyone can tell me how should be a monster hunter ?
also which general I should buy, well I aleardy bought Feredir

BSI 2.382608696
LSI 4.87826087

generally, monster hunters excels in stamina and attack department. If you aim to become more effective in hunting, add to those 2 department ;)
for your current stat, I suggest getting stamina to 360 (tower feat) then attack to at least 300-500. After you achieved that, you might want to add a little bit of energy and defense so you can heal/strengthen/deflect/cripple better.

for energy, I'd suggest getting it to 375 (tower feat) and defense to at least 300.

Feredir is good against Urmek. Get Dolomar or Maalvus, or if you're lucky, Orc King.



I have 2 questions
1)how much do you mean by lots of energy ? Is 1000 enough ?

2)Can you stop at 725 for the achievement in both atk and def ? Or it is still more ideal to go to 800 ?

well, energy refill is capped at 2000 per 10 FP. you might want to got to that point. It's not wrong if you want to go over than 2000. I know some forumites have passed that point :)
my personal opinion: 2000 is enough

for attack and defense, you can go more than that, like 1000 then stop, use other SPs on stamina/energy (if you're hunting), but if you do PvP, too much attack/defense is never enough

valeriet
04-24-2012, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the advice. I think i'll eventually get to 2k energy. Doesn't make sense to waste energy when refilling. :) And at the end of the day when I'm done with all the quest I can fortify / dispell monster to get extra loots. If I deal 1m in dispel it's as good as 1m in damage for the loot system right ?

n3r086
04-24-2012, 03:44 PM
Thanks for the advice. I think i'll eventually get to 2k energy. Doesn't make sense to waste energy when refilling. :) And at the end of the day when I'm done with all the quest I can fortify / dispell monster to get extra loots. If I deal 1m in dispel it's as good as 1m in damage for the loot system right ?

you can use your excess energy in doing atlantis II quests (Krakens and alchemy parts for SPs) and the cave of wonder quest (forgot what the loot is) :)
it is timed quests --- most of us called it energy sink quests :eek:

khraali
04-24-2012, 10:15 PM
I understand ^^
well thank you guys ;)

wallymountz
04-25-2012, 12:40 AM
This is perfectly clear now. Thanks so much and I know what to do now.

N00b
04-26-2012, 07:09 PM
looking for advice wanting to be a hybrid build more towards monster hunting and still be able to help guild out in battles
Level 195
426 energy
213 stam
352 attack
86 defence
105 health

thanks

zserg
04-26-2012, 08:53 PM
Keep a fixed BSI. Somewhere between 3 and 4 and add rest to stam or energy.

BSI=(attack+def)/lvl

n3r086
04-27-2012, 02:36 AM
looking for advice wanting to be a hybrid build more towards monster hunting and still be able to help guild out in battles
Level 195
426 energy
213 stam
352 attack
86 defence
105 health

thanks

BSI 2,246153846
LSI 4,369230769

for now, you might want to add more to attack (say 500), defense to 100-200 to become more effective doing energy type actions in monsters and some stamina (to 288 or 300). After that, try balancing your BSI and LSI :)

Maalvis
04-29-2012, 03:55 PM
Shld i spend on stamina or continue to increase my attack?
lv302
Att 1118
def 625
energy 172
stamina 179

Dodge
04-29-2012, 09:00 PM
Energy: 219

Stamina: 123

Attack: 201

Def: 38

Health: 131

I'm level 107. I have started to do more monster battles
So I have begun to increase my attack stats. How should I proceed
From here?

Ineluki
04-29-2012, 09:59 PM
Keep a fixed BSI. Somewhere between 3 and 4 and add rest to stam or energy.

BSI=(attack+def)/lvl

Great advice for monster hunting.

dumgum
04-30-2012, 01:27 AM
Lvl : 341
Energy : 380
Stamina : 80
Attack : 548
Defence : 2353

I've been praying for defence and adding 2 skill points to attack and 3 to defence whenever I level up. Other skill points I get from questing I add em to def as well. However, I find myself progressing too slow for guild battles.

Should I continue adding 2/3 to atk/def or 1/4 to atk/def or...? I intend to continue doing so until I reach 1000 attack and then stop adding to it. Focus on def afterwards. And should I continue praying for def or change it to attack or something else? Or should I start pumping into energy and stamina instead and start rushing for levels?

Hope I don't sound confusing and thanks for the help!

n3r086
04-30-2012, 01:55 AM
Shld i spend on stamina or continue to increase my attack?
lv302
Att 1118
def 625
energy 172
stamina 179

BSI 5,771523179
LSI 1,754966887

depends on what you want to achieve
if you intend to continue on PvP road, keep adding attack (or defense to 725 -- tower feat achievement)
if you log in to CA every 12 h, I think that amount of stamina is enough
hint: stamina tower feat at 180 (only 1 more point in that)



Energy: 219
Stamina: 123
Attack: 201
Def: 38
Health: 131

I'm level 107. I have started to do more monster battles
So I have begun to increase my attack stats. How should I proceed
From here?

BSI 2,23364486
LSI 4,345794393

If you aim to become a monster hunter, I suggest adding stamina to 300 (more hits in monsters). Increase attack to at least 500, defense to at least 200 :)


Lvl : 341
Energy : 380
Stamina : 80
Attack : 548
Defence : 2353

I've been praying for defence and adding 2 skill points to attack and 3 to defence whenever I level up. Other skill points I get from questing I add em to def as well. However, I find myself progressing too slow for guild battles.

Should I continue adding 2/3 to atk/def or 1/4 to atk/def or...? I intend to continue doing so until I reach 1000 attack and then stop adding to it. Focus on def afterwards. And should I continue praying for def or change it to attack or something else? Or should I start pumping into energy and stamina instead and start rushing for levels?

Hope I don't sound confusing and thanks for the help!

BSI 8,507331378 <<<< :eek:
LSI 1,583577713

nice build!
well, as PvP build, we level extremely slow.
If you can't stand the slow leveling, you may want to change your build.

For guild battles, you can't reach very high, but your opponents will have hard time to win over you as well.
about SP allocation, it depends on your preference and goal actually. (hint: attack feat achievement at 725)
for demi praying, have you completed every demi-god (to get the demi quests and items)?
if yes, you might want to keep praying to corvintheus

dumgum
04-30-2012, 02:26 AM
Alright. Thanks for the suggestions and advices !

adam ahman
04-30-2012, 12:50 PM
I find myself progressing too slow for guild battles.


I have 2400 in def, just a little more than you.
I like def too. :)
But, when we talk about leveling, thats a whole other story.
I have alot of respect for high BSI builds, it takes a special kind of patience.
In my opinion you will have to start adding to stamina a bit more.
I haven't considered myself a pvp build for a very very long time (2yrs).
Being a great guild fighter takes alot of health and att/def.
Looks to me like u need Xira or Evalice.
My advice, give into stamina at least til 120.
You'll waste alot less regeneration time. ;)

Robdicate
05-01-2012, 12:00 AM
Alright so I have a huge question about PvP that is vital to gameplay, yet there seems to be some dispute about.

The game always mention that 70% of defense goes in to attack and vice versa. Obviously that's true, but it has to be true only for the actual damage, and not the outcome of the battle, right?

It's difficult for me to explain, so I'll give you an example.

let's say that my stats are 100 attack and 100 defense and I want to duel. The person I end up dueling has 600 attack and only 50 defense. I believe that I would win that, since I have more attack than they have defense.

If I am wrong, then attack and defense could be calculated by morphing the two together. If we use heroes to simplify the morph and compare heroes, it wouldn't make sense. You would get:

Celeste: 12/12
12 x .7 = 8.4 8.4 + 12 = 20.4

Vanquish: 15/14 +20attk -25 defense
14 x .7 = 9.8 -25 x .7 = -17.5 9.8 + 15 - 17.5 = 7.3

What that means is that Vanquish is only worth the same as Cid, or any other hero with a 3/4 ratio. that cannot be true.

Sure in a monster battle you may do more damage with Celeste, but in a duel you could lose.

does that make any sense?

Robdicate
05-01-2012, 02:39 AM
I guess what I mean is, if a person has 10 attk and 5000 def, would s/he lose every offensive attack?

Ineluki
05-01-2012, 02:50 AM
I guess what I mean is, if a person has 10 attk and 5000 def, would s/he lose every offensive attack?

Someone with 10 attack and 5000 def would have 10 + .7(5000) = 3510 effective attack and .7(10) + 5000 = 5007 effective defense. It's your effective attack and defense that matter for PVP, not the raw stat.

Ginger The Hutt
05-01-2012, 09:08 AM
let's say that my stats are 100 attack and 100 defense and I want to duel. The person I end up dueling has 600 attack and only 50 defense. I believe that I would win that, since I have more attack than they have defense.



You are wrong. sorry. Here's how it's worked out:

Using your examples:

your have an effective attack: 100 attack + 70% of your 100 defence = eatt 170

vice versa to work out your edef. which also equals 170.

your opponent with 600 att and 50 def. has an eatt of 600+70%(50) = 635 eatt.
They have an edef of 70%(600)+50=470.
As you can see their effective numbers far exceed your own both ways - thus you should lose every time no matter whether you attack or defend.

sidodoll
05-01-2012, 09:56 AM
level 90
attack: 240
def: 103
energy: 120
stamina : 90
health : 104

i confuse when i attacking orc master i just deal 3000 damage
but when my army help me he deal 12000 damage he level 88 and 300 attack status
it just difference 60 attack status but it more difference damage
so what factors affect the attack??

Ginger The Hutt
05-01-2012, 10:14 AM
there is speculation that lots of monsters have tiered damage ranks on them.

so once you hit the magic number of the tier - your damage goes up massively.

The other option is your friend is using a stamina multiplier general - ie ork king or malvus - these generals use more stamina to do more damage in one hit.

Robdicate
05-01-2012, 04:19 PM
It's your effective attack and defense that matter for PVP, not the raw stat.

So then vanquish is really a worthless hero?

wraith
05-01-2012, 04:56 PM
So then vanquish is really a worthless hero?
Why look at Vanquish's stats when you are defending? With his +20 A and -25 D, she would obviously be a poor choice as a defending general.

For attacking in pvp, Vanquish is one of the best choices as general among heroes you can unlock by just questing. Her +20 attack can also be useful early on in monster hunting when you are just reaching the attack threshold where your damage doubles.

At the end of the day though, most of the early generals (with a few exceptions) you can unlock by questing will be useless anyway compared to monthly or chest generals with similar abilities that you can obtain using Favor Points.

Robdicate
05-01-2012, 07:16 PM
Why look at Vanquish's stats when you are defending?

Well I had a theory that battles were won and lost because of raw stats. AKA attk vs. def instead of (attk + .7def) vs (.7attk + def). I was wrong, and thank you to every one who gave me advice!

I'm not sure if this will interest you, but I took the stats of some heroes I see used fairly often in guild battles, monsters, and duels, and busted out the formula to compare attack powers of each.

As you will see, Vanquish and Celesta are fairly close when attacking, so using celesta instead of Vanquish is reasonable in monster battles and a little more risky (still only 2 points worth) in PvP.

Even though anyone can look at Vanquish's stats and see she is built for attack power, I think it's important to see these numbers and how they actually play out. This way you know exactly what you are getting into instead of half-guessing. It would be interesting to see this done with other epic heroes to see if there are any more powerful than vanquish, or more defensive than celesta. There probably are, but I haven't seen one yet.


Vanquish's attack stats: 15attk + (.7 x 14def) + 20 attk + (.7 x -25def) =

44.8 - 17.5 = 27.3


Celesta's attack stats: 12 attk + (.7 x 12def) + (.7 x 7) =

20.4 + 4.9 = 25.3


Leon's attack stats: 13 attk + (.7 x 17def) = 24.9


Lilith's and Riku's attack stats: 8attk + (.7 x 9def) + 5 = 19.3


Araxis attack stats: 14attk + (.7 x 16def) = 25.2

Vanquish vs. Celesta

Vanquish = 27.3
Celesta = (.7 x 12attk) + 15 + 12 = 35.4

Thanks again for the guidance, I'll put the info to good use!

dumgum
05-02-2012, 04:10 PM
I have 2400 in def, just a little more than you.
I like def too. :)
But, when we talk about leveling, thats a whole other story.
I have alot of respect for high BSI builds, it takes a special kind of patience.
In my opinion you will have to start adding to stamina a bit more.
I haven't considered myself a pvp build for a very very long time (2yrs).
Being a great guild fighter takes alot of health and att/def.
Looks to me like u need Xira or Evalice.
My advice, give into stamina at least til 120.
You'll waste alot less regeneration time. ;)

Opps. Sorry for the late reply. Wasn't expecting another person to comment. Yeahh def is great. Thanks for the advice and suggestions.

KingCarlton
05-02-2012, 07:54 PM
Where do I get loot drops for creating Cartigan and Ironheart???? And why can't I create a new thread here?

adam61
05-05-2012, 01:48 PM
Level 175
attack: 56
def: 6
energy: 555
stamina : 425
health : 101

Started out power leveling and moving more into monster hunting. I've finished the easiest monster achievements and wondering if I should start switching to divine monsters or continue on killing monsters that have items I won't really use for long. I've just about finished with Kromash and Shardros so it would either start on Glacius or Jahanna at this point. I utilize Dolomar primarily for monster hunting.

What's a good stopping point for energy? And what ratio into energy/sta/atk should I use at this level? I'm typically doing about 1 energy or 1 atk and about 3 sta each level. I haven't really noticed the effect of atk yet, I seem to get more results out of sta pumping. I know there are minimums to start seeing bigger damage increases, but I couldn't figure out where they were.

Just seeing if I'm on the right course or need to do a 180 midstream here.

Abby_Abby
05-05-2012, 10:08 PM
Hi,

I wanna be an effective Mage in Guild battle and Fest battle.

Where should I put my skill points ?

I am at lvl 15 now
Energy 51
Stamina 26
Attack 10
Defense 40
Health 100

Thank you

Whodini~
05-05-2012, 10:45 PM
Level 90
Cleric in Guild Battles

Energy 242 (Praying to Ambrosia)
Stamina 83
Attack 30
Defense 355
Health 130

What i'm attempting to do is get 288 stam / energy and then stop and allocate skill points to pvp stats. Will this work for a cleric? Should i be keeping making this "wall" build? Or do i need attack at some point?

n3r086
05-06-2012, 02:45 AM
Level 175
attack: 56
def: 6
energy: 555
stamina : 425
health : 101

Started out power leveling and moving more into monster hunting. I've finished the easiest monster achievements and wondering if I should start switching to divine monsters or continue on killing monsters that have items I won't really use for long. I've just about finished with Kromash and Shardros so it would either start on Glacius or Jahanna at this point. I utilize Dolomar primarily for monster hunting.

What's a good stopping point for energy? And what ratio into energy/sta/atk should I use at this level? I'm typically doing about 1 energy or 1 atk and about 3 sta each level. I haven't really noticed the effect of atk yet, I seem to get more results out of sta pumping. I know there are minimums to start seeing bigger damage increases, but I couldn't figure out where they were.

Just seeing if I'm on the right course or need to do a 180 midstream here.

BSI 0,354285714
LSI 8,028571429

for you, I wont recommend tackling down divine monsters. your attack and defense are just too low for those big monsters. I'd recommend you to add more attack and defense, you'll notice the difference later on. for attack, I'd suggest getting it to 300 first and defense to 100, or you might want to try 300/300 build :)

you have a good LSI for leveler, you might want to maintain it (say at 8 or 7.5) so you can allocate spare SPs to other stats.

you only notice better damage because you leveled when attacking. If not leveling during a monster fight, you'll notice a hell lot of difference in your total damage.

stopping point for energy? well, if you want to maintain your LSI, too much is never enough. personally, I'd stop once I have 2000 energy (refill cap point), adding the spare SPs to stamina. But you can always add more if you wish to do so. for stamina, the refill cap is at 1000 stamina, but as a monster hunter, I'll add more than that (PS: I'm not a monster hunter, not even close, that's based on my observation)

FYI: for divine monsters, Jahanna is a good start, then you can work on the giants or Aurora.



Hi,

I wanna be an effective Mage in Guild battle and Fest battle.

Where should I put my skill points ?

I am at lvl 15 now
Energy 51
Stamina 26
Attack 10
Defense 40
Health 100

Thank you

BSI 3,333333333
LSI 6,866666667

now this is tricky... normally people at your level don't ask about guild battle.

basically, guild battle is based on your PvP stats (attack and defense). your PvP strength is used to determine the outcome of a duel between you and your target regardless of classes (PS: I didn't include stat buffs or stat-shifting generals in the equation). the battle pits your effective attack (EA) to your enemy's effective defense (ED)

EA = attack + 0.7*defense (for your case, your EA = 38)
ED = defense + 0.7*attack (for your case, your ED = 47)

So, if you want to be a better battler, increase your attack and defense (or health to absorb more damage/tokens before getting stunned). you have the option to be offensive (adding more to attack) or defensive (adding more to defense). For mage class, I prefer being offensive, so I can use polymorph and confuse efficiently (those are 2 guild abilities most used by a mage).

polymorph increases your EA by 25% then pits it with the enemy ED
confuse increases your EA by 50% then pits it with the enemy ED
*the % is based by players' research, devs never announced the official %

the explanation of mages can go a long winding road, I suggest you read some of the info in wikia (http://castleage.wikia.com/wiki/Guild_Class)
-----------------
now for your general stat..

what is your preference? being PvP-er? monster hunter (MH-er)? power leveler (PL-er)? hybird?

to summarize those builds:
PvP-er: excels in combat (normally duels and guild battles, sometimes invades), prefers BSI to LSI, extremely slow leveling speed
MH-er: excels in killing monsters, preference in stamina and attack, good to mediocre leveling (based on your stat allocation), somewhat good in duel, invade and guild battles
PL-er: great leveling speed, low attack and defense (at earlier stage), good at hunting monsters
hybrid: mediocre at everything, but can enjoy the most part of the game

AND, choose the build that gives you the fun and enjoyment of the game the most. there is no right or wrong build.


Level 90
Cleric in Guild Battles

Energy 242 (Praying to Ambrosia)
Stamina 83
Attack 30
Defense 355
Health 130

What i'm attempting to do is get 288 stam / energy and then stop and allocate skill points to pvp stats. Will this work for a cleric? Should i be keeping making this "wall" build? Or do i need attack at some point?

BSI 4,277777778
LSI 4,533333333

for PvP-er, IMO 288 stam is too much. you can always log in every 12 h to use your energy and stamina. But if you can't, going for 288 (or 300 -- round numbers) is good too.
for your guild class preference (cleric), it depends on how you want to be, offensive? defensive?

if you enjoy being offensive, add attack
if you enjoy being defensive, add defense

how much? for PvP-er, too much attack or defense is never enough :D

n3r086
05-06-2012, 03:11 AM
Where do I get loot drops for creating Cartigan and Ironheart???? And why can't I create a new thread here?

Cartigan: http://castleage.wikia.com/wiki/Cartigan
Leon Ironheart: http://castleage.wikia.com/wiki/Leon_Ironhart

get Cartigan's alchemy parts in quest (underworld)
get Leon's alchemy parts in battle of the dark legion

you can't create a new thread if your post count is low (idk, maybe 5 or 10, I forgot)

Whodini~
05-06-2012, 04:46 AM
So what stam should i stop at?
And what energy should i stop at?

I want to be a defensive tank in pvp.

Thanks!

VanDavian
05-06-2012, 05:25 AM
So what stam should i stop at?
And what energy should i stop at?

I want to be a defensive tank in pvp.

Thanks!

It depends. If you're logging on every 12 hours you will only need about 12 hours of stamina, any more would be pointless. Same as if you were to log on very 5 hours, why would you keep 20 hours of stam? lol

I'm not sure about energy, it's up to you how slow you want to lvl up. I say have at least 500 - 600 energy, so lvling wont be too slow.

I see a few ways you can be a pvp tank. Add everything onto attack and barely anything onto defence, if you have the general Halcyon. Do the reverse if you have Xira. Or else, you could join the rare breed of brick walls and add onto nothing but defence, indefinitely. However, being a pvp also assumes your ability to attack, so brick wall build is not advised. I recommend you build attack and defence, with a bias towards defence. How much bias is up to you. For example: My build makes good use of defence:

1,430 attack

529 defence (+ 357 with Halcyon equipped)

So if I keep adding to attack, my maximum defence goes up as well while still being able to kick ass offensively. I have more defence than most glass cannon builds, but less than a brick wall. However I have the luxury of being able to fight back.

Whodini~
05-06-2012, 07:01 AM
It depends. If you're logging on every 12 hours you will only need about 12 hours of stamina, any more would be pointless. Same as if you were to log on very 5 hours, why would you keep 20 hours of stam? lol

I'm not sure about energy, it's up to you how slow you want to lvl up. I say have at least 500 - 600 energy, so lvling wont be too slow.

I see a few ways you can be a pvp tank. Add everything onto attack and barely anything onto defence, if you have the general Halcyon. Do the reverse if you have Xira. Or else, you could join the rare breed of brick walls and add onto nothing but defence, indefinitely. However, being a pvp also assumes your ability to attack, so brick wall build is not advised. I recommend you build attack and defence, with a bias towards defence. How much bias is up to you. For example: My build makes good use of defence:

1,430 attack

529 defence (+ 357 with Halcyon equipped)

So if I keep adding to attack, my maximum defence goes up as well while still being able to kick ass offensively. I have more defence than most glass cannon builds, but less than a brick wall. However I have the luxury of being able to fight back.

Wow nice reply! You rock.

One of the reasons i wanted to have 288 stam / energy was to level up faster, and also if for some reason i was busy at work and couldn't log on all day, i would not be wasting stam/energy and it would be fully charging since its 24 hours worth of stam and energy (288). Perhaps a bit of a hybrid build i might say, one that can level up at a decent speed, but also Be a good wall at the same time and help in guild battles.

I kind of like the wall build, as most people would not be able to beat me, which for some reason makes me smile :)
Although i might not necessary attack back in a duel, i could Invade and win, which is what i have been doing for my battle ranks and conquest ranks so far.

zserg
05-06-2012, 08:35 AM
If you want to be a wall build, the best way to go about it is to well...be a wall.

If you have more attack than defense then you're not a wall.

If you have slightly more def than attack, then you're still not a wall.

If I were you houdini, I'd add some 500 energy, keep stam at 100, then add rest of my points to defense.

I'd also get solara and equip her while afk to have 150 max stam and not lose as much regen. your energy would still be over 400.

You could even go for as much as 730 energy and 100 stam.

Abby_Abby
05-06-2012, 03:28 PM
BSI 3,333333333
LSI 6,866666667

now this is tricky... normally people at your level don't ask about guild battle.

basically, guild battle is based on your PvP stats (attack and defense). your PvP strength is used to determine the outcome of a duel between you and your target regardless of classes (PS: I didn't include stat buffs or stat-shifting generals in the equation). the battle pits your effective attack (EA) to your enemy's effective defense (ED)

EA = attack + 0.7*defense (for your case, your EA = 38)
ED = defense + 0.7*attack (for your case, your ED = 47)

So, if you want to be a better battler, increase your attack and defense (or health to absorb more damage/tokens before getting stunned). you have the option to be offensive (adding more to attack) or defensive (adding more to defense). For mage class, I prefer being offensive, so I can use polymorph and confuse efficiently (those are 2 guild abilities most used by a mage).

polymorph increases your EA by 25% then pits it with the enemy ED
confuse increases your EA by 50% then pits it with the enemy ED
*the % is based by players' research, devs never announced the official %

the explanation of mages can go a long winding road, I suggest you read some of the info in wikia (http://castleage.wikia.com/wiki/Guild_Class)
-----------------
now for your general stat..

what is your preference? being PvP-er? monster hunter (MH-er)? power leveler (PL-er)? hybird?

to summarize those builds:
PvP-er: excels in combat (normally duels and guild battles, sometimes invades), prefers BSI to LSI, extremely slow leveling speed
MH-er: excels in killing monsters, preference in stamina and attack, good to mediocre leveling (based on your stat allocation), somewhat good in duel, invade and guild battles
PL-er: great leveling speed, low attack and defense (at earlier stage), good at hunting monsters
hybrid: mediocre at everything, but can enjoy the most part of the game

AND, choose the build that gives you the fun and enjoyment of the game the most. there is no right or wrong build.


Hi, thank you for the info

I ask you because I already have my main character as a rouge in FB account and this new character in iphone and it will be a mage. so it is extra one, not interested in lvl fast but to become more powerful in dueling :)

Thank you :)

VanDavian
05-07-2012, 03:04 AM
Wow nice reply! You rock.

One of the reasons i wanted to have 288 stam / energy was to level up faster, and also if for some reason i was busy at work and couldn't log on all day, i would not be wasting stam/energy and it would be fully charging since its 24 hours worth of stam and energy (288). Perhaps a bit of a hybrid build i might say, one that can level up at a decent speed, but also Be a good wall at the same time and help in guild battles.

I kind of like the wall build, as most people would not be able to beat me, which for some reason makes me smile :)
Although i might not necessary attack back in a duel, i could Invade and win, which is what i have been doing for my battle ranks and conquest ranks so far.

Fair analysis. As a PvP wall, if you wanted to be in the top percentile, it would mean you end up lvling very slowly, as one of the PvP's aims is to gain as many SP's per lvl as possible. That is one philosophy.

Another philosophy is that you can add a load to stamina and energy to gain an excessively high lvl very fast. At some point you would load everything into defence (or attack) and become much stronger than your slow lvling friends who started when you did. The trade off here is that until you make your high lvl, you will be open to massive attack. Also, you would still be weaker than those who slow lvled their way up to your lvl.

My philosophy is as you say, a balanced build. A hybrid. But this would mean you are neither he best nor the worst at either being a brick wall or a glass cannon. You may as well be a monster hunter. IN fact, a lot of monster hunters turn PvP later on, because the hybrid basis makes a good prerequisite for the PvP build. As a hybrid monster hunter (who use to be a PvP) these are my current stats:

600 Max Energy -- Do more quests
700 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks!
1434 Attack -- Offensive might
520 (+358) Defense -- Defense power
171 Max Health -- Withstand attacks


I lvl up fast enough (every 3 days), I hit for a **** load, I can fend of people 1000 lvls above me and win most of my duels. One thing to note though, is that we all regenerate at the same rate. So eventually, we all slow down a lot - PvP or not.

Whodini~
05-07-2012, 03:40 AM
Fair analysis. As a PvP wall, if you wanted to be in the top percentile, it would mean you end up lvling very slowly, as one of the PvP's aims is to gain as many SP's per lvl as possible. That is one philosophy.

Another philosophy is that you can add a load to stamina and energy to gain an excessively high lvl very fast. At some point you would load everything into defence (or attack) and become much stronger than your slow lvling friends who started when you did. The trade off here is that until you make your high lvl, you will be open to massive attack. Also, you would still be weaker than those who slow lvled their way up to your lvl.

My philosophy is as you say, a balanced build. A hybrid. But this would mean you are neither he best nor the worst at either being a brick wall or a glass cannon. You may as well be a monster hunter. IN fact, a lot of monster hunters turn PvP later on, because the hybrid basis makes a good prerequisite for the PvP build. As a hybrid monster hunter (who use to be a PvP) these are my current stats:

600 Max Energy -- Do more quests
700 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks!
1434 Attack -- Offensive might
520 (+358) Defense -- Defense power
171 Max Health -- Withstand attacks


I lvl up fast enough (every 3 days), I hit for a **** load, I can fend of people 1000 lvls above me and win most of my duels. One thing to note though, is that we all regenerate at the same rate. So eventually, we all slow down a lot - PvP or not.

Yeah i suppose i am more of a hybrid.
What i have been doing is adding 1 to Stam and 3 to Defense every level now for a few levels. However, i'm not sure i will ever add to attack. I'm trying to be a "wall" cleric with high defense / life to help my guild in battles.

Do u think i should eventually add to attack? Perhaps something like 1:4 atk/def ratio?

VanDavian
05-07-2012, 01:17 PM
Yeah i suppose i am more of a hybrid.
What i have been doing is adding 1 to Stam and 3 to Defense every level now for a few levels. However, i'm not sure i will ever add to attack. I'm trying to be a "wall" cleric with high defense / life to help my guild in battles.

Do u think i should eventually add to attack? Perhaps something like 1:4 atk/def ratio?

That sounds like it'll work fine. If cleric and healing is your thing, then adding onto energy may prove more worthwhile, since casting and healing uses energy, not stamina.

You are a rarity! lol

adam ahman
05-07-2012, 01:42 PM
Do u think i should eventually add to attack? Perhaps something like 1:4 atk/def ratio?
I think its cool you wanna help your guild as a cleric wall build.
I prefer def over att too, but some things to consider.

- Sp's are king in this game, end of story.
Theres no use in not being able have access to as many questing sp's as possible.
If you look at my stats, tbh, I still don't have enough energy to keep up with land questing that will forever appear.
Go for at least the cap "2000" energy...imo.

- As well as stamina to at least 1000, best in your level only truly matters until level 300, then you get punished by the unicorns.

- Having a decent att to use the stamina would be beneficial.
Push att til you can at least finish the (att feat) in festival.

- And for def...well, you can never have enough! :cool: ;)

288 is a great idea to get to, but it is only 1 day (afk)...consider thinking in greater amounts of time (afk), I can say this from experience its better in the long run.
Taking the road I have suggested will leave you vulnerable, in pvp, for much longer, but in 6 months to a year, the fruit of your patience will carry a heavier weight of glory forever throughout your CA life.

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1900000/Morpheus-Red-or-Blue-Pill-the-matrix-1957140-500-568.jpg

slifer
05-07-2012, 04:24 PM
Recently i start playing CA after 1-1.5year break.
My stats are:

289lvl
222 energy
207 stamina
1343attack
736defence
163hp

My question how bad are my stats before there wasn't much players my level that can defeat me when i attack them but now...
In festival battle it's almost impossible for me to be able to kick someone above tier4.
My equipment is not so bad(MeatCleaver, SoR, DeathskullPlate, HelmOfDragonPower, MoonfallAmulet, DivineBlast, FistOfAbbadon, FlamewalkerGraves) and i have Kanbe equipped.

adam ahman
05-07-2012, 09:24 PM
Recently i start playing CA after 1-1.5year break.
My stats are:

289lvl
222 energy
207 stamina
1343attack
736defence
163hp

My question how bad are my stats before there wasn't much players my level that can defeat me when i attack them but now...
In festival battle it's almost impossible for me to be able to kick someone above tier4.
My equipment is not so bad(MeatCleaver, SoR, DeathskullPlate, HelmOfDragonPower, MoonfallAmulet, DivineBlast, FistOfAbbadon, FlamewalkerGraves) and i have Kanbe equipped.

Your stats aren't bad at all. :)
There are so many new lands to quest from, and monsters to hunt, so just go have some fun.
Yes, this game is very competitive.
If you haven't, go finish all festy feats you can.
Coming from a MH/PL mentality...I'd say forget about att/def for awhile and get your energy/stamina WAY up!
More energy for questing, and greater stamina for hunting.
No worries mate in no time you be back on track. ;)

Whodini~
05-09-2012, 08:32 PM
Question for you experts out there.

I'm currently designated as a Wall build with 400 defense and 30 attack. I'm going for a cleric and mainly using this character as a guild battle person. Would you think that i should increase my attack so i end up with a 1:4 Attack:Defense ratio would be superior to a wall and more well rounded?

Since my cleric is already level 3, i can heal when i attack too. While i wouldn't be a complete wall, i would have more defense then the average person at my level and i can attack the rogues who are all attack and no defense.

What do u think about Cleric's Stats? How would you Allocate Them to make a superior cleric?

n3r086
05-10-2012, 02:55 AM
Question for you experts out there.

I'm currently designated as a Wall build with 400 defense and 30 attack. I'm going for a cleric and mainly using this character as a guild battle person. Would you think that i should increase my attack so i end up with a 1:4 Attack:Defense ratio would be superior to a wall and more well rounded?

Since my cleric is already level 3, i can heal when i attack too. While i wouldn't be a complete wall, i would have more defense then the average person at my level and i can attack the rogues who are all attack and no defense.

What do u think about Cleric's Stats? How would you Allocate Them to make a superior cleric?

wait wait wait,

you mean you have another character?

Whodini~
05-10-2012, 03:33 AM
wait wait wait,

you mean you have another character?

No. I only have my cleric. I'm noob at this game and i dont even think u can have more than one character....trick question?

All i mean is in an RPG sense its a "character". thats all i meant.

n3r086
05-10-2012, 07:06 AM
No. I only have my cleric. I'm noob at this game and i dont even think u can have more than one character....trick question?

All i mean is in an RPG sense its a "character". thats all i meant.

just curious, that's all


Question for you experts out there.

I'm currently designated as a Wall build with 400 defense and 30 attack. I'm going for a cleric and mainly using this character as a guild battle person. Would you think that i should increase my attack so i end up with a 1:4 Attack:Defense ratio would be superior to a wall and more well rounded?

well, if you want to be a defensive cleric (and spam heal/dispel/resurrect on your guild-mate) then add more to defense, simple as that.

1:3? 1:4? 2:3? it all comes down to your preference. There is no right or wrong build.


Since my cleric is already level 3, i can heal when i attack too. While i wouldn't be a complete wall, i would have more defense then the average person at my level and i can attack the rogues who are all attack and no defense.

What do u think about Cleric's Stats? How would you Allocate Them to make a superior cleric?

Given you have more defense than attack, all you can do is reach down, not up. suppose you can find target with effective defense lower than your effective attack, you can go offensive and get your gate +10 heal (or +14 with Sanna). If you can't find anyone you can beat, you can only wait for bounces and heal spam

for me, being 1:2 is already defensive. 1:4 is hardcore defensive IMO

modernknight87
05-12-2012, 12:54 AM
So my plans are ultimately, in the long run, to go monster hunting. I was thinking about guild battles for a while, but after playing it for a bit, and then doing guild monster battles, I've decided I prefer PvM over PVP.

My stats:

LvL. 159
Energy 330
Stamina 237
Attack 220
Defense 170
Health 164

What would be recommended from this point to get higher in monster hunting? More energy or more focus on Stamina?

redman3233
05-12-2012, 04:39 AM
I wanna be a good monster hunter ive been taking tips from a pvp person and want to see if he has been leading be in a right path. Ive been adding 3 attack and 2 defense everytime i level up is it good for my goal. Sorry if it sounds stupid im a complete noob at this game. thanks


level 341 Lieutenant Commander

1101 Max Energy -- Do more quests

512 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)

441 Attack -- Offensive might

213 Defense -- Defense power

148 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

YHang94
05-12-2012, 09:53 AM
Lv401
849 Max Energy -- Do more quests
650 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
448 Attack -- Offensive might
105 Defense -- Defense power
102 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

Hope to be good monster hunter

YHang94
05-12-2012, 09:54 AM
Forgot to add that I'm using Maalvus for my damage.

Death God
05-12-2012, 03:56 PM
Hi guys I'm new here

I need your help i'm level 130

energy 410
stamina 103
attack 212
defense 74
health 102

I want to be a monster slayer xD I want to deal more damage alot of damage what is a good strategy for me

yes last week I saw a powerfull player he deal a very huge amount of damage to the monster in 1 attack only

he did 19 million damage in 1 ATTACK what do u think guys his attack states

Blood Warrior
05-12-2012, 07:32 PM
Hey all,

I recently started playing and was wondering what my stay point allocations should be so that I'm decent for both pvp and monster fighting. Currently I am level 9 with 62 energy, 16 stamina, 1 attack and defense (don't get until level 10) and the base 100 health. I'm playing on an iphone and have an army of 27.

Thanks for the help.

n3r086
05-15-2012, 04:36 PM
So my plans are ultimately, in the long run,to go monster hunting. I was thinking about guild battles for a while, but after playing it for a bit, and then doing guild monster battles, I've decided I prefer PvM over PVP.

My stats:

LvL. 159
Energy 330
Stamina 237
Attack 220
Defense 170
Health 164

What would be recommended from this point to get higher in monster hunting? More energy or more focus on Stamina?

BSI 2,452830189
LSI 5,056603774

well, monster hunters benefits more from stamina so they can deal more damage in a monster (not damage per stamina, but more times to hit).
energy can still be used to do quests (yields SPs) and energy-based actions in monsters (strengthen, heal, deflect, cripple)

for you, I'd say get 360 stamina first --to complete festival feat. (If you find 360 is not enough, you might want to increase to say 500, in the long run, 1000 or more)

---------------------------------

I wanna be a good monster hunter ive been taking tips from a pvp person and want to see if he has been leading be in a right path. Ive been adding 3 attack and 2 defense everytime i level up is it good for my goal. Sorry if it sounds stupid im a complete noob at this game. thanks

level 341 Lieutenant Commander
1101 Max Energy -- Do more quests
512 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
441 Attack -- Offensive might
213 Defense -- Defense power
148 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

BSI 1,917888563
LSI 6,231671554

well... seems like you need to add more attack than defense. You might want to go for 4:1 or 5:1 ratio as attack is generally more useful than defense when fighting a monster. You have enough energy and stamina as power leveler, but as a hunter, generally you'll need more stamina. As for how much stamina, sky is the limit :)

---------------------------------

Lv401
849 Max Energy -- Do more quests
650 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
448 Attack -- Offensive might
105 Defense -- Defense power
102 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

Hope to be good monster hunter


Forgot to add that I'm using Maalvus for my damage.

BSI 1,379052369
LSI 5,359102244

you are already a good hunter.

just curious, do you refill? If yes, you might want to add stamina to at least 1000.
also, I think you need to increase your defense (say, to 200 first) so you'll be more efficient at energy-based actions in monsters :)

---------------------------------

Hi guys I'm new here

I need your help i'm level 130

energy 410
stamina 103
attack 212
defense 74
health 102

I want to be a monster slayer xD I want to deal more damage alot of damage what is a good strategy for me

yes last week I saw a powerfull player he deal a very huge amount of damage to the monster in 1 attack only

he did 19 million damage in 1 ATTACK what do u think guys his attack states

BSI 2,2
LSI 4,738461538

ok, here's the thing, being a monster slayer needs more dedication and funding (CC). Generally, slayers have at least 1000 stamina (since a refill is capped at 1000 stamina) and a hell lot of attack point. Maybe slayers in the forum can fill in to help you :) anyone?

as for your build, you might want to add more stamina, say to 300 or 360 (festival feat) first, then think about other stats later.


Hey all,

I recently started playing and was wondering what my stay point allocations should be so that I'm decent for both pvp and monster fighting. Currently I am level 9 with 62 energy, 16 stamina, 1 attack and defense (don't get until level 10) and the base 100 health. I'm playing on an iphone and have an army of 27.

Thanks for the help.

basically, you're talking about being a hybrid (good in both PvP and PvM, but not great in each part). to do that, you have to maintain your BSI and LSI at almost the same point.

BSI are calculated from: (attack + defense)/level
while LSI are calculated from: (energy + (stamina*2))/level

this is our current index:
BSI 0,222222222
LSI 10,44444444

hybrids generally have say... around 5 BSI and LSI. If you want to be one of them, try maintaining your BSI and LSI as close as possible to that point ;)

deathtalons2
05-18-2012, 02:58 PM
not sure where to focus my stat points

level 107

att 235
def 109
stamina 142
energy 150
health 118

kinda a hybrid right now.

I do some PvP for demi points daily, join guild battles daily and one of the top coins earners in my guild, and hit the monsters as hard as I can (using stamina and some of my energy). Most energy goes towards quests (iOS so no demi quests yet and therefore no skill points from those quests), but I just finished achievement for 25 quests to level 4.

I basically level 1 time per day with no refills.

I know I need more stamina and energy (300 is short term goal). I want to be more PvM but will join the GB's.

Also how is LSI calculated (formula) and exactly how do you determine what your means?

Tyrion Lannistor
05-19-2012, 03:37 PM
Oh great Stat Sages, lend me your wisdom and tell me my future!
Level 75
Battle Rank 12

Energy 117
Stamina 117
Attack 117
Defense 117
Health 100

What is to become of me? I level up once a day, even point distribution, except for health. I don't care for PvP, got to rank 12, then looked at the road ahead (100,000 battle points? No thank you!) and jumped ship. I like fighting monsters, but also like leveling up daily. Is it possible to be somewhat decent while evenly distributing points? I can solo the first 3 bosses and am almost done with my first dragon. My army is 125, do more members really affect my monster damage? And is the cap still 501? Thank you for any input!

Selocan
05-19-2012, 10:38 PM
Hi!

My stats:
level 387 Duke
410 Energy
462 Stamina
1548 Attack
400 Defense
303 Health

I believe my BSI should stay around 5 but no idea about how i should distribute stats between attack and defense.

I want to be more effective in monster slaying. I can attack 23 times with 20 stamina option. Spending 40 points for stamina, thus increasing it by 20 will allow me 24th attack with the same damage. On the other hand I can invest this 40 points on attack stat to increase damage for the attacks I already have.

23 times damage increase versus 1 additional attack. I don't know which is greater.

What is the right distribution that is more close to optimum for monster slaying?

Note: I do not purchase refills.

vicarius
05-20-2012, 12:43 AM
Aspiring monster hunter afterwards PVP (probably in 3 years :D)

Level 319 Lieutenant General
1100 Max Energy -- Do more quests
530 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
400 Attack -- Offensive might
147 Defense -- Defense power
172 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

Shall I add all my SP to stamina till 1k and then add attack infinitely?
Or shall 1 make a stop at 600 stamina then pump attack to 1k then resume with stamina pumping afterwards?

Currently enganged in dragons due to high exp return & sometimes FP. I'm also allotting around 400 energy at Cefka quest to sustain a level up everyday. Aside from dragons, can someone recommend other monster with high exp return? I also sometimes solo Vincent to achieve guild monster points requirement (100k pts).

Thank you in advance.

n3r086
05-20-2012, 03:57 AM
not sure where to focus my stat points

level 107

att 235
def 109
stamina 142
energy 150
health 118

kinda a hybrid right now.

I do some PvP for demi points daily, join guild battles daily and one of the top coins earners in my guild, and hit the monsters as hard as I can (using stamina and some of my energy). Most energy goes towards quests (iOS so no demi quests yet and therefore no skill points from those quests), but I just finished achievement for 25 quests to level 4.

I basically level 1 time per day with no refills.

I know I need more stamina and energy (300 is short term goal). I want to be more PvM but will join the GB's.

Also how is LSI calculated (formula) and exactly how do you determine what your means?

BSI 3,214953271
LSI 4,056074766

I think you are currently balanced hybrid, and I think it suits with your described play-style. Now you have the option whether to pursue the PvP part first (you'll level slower overtime but stronger vs your peers) or PvM first (faster leveling but weaker in PvP compared to your peers)

for your current level though, I'm suggesting you to complete your 300 stamina and energy first. It will benefit you more on quests (more SPs) and monsters.

I don't play from iOS, so I don't know if there is any gold medals in there. try getting the first easy achievements first (dragons and alchemy I think)

as for LSI formula:
(your energy + (2 * your stamina))/ your level

using your stat, your LSI is calculated like this:
(150 + (2*142))/107 = (150 + 284)/107 = 434/107 = 4,056074766

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Oh great Stat Sages, lend me your wisdom and tell me my future!
Level 75
Battle Rank 12

Energy 117
Stamina 117
Attack 117
Defense 117
Health 100

What is to become of me? I level up once a day, even point distribution, except for health. I don't care for PvP, got to rank 12, then looked at the road ahead (100,000 battle points? No thank you!) and jumped ship. I like fighting monsters, but also like leveling up daily. Is it possible to be somewhat decent while evenly distributing points? I can solo the first 3 bosses and am almost done with my first dragon. My army is 125, do more members really affect my monster damage? And is the cap still 501? Thank you for any input!

BSI 3,12
LSI 4,653333333

LOL, I gotta laugh, we are not sages, just regular players only with more experience in the game since we played longer than some people :p

getting battle points (BP) in normal ladder is easy. 100.000 points is nothing in there (if you're strong enough). You are building your character as a balanced hybrid. All build is possible to attain, and there are no wrong build.

for your build, if you intend to keep being balance, you can still evenly distribute your stat like what you did already. Personally, if I were you, I'll aim to add energy to 300 first so I can quest more, so I can get more SPs to allocate to other stats.

Army count doesn't affect in monster damage (maybe in Ragnaroks, someone has to confirm this).
Army counts does affect when "invading" someone in battle. The cap is still at 501, but you can increase it with some generals (Chase and Mephisto -- I forgot the other generals, Savannah?)

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Hi!

My stats:
level 387 Duke
410 Energy
462 Stamina
1548 Attack
400 Defense
303 Health

I believe my BSI should stay around 5 but no idea about how i should distribute stats between attack and defense.

I want to be more effective in monster slaying. I can attack 23 times with 20 stamina option. Spending 40 points for stamina, thus increasing it by 20 will allow me 24th attack with the same damage. On the other hand I can invest this 40 points on attack stat to increase damage for the attacks I already have.

23 times damage increase versus 1 additional attack. I don't know which is greater.

What is the right distribution that is more close to optimum for monster slaying?

Note: I do not purchase refills.

BSI 5,033591731
LSI 3,447028424

basically, to be more effective in hunting, you have to have more stamina. You can deal more hits with more stamina whilst attack only adds a little increase per single stat, and there's diminishing return per point of attack in monsters. the conclusion is, if you want to be more effective in monsters, add stamina.

There were the maths lying around somewhere in General discussion section, search for it :)

There is no right or wrong build in CA. You can add to what you think will benefit you the most and suits your play-style.

Usually slayers has at least 1000 point of stamina and God knows how much attack point, but they use refills to get there. If you don't plan to use refill, I think adding stamina to infinite is the best course (but then again, I might be wrong as I'm no slayer or monster hunter :p)

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Aspiring monster hunter afterwards PVP (probably in 3 years :D)

Level 319 Lieutenant General
1100 Max Energy -- Do more quests
530 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
400 Attack -- Offensive might
147 Defense -- Defense power
172 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

Shall I add all my SP to stamina till 1k and then add attack infinitely?
Or shall 1 make a stop at 600 stamina then pump attack to 1k then resume with stamina pumping afterwards?

Currently enganged in dragons due to high exp return & sometimes FP. I'm also allotting around 400 energy at Cefka quest to sustain a level up everyday. Aside from dragons, can someone recommend other monster with high exp return? I also sometimes solo Vincent to achieve guild monster points requirement (100k pts).

Thank you in advance.

BSI 1,714733542
LSI 6,771159875

I must warn you first, switching build can be done, but it wont be easy. Since you are currently borderline Power Leveler - Hunter, you will have to become a hybrid first before you can be a PvP. The switch may take months to years to complete.

If you want to be more effective in hunting, getting 1000 stamina is a good start. You can always add more than 1000 since more stamina is never enough for hunters.
by getting more stamina, you can level up faster (thus gaining 5 SP, but you may lose potential daily demi blessings) and do more things with your acct.

I don't know anything about monster maths, sorry, I can't help you on that part. But afaik, the best stam:exp ratio is on dragons. Just a thought, why don't you hunt other monsters to complete your achievements and gaining better equipments (it will benefit you in the long-term once you decided to go PvP and invading your opponents, also to gear up your war council)

vicarius
05-20-2012, 06:44 AM
Thanks for the advice.

Some of the monster achievements are done except for the DP equipments I plan to pursue. In my opinion, tagging on them would be inefficient. I only have achieved gold medals on around 6 monsters, plan on pursuing the others until I reach the 1000 stamina mark. I only play 1 hr every 24 or 36 hrs; demi blessing forces me to :mad:

Basing on the formula (somewhere on the threads), I will reach the 1000 stamina mark in 150 ~ 180 days, around level 420 :confused:

Till then, I can buy me some favor point and do some extended play on weekends, somehow shorten the time span to reach level 1000. Maybe from 7 years reduced to 4 years :o

And then I wonder, I can only start to enjoy actually playing when I reach the 1k stam and 1k attack stats :eek:

TheForsaken
05-20-2012, 01:59 PM
Hello all ,

I'm new on this game, and I play on Iphone. I'm lv10 actually and my stats are :

Energy - 44
Stamina - 10
Attack - 1
Defense - 1
Health - 100

I also have 23 SP to distribute actually, but I don't do it, in fear of doing a mistake. I'm more interested in PvM than PvP, and I want to be a very strong defender. I also don't mind if I level up slowly.

Where would you advice me to allocate the SP and how many in each category?

And could you explain me please what means BSI and LSI?

I would also like to know if there is a Castle Age Wiki for Iphone?

deathtalons2
05-21-2012, 01:55 PM
not sure where to focus my stat points

level 107

att 235
def 109
stamina 142
energy 150
health 118

kinda a hybrid right now.

I do some PvP for demi points daily, join guild battles daily and one of the top coins earners in my guild, and hit the monsters as hard as I can (using stamina and some of my energy). Most energy goes towards quests (iOS so no demi quests yet and therefore no skill points from those quests), but I just finished achievement for 25 quests to level 4.

I basically level 1 time per day with no refills.

I know I need more stamina and energy (300 is short term goal). I want to be more PvM but will join the GB's.

Also how is LSI calculated (formula) and exactly how do you determine what your means?

thanks for the advice.

I have done most of the low level gold models. Need to finish a couple of serpents still and a gold dragon (silver only).

I have many achievements complete or nearly complete (1 more keira battle for 5 kills, 1 more lotus battle for 5 kills, 7 dragons kills so far (should be 8 after we finish this current one), 2 more cronos battles for 10kills so grabbing extra skill points when I can.

I am upping energy and stamina right now (1:2). I am trying to slow down a bit to get demi blessings points to fill in the attack and extra energy (level every 2 days instead of daily). Since iOS does not have the demi quests yet the skill points come slowly. But at least I just achieved lvl 2 rogue last night.

DFG
05-21-2012, 03:47 PM
Level 388 Earl

570 Energy
560 Stamina
712 attack
355 defense
162 health

I've been basically slow leveling, accruing decent things, but I want to maximize what i'm doing now, and i'm not really going anywhere. I have all the demi divine items, plus the drunk and kanbe, I really need to start getting the jahanna aura ambrosia ones, but i'm very lazy/ unmotivated to do this. I've gained like 7 ranks in PvP recently just for the hell of it. I'm in a crappy guild, nobody summons the good divine monsters just crap ones, so I'm limited to find ones that are open, and even those run the risk of not being completed. My army is only at 230, needs to be higher. I have the lava axe, the sword of redemption, moon amulet, the plate of fenix, the dragon helm, tentacle arm, the deathwalker boots, and empowered arcane. What are the better equipment that I can realistically get. I do sometimes spend on refilling, but only from random FP's from serpents.

n3r086
05-25-2012, 04:02 AM
Hello all ,

I'm new on this game, and I play on Iphone. I'm lv10 actually and my stats are :

Energy - 44
Stamina - 10
Attack - 1
Defense - 1
Health - 100

I also have 23 SP to distribute actually, but I don't do it, in fear of doing a mistake. I'm more interested in PvM than PvP, and I want to be a very strong defender. I also don't mind if I level up slowly.

Where would you advice me to allocate the SP and how many in each category?

And could you explain me please what means BSI and LSI?

I would also like to know if there is a Castle Age Wiki for Iphone?

be a hybrid then (according to your goal) but beware:
1. You like hunting, which requires attack point to deal damage in monsters, and of course stamina
2. you want to be a very strong defender in PvP, which requires a lot of defense point

your goal is contradicting each other, the best way for your IMO is being a hybrid. :)
allocate your SPs to maintain your BSI and LSI around 4-5.

BSI = (attack + defense)/level
LSI = (energy + (stamina*2))/level

I think you can check the iPhone sub-forum section from more information (I don't play from iPhone, so I don't really know)


Level 388 Earl

570 Energy
560 Stamina
712 attack
355 defense
162 health

I've been basically slow leveling, accruing decent things, but I want to maximize what i'm doing now, and i'm not really going anywhere. I have all the demi divine items, plus the drunk and kanbe, I really need to start getting the jahanna aura ambrosia ones, but i'm very lazy/ unmotivated to do this. I've gained like 7 ranks in PvP recently just for the hell of it. I'm in a crappy guild, nobody summons the good divine monsters just crap ones, so I'm limited to find ones that are open, and even those run the risk of not being completed. My army is only at 230, needs to be higher. I have the lava axe, the sword of redemption, moon amulet, the plate of fenix, the dragon helm, tentacle arm, the deathwalker boots, and empowered arcane. What are the better equipment that I can realistically get. I do sometimes spend on refilling, but only from random FP's from serpents.

BSI 2,75
LSI 4,355670103

You are a hunter-hybrid. what do you like the most? hunting or PvP? or both?
For Divine Items, go for Jahanna first

as a PvP-er, I see you have more than enough energy and stamina. If I were you, I'll add attack to at least 1000 and defense to at least 500.

jsin
05-25-2012, 04:29 AM
394 baron

375 Max Energy
509 Max Stamina
1026 Attack
918 Defense
166 Max Health


guess im just wondering how my build is coming along. i mainly monster hunt but i wanna be able to hold my own in pvp. i find that i lose to players at a much lower level

DFG
05-25-2012, 01:27 PM
I only starting pvp'ing to change up the pace. I've been strictly monster hunting. I got the invade achievement, and guess I'll go for the duel one too. I really hate how long it takes to add to stamina to get it up highly. I use refills now on jahanna and have been putting 19 mill into each one. I have like 5 active ones.

TheForsaken
05-25-2012, 03:59 PM
be a hybrid then (according to your goal) but beware:
1. You like hunting, which requires attack point to deal damage in monsters, and of course stamina
2. you want to be a very strong defender in PvP, which requires a lot of defense point

your goal is contradicting each other, the best way for your IMO is being a hybrid. :)
allocate your SPs to maintain your BSI and LSI around 4-5.

BSI = (attack + defense)/level
LSI = (energy + (stamina*2))/level

I think you can check the iPhone sub-forum section from more information (I don't play from iPhone, so I don't really know)



Thank you for your answer. I'm now lv23 and have a BSI of 4.00 and a LSI of 4.57 . (Thank you COPTER :D)

So a Hybrid I will be then. I was too aware of the fact that my goals were contradicting eachother ,I mean ,where in heaven have you seen a monster hunter with a big defense and poor attack? :o

Another question : What should I do with health? It doesn't seem important to me ,should I ignore it (for now)?

MCpoolish
05-26-2012, 11:26 AM
Low level here just want to ask few questions.

1. I'm currently at level 20 (starter) and i currently have 55 Stamina 40 Energy Attack/Defense 1 Health 100. How can i level faster? Is it by investing more on Energy or Stamina?
2. On what numbers should i stop adding Stamina/Energy so that i could focus on attack and defense?
3. What Quest, or whatever it is, can give me Higher exp than the required Energy/Stamina?

That's all for now :) Hopefully somebody can help me out :D

zserg
05-26-2012, 12:09 PM
Low level here just want to ask few questions.

1. I'm currently at level 20 (starter) and i currently have 55 Stamina 40 Energy Attack/Defense 1 Health 100. How can i level faster? Is it by investing more on Energy or Stamina?
2. On what numbers should i stop adding Stamina/Energy so that i could focus on attack and defense?
3. What Quest, or whatever it is, can give me Higher exp than the required Energy/Stamina?

That's all for now :) Hopefully somebody can help me out :D

There's no really right way to build your char in CA. Depending what you want from the game, there's several ways to build a char.

1. High BSI toon. This one keeps stam and energy low, super extreme folks have like 100 energy and 50 stam. If you stop at that, in a hundred or so lvls you'll start lvling very slow, and your BSI will go up. This is good for pvp, but by no means "the best". You'll be very strong for your lvl, but will be limited in many ways, having so few ene/stm you'll lose regen stam and energy which will make you lvl even slower.
If you add a bit more, like 200/200 to not lose regen as much, then you'll also get a high bsi toon in the end, but a little less extreme. It's very possible though, that raw-power wise, you'll be better than super-extreme folks.

2. Hybrid. Get some stam and energy in the beginning, then choose a BSI (or LSI) and maintain that. I'd say from 3 BSI to like 7 BSI is hybrid range. More than 7 BSI you'll be number one there^ less than 3 BSI, you'll be a plvler.
Advantage of hybrid is that because you're forever adding both att/def and stam/energy you will forever do well in monsters, and do well in pvp rather than specializing.

3. Powerlvler. Keep BSI really low, go for 2000 energy 1000 stam, then add some attack and def, then increase energy and stam some more.

BSI= (attack+def)/lvl
LSI= (energy+ 2*stam)/lvl

4. If you find you like GBs, you can consider adding some health.


Re: lvling speed. At this point no amount of stam and energy will allow you to maintain a lvling speed higher than 4-5 days in the end. The only way to maintain lvling speed is to refill. You can either buy favor points, but they also drop from monsters. It's up to you to figure if monsters drop enough to satisfy your needs.

5. The strongest folk in the game are generally those that refill a lot. Many people stop adding to energy and stam after getting to the refill caps(there are refill caps at 2000 ene/1000 stam- if you have more a refill still only gives 2000/1000). So they stop at refill caps, then get another 1000 lvls. So they're very strong :v

6. In normal game, once you're over level 300 you'll be competing with everyone else for battle points, ofc majority of population is still below lvl 600 so you won't see the super high lvls very often, but it's still something to keep in mind, that's why for many relative strength is not as important as absolute strength. Similarly in GBs, it's even worse, lvl infinity can hit lvl 1s, so again it's all about absolute strength.

MCpoolish
05-26-2012, 01:31 PM
There's no really right way to build your char in CA. Depending what you want from the game, there's several ways to build a char.

1. High BSI toon. This one keeps stam and energy low, super extreme folks have like 100 energy and 50 stam. If you stop at that, in a hundred or so lvls you'll start lvling very slow, and your BSI will go up. This is good for pvp, but by no means "the best". You'll be very strong for your lvl, but will be limited in many ways, having so few ene/stm you'll lose regen stam and energy which will make you lvl even slower.
If you add a bit more, like 200/200 to not lose regen as much, then you'll also get a high bsi toon in the end, but a little less extreme. It's very possible though, that raw-power wise, you'll be better than super-extreme folks.

2. Hybrid. Get some stam and energy in the beginning, then choose a BSI (or LSI) and maintain that. I'd say from 3 BSI to like 7 BSI is hybrid range. More than 7 BSI you'll be number one there^ less than 3 BSI, you'll be a plvler.
Advantage of hybrid is that because you're forever adding both att/def and stam/energy you will forever do well in monsters, and do well in pvp rather than specializing.

3. Powerlvler. Keep BSI really low, go for 2000 energy 1000 stam, then add some attack and def, then increase energy and stam some more.

BSI= (attack+def)/lvl
LSI= (energy+ 2*stam)/lvl

4. If you find you like GBs, you can consider adding some health.


Re: lvling speed. At this point no amount of stam and energy will allow you to maintain a lvling speed higher than 4-5 days in the end. The only way to maintain lvling speed is to refill. You can either buy favor points, but they also drop from monsters. It's up to you to figure if monsters drop enough to satisfy your needs.

5. The strongest folk in the game are generally those that refill a lot. Many people stop adding to energy and stam after getting to the refill caps(there are refill caps at 2000 ene/1000 stam- if you have more a refill still only gives 2000/1000). So they stop at refill caps, then get another 1000 lvls. So they're very strong :v

6. In normal game, once you're over level 300 you'll be competing with everyone else for battle points, ofc majority of population is still below lvl 600 so you won't see the super high lvls very often, but it's still something to keep in mind, that's why for many relative strength is not as important as absolute strength. Similarly in GBs, it's even worse, lvl infinity can hit lvl 1s, so again it's all about absolute strength.

This helps a lot :) thank you for this. I already have in mind what build should i do. Thanks again!

Callous
05-30-2012, 05:25 PM
Level 150 Centurion
276 Energy
153 Stamina
160 Attack
216 Defense
161 Health

I do mostly Guild Battles as a Cleric. I want to continue to do Guild Battles as a Cleric I also quest for the SP's. What stat's should I focus on to keep myself alive during Guild battles and is there a certain Hero I should aim to get. I currently have Azul, Solara and Draconius. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

n3r086
06-02-2012, 03:14 AM
394 baron

375 Max Energy
509 Max Stamina
1026 Attack
918 Defense
166 Max Health


guess im just wondering how my build is coming along. i mainly monster hunt but i wanna be able to hold my own in pvp. i find that i lose to players at a much lower level


BSI 4,934010152
LSI 3,535532995

you're a strong hybrid. maybe you just found lower level PvP-er on your list. you're quite strong at your level :)



Level 150 Centurion
276 Energy
153 Stamina
160 Attack
216 Defense
161 Health

I do mostly Guild Battles as a Cleric. I want to continue to do Guild Battles as a Cleric I also quest for the SP's. What stat's should I focus on to keep myself alive during Guild battles and is there a certain Hero I should aim to get. I currently have Azul, Solara and Draconius. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

BSI 2,506666667
LSI 3,88
TSI 6,386666667


IMO, you have a very low TSI. don't forget yo collect daily demi blessings and hunt for SPs from achievements and quests.
for guild battles, health is important to keep you alive, but attack and defense matters too. For clerics, I suggest getting Sanna first and Daphne too. Heal and Dispel is a must have ability as a cleric.

BigDean
06-07-2012, 12:29 AM
pretty much a newb I been plating for about a month.Can you grow to fast or am I doin things wrong.

210

Max Energy -- Do more quests




120

Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)




43 (+20)

Attack -- Offensive might




42 (-25)

Defense -- Defense power




123

Max Health -- Withstand attacks

Ginger The Hutt
06-07-2012, 10:20 AM
pretty much a newb I been plating for about a month.Can you grow to fast or am I doin things wrong.

210 Max Energy -- Do more quests
120 Max Stamina -- Launch attacks! (cost 2)
43 (+20) Attack -- Offensive might
42 (-25) Defense -- Defense power
123 Max Health -- Withstand attacks

Ok firstly what level are you? and secondly do you have any idea of what you want to be when you grow up in game?

alnitak
06-07-2012, 02:45 PM
With the way the game has evolved, I've become a fan of the "300 rule" (long thread here on it). Basically, get both energy and stamina up to 300 each to provide a base for leveling and monster damage, and then decide where to go from there. In general, if you want to monster hunt, then focus on stamina (first) and attack. PvP, focus on attack and defense.

Richard S
06-09-2012, 11:17 AM
Attempted build: PvPvM

Just to ask what you guys think of the build/any advice on how to keep building/growing.
The current stats are thusly

Level; 342
Energy; 400
Stamina; 374
Attack; 1026
Defence; 684
Health; 303

JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WHAT IVE DONE SO FAR
I plan to keep to my personal stratagy of 3:2 in attack and defence with my leveling points. It keeps me strong and hey, it helps me utilise that meager stamina store against monsters reali well! The 400 energy is for healing monsters and getting more of those yummy scrummy skill points. So i kind of know what i would like to do with the 5 skill points i have every level.

THE QUESTIONS
Its the extra points i dont know how to deal with. I was thinking bringing stamina to 400 or 500, but from there? who knows? is 500 stamina enough with a high attack (for my level) or should i be thinking 1000? do i have enough energy to keep progressing well into the later part of castle age? these are the questions i have.

Feel free to critizise, call me a fool for getting to 303 health (although i do kind of need the health for guild battles) and yea. So on so forth.

alnitak
06-09-2012, 01:02 PM
Attempted build: PvPvM

Just to ask what you guys think of the build/any advice on how to keep building/growing.
The current stats are thusly

Level; 342
Energy; 400
Stamina; 374
Attack; 1026
Defence; 684
Health; 303

JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WHAT IVE DONE SO FAR
I plan to keep to my personal stratagy of 3:2 in attack and defence with my leveling points. It keeps me strong and hey, it helps me utilise that meager stamina store against monsters reali well! The 400 energy is for healing monsters and getting more of those yummy scrummy skill points. So i kind of know what i would like to do with the 5 skill points i have every level.

THE QUESTIONS
Its the extra points i dont know how to deal with. I was thinking bringing stamina to 400 or 500, but from there? who knows? is 500 stamina enough with a high attack (for my level) or should i be thinking 1000? do i have enough energy to keep progressing well into the later part of castle age? these are the questions i have.

Feel free to critizise, call me a fool for getting to 303 health (although i do kind of need the health for guild battles) and yea. So on so forth.
Looks like you have a nice hybrid build going. I think you have enough energy for a while (you can always up it later). Take your stamina to 500 (and eventually 1000), while keeping your BSI at 5. Your choice once you hit 500 stamina to then get energy up to 500 or keep going with stamina. Think you have enough health for a good while.

n3r086
06-09-2012, 01:48 PM
Attempted build: PvPvM

Just to ask what you guys think of the build/any advice on how to keep building/growing.
The current stats are thusly

Level; 342
Energy; 400
Stamina; 374
Attack; 1026
Defence; 684
Health; 303

JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WHAT IVE DONE SO FAR
I plan to keep to my personal stratagy of 3:2 in attack and defence with my leveling points. It keeps me strong and hey, it helps me utilise that meager stamina store against monsters reali well! The 400 energy is for healing monsters and getting more of those yummy scrummy skill points. So i kind of know what i would like to do with the 5 skill points i have every level.

THE QUESTIONS
Its the extra points i dont know how to deal with. I was thinking bringing stamina to 400 or 500, but from there? who knows? is 500 stamina enough with a high attack (for my level) or should i be thinking 1000? do i have enough energy to keep progressing well into the later part of castle age? these are the questions i have.

Feel free to critizise, call me a fool for getting to 303 health (although i do kind of need the health for guild battles) and yea. So on so forth.

BSI 5
LSI 3,356725146
TSI 8,356725146

You are a strong hybrid right now. Try maintaining your BSI when you level up. I'd suggest getting your stam to 400 pts first then add to energy (well, I'm a fan of energy over stamina :p). Next Festival Energy Feat is at 510 pts then at 725 pts.

If you plan on doing monsters, too much stamina is never enough :)

LeonCC
06-14-2012, 09:08 PM
ideas of were to go from this point to level 1000? i Like to help in guild battles/Monsters the most and want to get to be a bigger help in these to places most. But i am open to any and all input. i am on both fb and iOS. at first i wanted to make a power leveler till i hit level 1000 then treat it as if i was a new account and build from that point on. but i joined a fun guild and now want to help them more them with just having my higher lvl than most. thank You all for the input in advance.

lvl 301
600 energy
580 stamina
500 Attack
170 defense
215 Health
255 Army working on getting this maxed

Warrior 5 Cleric 1 Rouge 2 Mage 4

n3r086
06-15-2012, 03:02 AM
ideas of were to go from this point to level 1000? i Like to help in guild battles/Monsters the most and want to get to be a bigger help in these to places most. But i am open to any and all input. i am on both fb and iOS. at first i wanted to make a power leveler till i hit level 1000 then treat it as if i was a new account and build from that point on. but i joined a fun guild and now want to help them more them with just having my higher lvl than most. thank You all for the input in advance.

lvl 301
600 energy
580 stamina
500 Attack
170 defense
215 Health
255 Army working on getting this maxed

Warrior 5 Cleric 1 Rouge 2 Mage 4

BSI 2,225913621
LSI 5,84717608

You are currently a hunter :)

Based on your description, I suggest you become a hybrid instead of hunter. By becoming a hybrid, you can enjoy the most part of the game (although not becoming the best -- like the extreme builds)

In guild battles, you can help your guild by becoming stronger in PvP (or add tons of health -- which I don't recommend). Add more to attack and defense, try balancing your LSI and BSI.

LSI = (energy + (stamina*2))/ your level ==> this shows how fast you can level up compared to your peers
BSI = (attack + defense)/ your level ==> this shows how good are you in PvP compared to your peers

For starters, you might want to add attack to 1000 and defense to 500. You have more than enough stamina atm. for energy, I suggest you get it to 725 (festival tower feat).

For your Battle Class, pick the ones that the guild needs you to be ;)

xxBEOWULFxx (Slayers-iOS)
06-15-2012, 07:11 AM
I will begin with my stats...

Level: 217
Battle Rank: 19 Prince
Energy: 165
Stamina: 91
Health: 214
Attack: 623
Defense: 701 (Aurelius)

Att Power 1,113.7
Def Power 1,137.1
BSI 6.101

iOS Guild battle class: Resistance 4 and deianira lvl 4
Level 3 cleric (heal 1, cleanse 3)
Level 3.8 warrior (leadership 3, whirlwind 1) Ameron lvl 4

I have worked very hard to grab nearly every skill point available on the iPhone version of the game. I am by no means a monster hunter but I've resorted to refilling stam to complete the monster achievements. I only have skarr and genesis left to do that will give me skill points. I pray to malkeus or coventhious each day already. After the monsters are complete the only other achievements left are to go to battle rank 20 king. I won't even try high king as there are no skill point rewards. I've almost completed the entire 1st page of quests and subquests to level 4. I watch my xp very closely so that I don't rank up too fast. But it seems I've reached a crest where I will continue to level but will no longer be able to get the additional +2 sp before.

I have developed a plan where when I have completed all achievements I will no longer use stam or energy... I will only pray to the either malekus or corvintheus each day to collect my extra sp to attack or defense. My target BSI is 7-8 or a high as I can get.

My question is do you have any suggestions or recommendations for achieving the BSI goal I have in mind. Being limited to the iOS version has necessitated a creative approach to BSI improvement. I hear rumor of Atlantis and Demi quests but I've learned it's best not to count on additional game features. I have the map of Atlantis created... Just in case the quests are ever added.

But until then, I can think of no other way to increase my BSI than to just sit boringly in the same level... Avoiding all xp possible.

Thx... 💀💀BEOWULF💀💀

xxBEOWULFxx (Slayers-iOS)
06-15-2012, 07:44 AM
Oh yeah.... What I want most from this game? What are my priorities?
I want to be impossible to beat in guild battles. I get the absolute MOST satisfaction out of hitting level 300-500 in guild battles and winning. It's even more satisfying that I'm adding humiliation to the win and that im so many levels lower than them. This is a huge confidence booster to my guild. And as (or now) a cleric there always someone that looks at my level and makes the mistake of hitting me. So ease consider this in your responses. I do not want to lose this characteristic of my build.

wraith
06-15-2012, 09:30 AM
Oh yeah.... What I want most from this game? What are my priorities?
I want to be impossible to beat in guild battles. I get the absolute MOST satisfaction out of hitting level 300-500 in guild battles and winning. It's even more satisfying that I'm adding humiliation to the win and that im so many levels lower than them. This is a huge confidence booster to my guild. And as (or now) a cleric there always someone that looks at my level and makes the mistake of hitting me. So ease consider this in your responses. I do not want to lose this characteristic of my build.
I'll be making 3 assumptions:
1. Castle Age iOS has daily blessings.
2. Castle Age iOS have regular quest realms, just no demi quests and atlantis.
3. You will be purely pumping Att/Def.

If any of the above is false, my apologies. You can just ignore me :D.

If you do nothing for the next 200 days, you will remain at level 217 but with BSI 7 (total ~1519).

On the other hand, you could just use your stamina and energy normally over that same 200 days and you might be around level 285 with a BSI of only 6.9 (total ~1967), gaining about 9-10 SP per level (5 from level up, 2 from quests, 2.5 from blessings).

Which would you prefer after 200 days? (a) 1600 A/D @ level 217 or (b) 2000 A/D @ level 285.

As long as you are purely pumping Att/Def, your BSI will naturally rise as your leveling slows down and you don't run out of quests... probably gravitating towards BSI 10+ on the long run. The high BSI characteristic of your build will never be lost as a result of you consuming your daily regeneration worth of stamina / energy.

As an example, my BSI naturally increased from 8 -> 10 over the course of 240 levels. If I had stalled using stamina and energy and just prayed, I could probably have had BSI 11... but at the cost of being weaker overall (ie. having less Att/Def).

Finck13
06-15-2012, 07:44 PM
Ok I'm stuck as to where to put my future skill points now Since I would like to keep my BSI up yet I take about a day and a half to two days to level up. Also I'm a Facebook player if that helps.

I'm trying to go for a PvPvM build
Level 81
Energy 105
Stamina 67
Attack 235
Defense 105
Health 128

I'm currently praying to aurora for the moonfall amulet and am about 10-12 days away from it and she is the first demi-god I have prayed to so I will be starting azeron next. I participate in guild battles 3-4 times a day depending on the times I can make them.

xxBEOWULFxx (Slayers-iOS)
06-15-2012, 09:25 PM
I'll be making 3 assumptions:
1. Castle Age iOS has daily blessings.
2. Castle Age iOS have regular quest realms, just no demi quests and atlantis.
3. You will be purely pumping Att/Def.

If any of the above is false, my apologies. You can just ignore me :D.

If you do nothing for the next 200 days, you will remain at level 217 but with BSI 7 (total ~1519).

On the other hand, you could just use your stamina and energy normally over that same 200 days and you might be around level 285 with a BSI of only 6.9 (total ~1967), gaining about 9-10 SP per level (5 from level up, 2 from quests, 2.5 from blessings).

Which would you prefer after 200 days? (a) 1600 A/D @ level 217 or (b) 2000 A/D @ level 285.

As long as you are purely pumping Att/Def, your BSI will naturally rise as your leveling slows down and you don't run out of quests... probably gravitating towards BSI 10+ on the long run. The high BSI characteristic of your build will never be lost as a result of you consuming your daily regeneration worth of stamina / energy.

As an example, my BSI naturally increased from 8 -> 10 over the course of 240 levels. If I had stalled using stamina and energy and just prayed, I could probably have had BSI 11... but at the cost of being weaker overall (ie. having less Att/Def).
Ok GREAT!!! I was beginning to get worried that there wasn't enough headroom in the 200 levels to accommodate the sp rate I was accustomed to. I will probably chose to do a little of both. When I want an extra BSI boost... Them ill wait a couple of days... Then spend my en/stam.

Thx so much!!

xxBEOWULFxx (Slayers-iOS)
06-15-2012, 09:30 PM
I'll be making 3 assumptions:
1. Castle Age iOS has daily blessings.
2. Castle Age iOS have regular quest realms, just no demi quests and atlantis.
3. You will be purely pumping Att/Def.

If any of the above is false, my apologies. You can just ignore me :D.

If you do nothing for the next 200 days, you will remain at level 217 but with BSI 7 (total ~1519).

On the other hand, you could just use your stamina and energy normally over that same 200 days and you might be around level 285 with a BSI of only 6.9 (total ~1967), gaining about 9-10 SP per level (5 from level up, 2 from quests, 2.5 from blessings).

Which would you prefer after 200 days? (a) 1600 A/D @ level 217 or (b) 2000 A/D @ level 285.

As long as you are purely pumping Att/Def, your BSI will naturally rise as your leveling slows down and you don't run out of quests... probably gravitating towards BSI 10+ on the long run. The high BSI characteristic of your build will never be lost as a result of you consuming your daily regeneration worth of stamina / energy.

As an example, my BSI naturally increased from 8 -> 10 over the course of 240 levels. If I had stalled using stamina and energy and just prayed, I could probably have had BSI 11... but at the cost of being weaker overall (ie. having less Att/Def).
... And BSI 10!!!!! Wtf?!? That's in heard of in the iOS world. I'm soooo looking forward to the day when the iOS can do all the extra PvP activity.

DarkChronicle
06-20-2012, 12:08 PM
663 Max Energy
545 Max Stamina
1111 Attack
600 Defense
301 Max Health
427 Army Size

I am LV 439! Where should I put my points in? Give some advice thanks in advance~

n3r086
06-20-2012, 12:18 PM
663 Max Energy
545 Max Stamina
1111 Attack
600 Defense
301 Max Health
427 Army Size

I am LV 439! Where should I put my points in? Give some advice thanks in advance~

BSI 3,897494305
LSI 3,993166287

Depends on what you want to be? hunter? hybrid? PvP?
You are balanced hybrid btw :)

n3r086
06-20-2012, 12:22 PM
Ok I'm stuck as to where to put my future skill points now Since I would like to keep my BSI up yet I take about a day and a half to two days to level up. Also I'm a Facebook player if that helps.

I'm trying to go for a PvPvM build
Level 81
Energy 105
Stamina 67
Attack 235
Defense 105
Health 128

I'm currently praying to aurora for the moonfall amulet and am about 10-12 days away from it and she is the first demi-god I have prayed to so I will be starting azeron next. I participate in guild battles 3-4 times a day depending on the times I can make them.

Looks like I missed your post :p

BSI 4,197530864
LSI 2,950617284

Leveling up will become slower and slower in time and that's normal. If you want to become a PvPvM, I suggest becoming a hybrid :)
Add some more energy and stamina, try to maintain your LSI 3 - 3.5 :)

majordan
06-20-2012, 05:17 PM
Current Stats:

Level: 149
Energy: 130
Stamina: 141
Attack: 568
Defense: 310
Health: 116
Army: 564
Battle Class: Cleric

I'm most interested in being an effective Cleric in supporting my guild in battles and monsters. I'm not overly concerned with leveling quickly. Do I just continue to pump stats into defense? Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Yarmes
06-20-2012, 09:07 PM
I've just started playing and really enjoy the game but could do with a little guidance. I've decided I would like to go down the road of cleric and check in quite a few times to check and use my various points.

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj636/yarmes1/cd647ea0.jpg

This is where I'm at right now, I'm battling monsters at the min but participate in guild battles as much as possible. Ive previously played a war game before which was heavy into PvP and would like to go down this route eventually. Any suggestions would be really welcome.

Thanks very much

n3r086
06-21-2012, 02:15 AM
Current Stats:

Level: 149
Energy: 130
Stamina: 141
Attack: 568
Defense: 310
Health: 116
Army: 564
Battle Class: Cleric

I'm most interested in being an effective Cleric in supporting my guild in battles and monsters. I'm not overly concerned with leveling quickly. Do I just continue to pump stats into defense? Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks.

BSI 5,89261745
LSI 2,765100671

I must say, being a defensive build has it's own perks. You will see a lot of people bouncing on you, BUT please note that there is always bigger sharks in the ocean. In monsters, being a defensive build gives you a disadvantage when it comes to dealing damage.

If you feel that being defensive gives you the most fun in the game then do it :)



I've just started playing and really enjoy the game but could do with a little guidance. I've decided I would like to go down the road of cleric and check in quite a few times to check and use my various points.

*snipped the img*

This is where I'm at right now, I'm battling monsters at the min but participate in guild battles as much as possible. Ive previously played a war game before which was heavy into PvP and would like to go down this route eventually. Any suggestions would be really welcome.

Thanks very much

Level 41
Attack 11
Defense 38
Energy 71
Stamina 76

BSI 1,195121951
LSI 5,43902439

Based on your description, you want to become a PvP-er. In that case, add more to attack and defense. Sky is the limit as too much attack/defense is never enough in PvP :)

But, if you do enjoy hitting monsters, I'd suggest getting at least 144 energy/stamina first (12 h regen time) so you don't waste the potential regen :)

sturick
06-21-2012, 07:51 PM
Looking for advice on how to allocate future stats. Especially if the Demi Quests and Atlantis are released for iOS only users.

Lvl 156
225 Energy
211 Stamina
264 Attack
200 Defense
130 Health
575 Army

I'm a hybrid build that participates in guild battles and monster hunts. I will do just enough PvP to get the SP's and achievements.

I'm going to put the majority of points into Attack but my main question is where should I "cap" my Energy, Stam, and Defense? Not a CC'er and don't do FP refills...yet :)

BAMF Renegade
06-21-2012, 07:58 PM
I have 2 accounts that I need help with.

The first one

Level 42
Energy-51
Stamina-30
Attack-145
Defense-145
Health-100


The second one

Level 214
Energy-185
Stamina-170
Attack-435
Defense-403
Health-261

Thanks

DarkChronicle
06-24-2012, 01:23 AM
BSI 3,897494305
LSI 3,993166287

Depends on what you want to be? hunter? hybrid? PvP?
You are balanced hybrid btw :)

If I want to be the monster hunter, which stats should I add into? Thanks again :)

sturick
06-25-2012, 08:43 PM
Looking for advice on how to allocate future stats. Especially if the Demi Quests and Atlantis are released for iOS only users.

Lvl 156
225 Energy
211 Stamina
264 Attack
200 Defense
130 Health
575 Army

I'm a hybrid build that participates in guild battles and monster hunts. I will do just enough PvP to get the SP's and achievements.

I'm going to put the majority of points into Attack but my main question is where should I "cap" my Energy, Stam, and Defense? Not a CC'er and don't do FP refills...yet :)

Friendly bump...

Mad Mardigan
06-25-2012, 09:26 PM
Defense is for Sissies... Ca is built towards favoring cannons... As for Energy... I wouldn't go over 350 just for the simple fact.. Eventually you will run out of quests.... Stamina.... 611 would be my ideal number 1 stam. To assist in weapon. 10 to join monster. And 600 to have a 200 stamina hit with Maalvus........ Or just 611 stamina to chain an entire guild :D

Kryptonitez
06-25-2012, 10:57 PM
i'm level 111 now

110 Energy
97 Stamina
524 Attack
27 Defense
165 Health
1364 Army

well, actually i want to be a hard hitter in monster battle, but also a pvp player.
i know i'm so lack of stam, bcoz i want to maintain my BSI up to 5.
so what should i do? :)

n3r086
06-26-2012, 01:54 AM
Looking for advice on how to allocate future stats. Especially if the Demi Quests and Atlantis are released for iOS only users.

Lvl 156
225 Energy
211 Stamina
264 Attack
200 Defense
130 Health
575 Army

I'm a hybrid build that participates in guild battles and monster hunts. I will do just enough PvP to get the SP's and achievements.

I'm going to put the majority of points into Attack but my main question is where should I "cap" my Energy, Stam, and Defense? Not a CC'er and don't do FP refills...yet

BSI 2,974358974
LSI 4,147435897

If you want to be hybrid, I suggest balancing your BSI and LSI (around 3.5-4 for both). At your early level, I suggest getting your energy and stamina to at least 288 first (or 300 if you like round numbers). this will help you speed up a little bit also serves as a pool when you can't log in for 24 h for attack and defense, I think 510 is a good start (it's a tower feat checkpoint just in case why not 500 pts)

BSI = (attack + defense)/level
LSI = (energy + (stamina*2))/level


I have 2 accounts that I need help with.

The first one

Level 42
Energy-51
Stamina-30
Attack-145
Defense-145
Health-100


The second one

Level 214
Energy-185
Stamina-170
Attack-435
Defense-403
Health-261

Thanks

What would you want to do with this 2 accts (I assume 1 is from FB and the other from iOS). PvP? Hybrid? Hunter?


If I want to be the monster hunter, which stats should I add into? Thanks again :)

663 Max Energy
545 Max Stamina
1111 Attack
600 Defense
301 Max Health
427 Army Size

I am LV 439! Where should I put my points in? Give some advice thanks in advance~

Generally, monster hunters benefits from having more stamina. I suggest keep adding stamina and don't stop at 1000 ;)
why not attack? Attack have diminishing return per point after certain point (idk, 1200? others have to confirm this - or you might want to dig for some posts by Kerowyn (I think))
BUT if you want to be able to hit/defend more in PvP (you'll encounter PvP-er in guild battles and other parts of the game), adding attack is good too. Add sparingly, sky is the limit

also check the tower feat achievement, you might want to add your stats to complete it
you haven't maxed your energy, defense and health achievement.


Defense is for Sissies... Ca is built towards favoring cannons... As for Energy... I wouldn't go over 350 just for the simple fact.. Eventually you will run out of quests.... Stamina.... 611 would be my ideal number 1 stam. To assist in weapon. 10 to join monster. And 600 to have a 200 stamina hit with Maalvus........ Or just 611 stamina to chain an entire guild :D

I could agree with your post, but having more energy could help hunters and levelers alike to gain more SPs and unlocking quests. Also after you've ran out of "normal" quests, there are "sink-hole" quests that's worth doing (e.g Atlantis 2) :)


i'm level 111 now

110 Energy
97 Stamina
524 Attack
27 Defense
165 Health
1364 Army

well, actually i want to be a hard hitter in monster battle, but also a pvp player.
i know i'm so lack of stam, bcoz i want to maintain my BSI up to 5.
so what should i do?

BSI 4,963963964
LSI 2,738738739

nice BSI for your level!
for now, I suggest getting your BSI to 5 first. You're almost there

after that, if you don't plan to add more to BSI, you can start adding to energy and stamina to 144 first (equals to 12 h regen time). After that, you might want to re-think your build (either sticking to PvP and pump more attack and defense OR become a hybrid and maintain your BSI-LSI)

Kryptonitez
06-26-2012, 11:55 AM
so, for now if i got bonus skill points, i put it on atk or def until i reach my BSI 5? :)

but if i put on energy or stam, my BSI will drop right?

Kryptonitez
06-26-2012, 11:58 AM
actually, what make people can hit or deal damage so high? is it bcoz they use Maalvus or Barbarus? or bcoz or their atk points?

sorry if i ask stupid question. lol. :D

sturick
06-26-2012, 01:39 PM
actually, what make people can hit or deal damage so high? is it bcoz they use Maalvus or Barbarus? or bcoz or their atk points?

sorry if i ask stupid question. lol. :D

There are 3 main ways that high damage can be acheived.

1)Increase attack. You'll get a small increase with each attack point you add.

2)Increase stamina. With a higher stamina pool you get access to buttons where you can use more stamina in a single attack. With your stamina under 100, I doubt you can do more than 20 stamina in a single attack. With a high enough pool you can have a 200 stamina button.

3)Use a multiplier general like Maalvus or Barbarus. This will effectively triple your damage output with a single click. Realize this uses 3x of your stamina as well. Getting a critical hit with one of these generals is a great way to rack up the damage.

n3r086
06-26-2012, 03:54 PM
so, for now if i got bonus skill points, i put it on atk or def until i reach my BSI 5? :)

but if i put on energy or stam, my BSI will drop right?

yep :)

BSI = battle strength index. It measures your battle ability against your peers. Attack and Defense are used in the calculation.

well, naturally when BSI goes up, LSI goes down
(idk, but I think it's possible to raise BSI and LSI altogether but it will require one to get more than normal SPs per level, I'm not good with that part of math :p)


actually, what make people can hit or deal damage so high? is it bcoz they use Maalvus or Barbarus? or bcoz or their atk points?

sorry if i ask stupid question. lol. :D


There are 3 main ways that high damage can be acheived.

1)Increase attack. You'll get a small increase with each attack point you add.

2)Increase stamina. With a higher stamina pool you get access to buttons where you can use more stamina in a single attack. With your stamina under 100, I doubt you can do more than 20 stamina in a single attack. With a high enough pool you can have a 200 stamina button.

3)Use a multiplier general like Maalvus or Barbarus. This will effectively triple your damage output with a single click. Realize this uses 3x of your stamina as well. Getting a critical hit with one of these generals is a great way to rack up the damage.

^^^ this

also they usually willing to refill with FPs (e.g slayers). But generally, if you have more stamina, you can deal more damage since you level up faster (remember, you get full refill per level up)

adam ahman
06-26-2012, 08:36 PM
sorry if i ask stupid question. lol. :D

The only stupid question...is the one never asked. ;)

Ineluki
06-26-2012, 09:52 PM
The only stupid question...is the one never asked. ;)

Or the one asked before having your morning coffee :D

stuflybikeboy
06-27-2012, 04:09 AM
Hi there :D I'm currently level 29 on my alt, and I want to focus on pvp with him so I want to make sure I get off on the right path early :D
Energy:47
Stamina: 54
Attack: 77
Defense: 3
Health: 100
I'm trying To get as far up the ranks as possible right now. A guild is hit high king around 140ish, and I want to beat his record :D

VanDavian
06-27-2012, 10:14 AM
Hi there :D I'm currently level 29 on my alt, and I want to focus on pvp with him so I want to make sure I get off on the right path early :D
Energy:47
Stamina: 54
Attack: 77
Defense: 3
Health: 100
I'm trying To get as far up the ranks as possible right now. A guild is hit high king around 140ish, and I want to beat his record :D

You may want to make yourself scarce. Having alts is illegal, if they (Facebook or CA) find you they will swing the ban hammer on you.

adam ahman
06-27-2012, 10:16 AM
Or the one asked before having your morning coffee :D

Oh yes! :D
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/Giant-Coffee-Cup.jpg

stuflybikeboy
06-27-2012, 02:33 PM
How is it illegal if I have an iPhone and fb account?

Alex1234
06-27-2012, 06:42 PM
Hi, guild battler here. I'm usually a warrior or cleric.

Level 138
E: 175
S: 85
A: 332
D: 51
HP: 600

How much atk or def should I have to win against lvl 100+ suicides? I'm trying to limit the number of ppl who can get a victory on me here.

sturick
06-27-2012, 07:19 PM
Hi, guild battler here. I'm usually a warrior or cleric.

Level 138
E: 175
S: 85
A: 332
D: 51
HP: 600

How much atk or def should I have to win against lvl 100+ suicides? I'm trying to limit the number of ppl who can get a victory on me here.

Is that health for real or typo? :eek:

I would boost my defense next and play as a cleric. With that amount of health and a solid defense you should be able to stay alive quite a long time. Make those suiciders think twice about attacking you too.

Alex1234
06-27-2012, 07:29 PM
its for reals, but active guilds tend to converge on me. Those rogues are really annoying lol.

Kryptonitez
06-27-2012, 09:34 PM
There are 3 main ways that high damage can be acheived.

1)Increase attack. You'll get a small increase with each attack point you add.

2)Increase stamina. With a higher stamina pool you get access to buttons where you can use more stamina in a single attack. With your stamina under 100, I doubt you can do more than 20 stamina in a single attack. With a high enough pool you can have a 200 stamina button.

3)Use a multiplier general like Maalvus or Barbarus. This will effectively triple your damage output with a single click. Realize this uses 3x of your stamina as well. Getting a critical hit with one of these generals is a great way to rack up the damage.

thank you. :)

phlash05
06-28-2012, 10:06 AM
Level 330 - High Commander
Energy : 560
Stamina : 212
Attack : 869
Defense : 601
Health : 510
I am monster hunting mainly..but do regular guild battles and festival guild battles. i keeping losing in duels...what must i do to do more damage

VanDavian
06-29-2012, 02:15 PM
How is it illegal if I have an iPhone and fb account?

Good question... it might still be against the rules - 2 CA accounts. Unless it's just a Facebook thing.

Haleya
06-30-2012, 06:56 AM
After being inactive for a few months I've started to play CA again, I would like some advise in stats and hopefully also some tips on what to focus on the next few weeks/months. This is where I'm at now:

☠~Haleya~☠ ~ Level 476 ~
Energy: 1000
Stamina: 600
Attack: 1250
Defense: 750
Health: 200

BSI - 4,201
LSI - 4,622

Total Generals: 62
Lands: got all lands to 480
Income per Hour: 494 million

Battle Rank: 14 - General
War Rank: 6 - First Captain
Conquest Rank: 6 - First Knight

Divine Power 110 - I've got all Demi Items, Force of Nature and 2 Divine Generals (only calculating one ofcouse)

The Generals I use to boosts stats are Hyacinth (gets me to 1240 energy), Solara (gets me to 700 stamina), Evalice (switches 225 defense to attack) and Corvintheus (adds 63 defense). For monster hunting I use Banthus, Agamemnon, and a occasionly hit by Barbarus ;) My current guild has become inactive (I'm looking for a new one!), so I'm doing monsters mostly at the moment with some PvP for fun. I'm currently hunting Aurora's and Giants for my next divine armor items. Almost unlocked Agamemnon, so he is probably next! I've completed all demi quests, and got up to level 4 in Kingdom of Heaven. I just finished Perdition, so 2 more lands and I can summon all monsters. Going for Atlantis I and III after that and get back to Ivory City for get them all to level 4.

I'm PvE minded, but I like to guild battle along the side (...need a guild for that ;)...). I would like to get some tips on what to focus on next here. My thoughts were adding stamina (to 700) and attack (to 1500) in the next few weeks. All tips/ideas are welcome!!

Thanks in advance

bebaxt
06-30-2012, 09:25 AM
i am 41 lvl scout. I want to become an invader and duelist in the end.
For now my stats are:
energy:152
stamina:80
attack:39
defense:2
health:101
army size:153
until now i have been doing quests and helping out for some monsters. what would u suggest me to do?

Nubiesan
06-30-2012, 03:39 PM
Hi
I am lvl 447 Baron, Lvl 4 Lieutenant in War.
Stats are:

Health: 732
Defense: 732
Attack: 1335
Stamina: 467
Energy: 507

Army: 1541


I mostly fight monsters and participate in guild battles. I am often creamed in duels. I just bought Kanbe and his boots, since I did not have any, as well as Brakus.

I don't have a lot of divine items, and am not sure where to dump my points to build a character that can earn a lot of the cool equipment. Lately I have been concentrating on attack and stamina (other stats were to complete the festival tasks).

So am I in decent shape for monsters and guild battles? Should I be trying to earn battle hearts to create the attributes? Should I forget the older stuff and work on the newer alchemy items?

All suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance

Edit: I have 48 generals, none from chests. I have Barbarus and Kaiser -- is Maalvus worth it? I have been using Elora in duels; of my crew, is there someone better?
Thanks again

Currently Own:
Brakus
Kanbe
Solara
Elora
Sanna
Daphne
Zin
Adrianna
Deshara
Kaiser
Barbarus
Kataan
Darius
Deianira
Cartigan
Leon Ironheart
Araxis
Hyperion
Vanquish
Nautica
Serra Silverlight
Celesta
Noktar
Arielle
Elizabeth Leone
Dante
Dexter the Drunk
Elin
Lilith and Riku
Valiant
Persephone
Titania
Morrigan
Sephora
Terra
Shino
Mercedes
Edea
Garlan
Sano
Zarevok
Cid
Aeris
Elena
Penelope
Dragan
Sophia
Strider

n3r086
07-01-2012, 02:50 AM
Level 330 - High Commander
Energy : 560
Stamina : 212
Attack : 869
Defense : 601
Health : 510
I am monster hunting mainly..but do regular guild battles and festival guild battles. i keeping losing in duels...what must i do to do more damage

BSI 4,454545455
LSI 2,981818182
TSI 7,436363636

You are currently strong hybrid. As a monster hunter, you have low amount of stamina, I suggest getting it to at least 360 (festival feat) then add more. If you have more stamina, you can level up faster and deal more damage in monsters.

as for why you keep losing on duels, this is your Effective Attack and Effective Defense
EA 1289,70
ED 1209,30

it's possible that you've been hitting opponents having ED over your EA. The solution is adding Attack. I suggest getting it to 1000 first, BUT after you add your stamina.


After being inactive for a few months I've started to play CA again, I would like some advise in stats and hopefully also some tips on what to focus on the next few weeks/months. This is where I'm at now:

☠~Haleya~☠ ~ Level 476 ~
Energy: 1000
Stamina: 600
Attack: 1250
Defense: 750
Health: 200

BSI - 4,201
LSI - 4,622

Total Generals: 62
Lands: got all lands to 480
Income per Hour: 494 million

Battle Rank: 14 - General
War Rank: 6 - First Captain
Conquest Rank: 6 - First Knight

Divine Power 110 - I've got all Demi Items, Force of Nature and 2 Divine Generals (only calculating one ofcouse)

The Generals I use to boosts stats are Hyacinth (gets me to 1240 energy), Solara (gets me to 700 stamina), Evalice (switches 225 defense to attack) and Corvintheus (adds 63 defense). For monster hunting I use Banthus, Agamemnon, and a occasionly hit by Barbarus. My current guild has become inactive (I'm looking for a new one!), so I'm doing monsters mostly at the moment with some PvP for fun. I'm currently hunting Aurora's and Giants for my next divine armor items. Almost unlocked Agamemnon, so he is probably next! I've completed all demi quests, and got up to level 4 in Kingdom of Heaven. I just finished Perdition, so 2 more lands and I can summon all monsters. Going for Atlantis I and III after that and get back to Ivory City for get them all to level 4.

I'm PvE minded, but I like to guild battle along the side (...need a guild for that ;)...). I would like to get some tips on what to focus on next here. My thoughts were adding stamina (to 700) and attack (to 1500) in the next few weeks. All tips/ideas are welcome!!

Thanks in advance

You have a decent hybrid build! :)
I suggest to balance your BSI and LSI. Looks like your BSI needs some working. Try getting 4.5 BSI and LSI.

PS: you are not in a guild? you might want to post in the groups and guilds sub-section. With your stat, I think many would want you as member


i am 41 lvl scout. I want to become an invader and duelist in the end.
For now my stats are:
energy:152
stamina:80
attack:39
defense:2
health:101
army size:153
until now i have been doing quests and helping out for some monsters. what would u suggest me to do?

BSI 1
LSI 6,634146341

Sounds like you want to become a PvP!
For starters, I suggest you getting more army for invading (check the forum, I think there is an "add me" thread there).
Start adding attack and defense (more likely attack first). How much? for PvP-ers, sky is the limit when adding to attack and defense


Hi
I am lvl 447 Baron, Lvl 4 Lieutenant in War.
Stats are:

Health: 732
Defense: 732
Attack: 1335
Stamina: 467
Energy: 507
Army: 1541

I mostly fight monsters and participate in guild battles. I am often creamed in duels. I just bought Kanbe and his boots, since I did not have any, as well as Brakus.

I don't have a lot of divine items, and am not sure where to dump my points to build a character that can earn a lot of the cool equipment. Lately I have been concentrating on attack and stamina (other stats were to complete the festival tasks).

So am I in decent shape for monsters and guild battles? Should I be trying to earn battle hearts to create the attributes? Should I forget the older stuff and work on the newer alchemy items?

All suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance

Edit: I have 48 generals, none from chests. I have Barbarus and Kaiser -- is Maalvus worth it? I have been using Elora in duels; of my crew, is there someone better?
Thanks again

*snip*


BSI 4,624161074
LSI 3,223713647

is your health really 732, or is it a typo? :eek:
you are currently a strong hybrid.
I'd suggest increasing your LSI so you can level up faster and deal more damage in monsters. More damage = better loots. For starters, getting 500 stamina seems the shortest goal you can achieve. After that, you might want to get at least 1000 stamina as a hunter.

for divine items, I think the route is Jahanna >> Giants/Aurora >> Ambrosia >> newer bosses (I might be wrong, but I think there is a thread about this)

EA 1847,40
ED 1666,50

for duels, well.... I think you are good for a hybrid.
Battle hearts? have you acquired Chase? if not, getting into raids will surely help you chasing him

as for the general, Maalvus is one of the best monster hunting general. I suggest getting him. Also you might want to buy Dolomar for 1 bar monsters.
for PvP general, I suggest using your Brakus or Kanbe rather than Elora. Burn or Crush your enemies :p

Haleya
07-01-2012, 08:59 AM
You have a decent hybrid build! :)
I suggest to balance your BSI and LSI. Looks like your BSI needs some working. Try getting 4.5 BSI and LSI.

PS: you are not in a guild? you might want to post in the groups and guilds sub-section. With your stat, I think many would want you as member

Thanks! I've focused on my LSI the last few weeks, as I was only hunting monsters (PvE) on my iPhone and wanted to improve my leveling speed, by adding energy. My BSI dropped by 0,5 cause of that. I'm gonna try to get a combined (TSI) of 9 by adding up to attack and a occasinal stamina point to reach my suggested goal of 1500 attack and 700 stamina within a few weeks. I'm also gonna set my luck on getting Halcyon (300+ defense) to watch my back while I'm offline.

I've posted an application in the groups and guilds section this morning. Thanks for the tip!

If anyone else as some specific tips for me (I know where to find the common tutorials), just leave a message below or just PM me.

Mateo420
07-01-2012, 10:45 AM
So, I recently returned from a nearly year long leave from the game and want advice where I should allot SP etc.

Level: 439
1763 Max Energy
500 Max Stamina
132 Attack
31 Defense
101 Max Health
781 Army Size

Nubiesan
07-01-2012, 01:21 PM
BSI 4,454545455

BSI 4,624161074
LSI 3,223713647

is your health really 732, or is it a typo? :eek:
you are currently a strong hybrid.
I'd suggest increasing your LSI so you can level up faster and deal more damage in monsters. More damage = better loots. For starters, getting 500 stamina seems the shortest goal you can achieve. After that, you might want to get at least 1000 stamina as a hunter.

for divine items, I think the route is Jahanna >> Giants/Aurora >> Ambrosia >> newer bosses (I might be wrong, but I think there is a thread about this)

EA 1847,40
ED 1666,50

for duels, well.... I think you are good for a hybrid.
Battle hearts? have you acquired Chase? if not, getting into raids will surely help you chasing him

as for the general, Maalvus is one of the best monster hunting general. I suggest getting him. Also you might want to buy Dolomar for 1 bar monsters.
for PvP general, I suggest using your Brakus or Kanbe rather than Elora. Burn or Crush your enemies :p


I have 507 health -- i built it for the festival challenge. It does tend to protect me in festival battles, since people go for the low hp people before me :)

I never quite understood the LSI and how to improve it. I usually level up every couple of days, but am not sure where to go to improve.

I have been working on the towers -- should I abandon those and head for the divine item track? I am on tower 1 vanguard, but it is a long road to get the 20k points.

Thanks for the tips!

n3r086
07-03-2012, 11:39 AM
So, I recently returned from a nearly year long leave from the game and want advice where I should allot SP etc.

Level: 439
1763 Max Energy
500 Max Stamina
132 Attack
31 Defense
101 Max Health
781 Army Size

BSI 0,371298405
LSI 6,293849658

WOW! a PL build! nice energy ^_^
now, what do you want to do with your account?

Monster hunting? Add more stamina and attack
power questing? keep adding energy
PvP-ing? you need a lot of work in this part, add attack and defense to at least 500 first


Thanks! I've focused on my LSI the last few weeks, as I was only hunting monsters (PvE) on my iPhone and wanted to improve my leveling speed, by adding energy. My BSI dropped by 0,5 cause of that. I'm gonna try to get a combined (TSI) of 9 by adding up to attack and a occasinal stamina point to reach my suggested goal of 1500 attack and 700 stamina within a few weeks. I'm also gonna set my luck on getting Halcyon (300+ defense) to watch my back while I'm offline.

I've posted an application in the groups and guilds section this morning. Thanks for the tip!

If anyone else as some specific tips for me (I know where to find the common tutorials), just leave a message below or just PM me.

If you do hunting more often than PvP-ing, having (at least) 1000 stamina as a long term goal (while balancing your BSI and LSI) wouldn't hurt much. For defense general, if you haven't got Halcy, Vanir might be a good substitute. Good luck! :)


I have 507 health -- i built it for the festival challenge. It does tend to protect me in festival battles, since people go for the low hp people before me :)

I never quite understood the LSI and how to improve it. I usually level up every couple of days, but am not sure where to go to improve.

I have been working on the towers -- should I abandon those and head for the divine item track? I am on tower 1 vanguard, but it is a long road to get the 20k points.

Thanks for the tips!

yes, for guild battles, low health players tends to get hit first (especially if they're cleric).

LSI = Leveling Speed Index = (energy + (stamina*2))/your level
To raise your LSI means to add to either energy or stamina.

As for your tower, you have the option to complete it since this tier don't require any divine items. Personally I'll suggest to complete it first to unlock the boss tier (Agamemnon). After you completed the tier, you can resume your divine equipment hunting since the boss (Agamemnon) require some DP (I think :p)

forgot to add that getting points for each tier is not that hard, just arrange your scaling with friends OR join friend's vanguard monsters OR join dedicated tower climbing groups (or assist groups, they usually have list of monsters to assist either by joining or launching weapons). I'm sure many players still trying to complete that tower. Good luck!

Cosmas
07-04-2012, 01:00 AM
I've been playing without guidance until now, so I think my stats are a little f*ed up...

Level 410
Energy 446
Stamina 420
Attack 830
Defence 408
Withstand Att 175 (I never notice this until I try to copy the stats here o.O) Someone tell me what this does...
Health 123

...and what General to use... I usually goes for Monster battle (very often Battle of the Dark Legion or Sea Serpent)

Thanks in advance...

alfterallie
07-04-2012, 07:24 AM
Withstand Att 175 is your health.
you probably have 123 army.
We're trying to get the hover-text changed to traditional labels (like health).

Nubiesan
07-05-2012, 12:04 PM
yes, for guild battles, low health players tends to get hit first (especially if they're cleric).

LSI = Leveling Speed Index = (energy + (stamina*2))/your level
To raise your LSI means to add to either energy or stamina.

As for your tower, you have the option to complete it since this tier don't require any divine items. Personally I'll suggest to complete it first to unlock the boss tier (Agamemnon). After you completed the tier, you can resume your divine equipment hunting since the boss (Agamemnon) require some DP (I think :p)

forgot to add that getting points for each tier is not that hard, just arrange your scaling with friends OR join friend's vanguard monsters OR join dedicated tower climbing groups (or assist groups, they usually have list of monsters to assist either by joining or launching weapons). I'm sure many players still trying to complete that tower. Good luck!

Thanks for the suggestions.

Mateo420
07-05-2012, 02:19 PM
BSI 0,371298405
LSI 6,293849658

WOW! a PL build! nice energy ^_^
now, what do you want to do with your account?

Monster hunting? Add more stamina and attack
power questing? keep adding energy
PvP-ing? you need a lot of work in this part, add attack and defense to at least 500 first

Well heres the thing, I want to do more PVP but there are so few opponents (I am on myspace version although I wish they would transfer my account to fb as I dont use myspace for anything else except CA) I started my build as a dragon slayer and focused solely on dragons and serpents for farming which has paid off nicely as I have over 80 FPs stockpiled. I have been working on slowly finishing my demi questing since I posted last as I realized they weren't done and its a lot of SP for me to grab (31 in the last 12 hours) and have been applying them to attack, which I now have up to 218.

Thanks for the advice.

AyakaSan
07-06-2012, 06:08 PM
Level 73
Energy 60
Stamina 60
Attack 70
Defense 772
Health 101
Army 428

I am working on army as it is a slow process but wanting to know if PVP players really need more Stamina/Energy. Doesn't bother me losing out during sleep really so I just go day by day for ages slowly.

AyakaSan
07-06-2012, 06:12 PM
http://imgur.com/TCltl
For any other help/advice to above.

Ai Love You
07-06-2012, 06:13 PM
Level 73
Energy 60
Stamina 60
Attack 70
Defense 772
Health 101
Army 428

I am working on army as it is a slow process but wanting to know if PVP players really need more Stamina/Energy. Doesn't bother me losing out during sleep really so I just go day by day for ages slowly.

Very nice wall there. You'll need more energy for some quests though.

babykiyomi
07-07-2012, 10:39 AM
level 147

energy 115
stamina 167
attack 338
defense 180
health 212

any suggestions? i enjoy both pvp and killing monsters~ :D

Ai Love You
07-07-2012, 02:48 PM
level 147

energy 115
stamina 167
attack 338
defense 180
health 212

any suggestions? i enjoy both pvp and killing monsters~ :D

That's quite a lot of health for level 147. Maybe leave the health stat alone for now and work on the others?

babykiyomi
07-07-2012, 03:49 PM
That's quite a lot of health for level 147. Maybe leave the health stat alone for now and work on the others?

tnx!:) i dunno where to add my sp now, what do u suggest? tnx a lot! :)

Ai Love You
07-07-2012, 03:58 PM
tnx!:) i dunno where to add my sp now, what do u suggest? tnx a lot! :)

It depends on what you want to do and how fast you want to play, though I can't really lay claim to any expertise in this game. You say you like battling monsters and other players, so maybe a balanced build?

babykiyomi
07-08-2012, 12:13 PM
It depends on what you want to do and how fast you want to play, though I can't really lay claim to any expertise in this game. You say you like battling monsters and other players, so maybe a balanced build?
okie! tnx for your help~:)

n3r086
07-08-2012, 12:38 PM
Level 73
Energy 60
Stamina 60
Attack 70
Defense 772
Health 101
Army 428

I am working on army as it is a slow process but wanting to know if PVP players really need more Stamina/Energy. Doesn't bother me losing out during sleep really so I just go day by day for ages slowly.

BSI 11,53424658
LSI 2,465753425

Nice defense!
Well, PvP-er do need energy for quests. If you intend to keep moving on "PvP-way", you might want to try maintaining your BSI, say, 11.5 ?

BSI = (attack+defense)/level
LSI = (energy + (stamina*2))/level

I suggest getting your energy to at least 144 (that's 12 h regeneration time). Why so much? it will help you quests to gain SPs faster.
If you intend to become a pure wall, keep adding defense.


level 147

energy 115
stamina 167
attack 338
defense 180
health 212

any suggestions? i enjoy both pvp and killing monsters~ :D

BSI 3,523809524
LSI 3,054421769

If you enjoy both, go hybrid :)
try to maintain your BSI equals to (or almost equals to) your LSI

for your current stat, I'd suggest getting your energy and stamina to 288 or 300 first. Attack and defense to at least 500. Health? if you do guild battles, I'd say your current health is enough for your level (though you have the option to add more, I think it's enough. Adding more to it will slow down your progress for now)

babykiyomi
07-08-2012, 03:21 PM
BSI 11,53424658
LSI 2,465753425

Nice defense!
Well, PvP-er do need energy for quests. If you intend to keep moving on "PvP-way", you might want to try maintaining your BSI, say, 11.5 ?

BSI = (attack+defense)/level
LSI = (energy + (stamina*2))/level

I suggest getting your energy to at least 144 (that's 12 h regeneration time). Why so much? it will help you quests to gain SPs faster.
If you intend to become a pure wall, keep adding defense.



BSI 3,523809524
LSI 3,054421769

If you enjoy both, go hybrid :)
try to maintain your BSI equals to (or almost equals to) your LSI

for your current stat, I'd suggest getting your energy and stamina to 288 or 300 first. Attack and defense to at least 500. Health? if you do guild battles, I'd say your current health is enough for your level (though you have the option to add more, I think it's enough. Adding more to it will slow down your progress for now)
okie ill do that~:) tnx so much for your help~:)

Draconus
07-08-2012, 06:12 PM
okie ill do that~:) tnx so much for your help~:)

120 would count as bare minimum for Energy unless you just enjoy leaving an energy boosting general on duty every night when you log off. Currently the single most expensive quest requires 120 energy (Undead Embrace quest. Boss quest to acquire the summon orb for Lotus.)

adam ahman
07-08-2012, 06:32 PM
120 would count as bare minimum for Energy unless you just enjoy leaving an energy boosting general on duty every night when you log off. Currently the single most expensive quest requires 120 energy (Undead Embrace quest. Boss quest to acquire the summon orb for Lotus.)

Where u been lately? :)
And to think you'd ever stop playing, shame on me! :o

StJason
07-09-2012, 12:53 AM
Level 477

Energy: 1000
Stamina: 608
Attack: 1100
Defense: 882
Health: 602

Current evil plan: Def to 1000, Stamina to 900. Stupid? Pointless? Missing the obvious?

General build, more monsters and quests then PvP. I'm focusing on Def right now because I'm getting pretty constantly hammered in PvP, so reducing that trickle-loss every day would be a nice thing.

n3r086
07-09-2012, 02:17 AM
Level 477

Energy: 1000
Stamina: 608
Attack: 1100
Defense: 882
Health: 602

Current evil plan: Def to 1000, Stamina to 900. Stupid? Pointless? Missing the obvious?

General build, more monsters and quests then PvP. I'm focusing on Def right now because I'm getting pretty constantly hammered in PvP, so reducing that trickle-loss every day would be a nice thing.

BSI 4,155136268
LSI 4,645702306

You have a hybrid build :)
Adding those stats is not pointless as long as you can have fun with it. Defense to 1000 is a good start, but as you build your char as a hunter, I think attack will benefit you later on (attack does play part in defending yourself in PvP although at 0.7 rate). Go cannon after you reach 1K def ;)

As for stamina, you might want to go more than 900, even over 1000, to maintain your LSI :)

:eek: my gawd... you have lots of health!

CidRaines
07-09-2012, 09:19 AM
level 700

energy 1953
stamina 1016
attack 1118
defense 401
health 107

Im an ios player I believe one of the the top 5 highest on the iphone. I do not have access to all the fancy things a fb player has only recently did we get demi quests.

My plan is to be a pve hunter and help raise an ios focused monster hunter guild. Recently however it has become difficult after lvl 650 it was only 1 charge per lvl now it has become 2. Any suggestions to where i head towards stats wise?

☾ṡἅṋḭẗḕḕ☽
07-09-2012, 12:12 PM
level 700

energy 1953
stamina 1016
attack 1118
defense 401
health 107

Im an ios player I believe one of the the top 5 highest on the iphone. I do not have access to all the fancy things a fb player has only recently did we get demi quests.

My plan is to be a pve hunter and help raise an ios focused monster hunter guild. Recently however it has become difficult after lvl 650 it was only 1 charge per lvl now it has become 2. Any suggestions to where i head towards stats wise?

Alright, as a Monster Hunter wise you have the 1000 Stamina that is the golden refill rule. Go ahead and just take Energy to 2000 to match said before. You are going to want to jack up your Defense to about 1000 for Healing behind yourself properly in the mean time. After that just put them in attack as you have completed all the needed steps for everything else.

Good Job

v_forever
07-11-2012, 11:21 PM
Level 214

Energy: 415
Stamina: 405
Attack: 133
Defense: 100
Health: 127

dont know wut to do now, hope some veterans can enlighten me :)

i level about once every 1-2 days by questing and hunting monsters (usually random ones, whichever one i feel like hitting and trying to get some loots to get new heroes) and dont do a lot of pvp, thats generally my style of playing. hope i can get some suggestions on which route to take before its too late

cheers

greywulf
07-12-2012, 03:15 AM
level 374 Lieutenant General
Energy: 762
Stamina: 411
Attack: 740
Defense: 731
Health: 230

I do a lot of monster hunting however i never hit high in damage i would like to know what i should do to hit higher damage

If you have multiple monsters on the go look at having fewer at once, better to hit 1 or 2 well than 3 or 4 not so well. Was my weakness; 4 or 5 at once and doing none justice! :( (I find now, for me, 3 is a good number and I can hit my sweet spots). Upside is better loot drops!
Work out your sweet spots, if you don't already know them; this is the damage figures that consistently drop good loot on monsters. Speadsheets around to give you a guideline. Also as a rough guide Wiki gives figures for epic drops.
The obvious is get your stats up and obtain some of the juicier weapons/units/magic; I am aiming at the Terminator build, a pure monster hunter but able to handle himself in PvP (E 1036, S 1000, A 1000 (then to infinity), D 725, Health ??). I am within 10 of the top 3 stats! There is talk of health being the new defence but I work on the theory you can always buy it!

zannah
07-12-2012, 10:39 AM
Level 350

731 Energy
376 Stamina
972 Attack
20 Defense
180 Health

i just focus on monster hunting now. at the moment i want to increase my attack to 1000, then i dont know whether i should increase stamina or attack afterwards.

n3r086
07-13-2012, 01:32 PM
level 700

energy 1953
stamina 1016
attack 1118
defense 401
health 107

Im an ios player I believe one of the the top 5 highest on the iphone. I do not have access to all the fancy things a fb player has only recently did we get demi quests.

My plan is to be a pve hunter and help raise an ios focused monster hunter guild. Recently however it has become difficult after lvl 650 it was only 1 charge per lvl now it has become 2. Any suggestions to where i head towards stats wise?

BSI 2,17
LSI 5,692857143

I love your energy :p
well, the higher your level, the longer it takes to level up (naturally). You might want to keep adding to stamina. As a hunter, stamina and attack is the most important stat. Say... add stamina as much as you want (more stamina = more hit), add to attack as well. Try to maintain your LSI at a certain point, all excess SP can be allocated to other stats.

other suggestion: you might want to add a little bit defense, say 500. it will help you to deflect/strengthen/heal/cripple monsters more efficiently, thus reducing your energy consumption on monsters. The energy can be put to quests to gain SPs



Level 214

Energy: 415
Stamina: 405
Attack: 133
Defense: 100
Health: 127

dont know wut to do now, hope some veterans can enlighten me :)

i level about once every 1-2 days by questing and hunting monsters (usually random ones, whichever one i feel like hitting and trying to get some loots to get new heroes) and dont do a lot of pvp, thats generally my style of playing. hope i can get some suggestions on which route to take before its too late

cheers

BSI 1,088785047
LSI 5,724299065

based on your description, you are aiming to become a hunter. Currently, you are a hunter-leveler based on your BSI and LSI. I suggest you to get your LSI to 6, add extra SPs to attack. Aim for at least 725 energy first (festival feat.) then stamina to at least 500 (you might want to add more later on)

LSI = (energy + (stamina*2))/level



Level 350

731 Energy
376 Stamina
972 Attack
20 Defense
180 Health

i just focus on monster hunting now. at the moment i want to increase my attack to 1000, then i dont know whether i should increase stamina or attack afterwards.

BSI 2,834285714
LSI 4,237142857

wow, pure cannon! :D
As a hunter, stamina and attack is the most important stat to improve.
After you got 1K attack, you might want to add more stamina (say, 500 first). Also, you might want to get more defense to help you do energy type action in monsters.

Good luck! :)

KingofHearts
07-14-2012, 12:29 AM
lvl 408

723 energy
330 stamina
1260 attack
1000 defense
303 health

current BSI 5.539


I'm mainly a monster killing type of person and I have left the battle page for what seems to be forever ago, however, I participate in a lot of guild battles. I want to be able to defeat other players that are lvl 450-550, but at the same time I want to be able to defend myself against those same players.

Do you have any suggestions as to how I should continue building my attack and defense?

(I stopped questing and only use energy to heal my damage on monsters and only use stamina to level up, so I'm kind of a slow-leveler I guess)

Thanks in advance :)

n3r086
07-14-2012, 02:33 AM
lvl 408

723 energy
330 stamina
1260 attack
1000 defense
303 health

current BSI 5.539

I'm mainly a monster killing type of person and I have left the battle page for what seems to be forever ago, however, I participate in a lot of guild battles. I want to be able to defeat other players that are lvl 450-550, but at the same time I want to be able to defend myself against those same players.

Do you have any suggestions as to how I should continue building my attack and defense?

(I stopped questing and only use energy to heal my damage on monsters and only use stamina to level up, so I'm kind of a slow-leveler I guess)

Thanks in advance :)

LSI 3,340686275

For a strong-hybrid, your stat looks good. How about setting a goal to get a certain BSI then maintain it? say... BSI = 6? Try 3:2 A:D ratio, you are close to that.

Looking at your stat, you actually can gain a lot of SPs from questing alone. If you want to be better in monsters, I'd say add your stamina to 500 first.

Dawn Dusk
07-15-2012, 02:28 PM
Level 153 - pure pvp -ultimately want a 10 bsi - but besides obviously up att/def - where should my others be at ? (praying to 100 stamina and moonfall amulet currently)

46 - energy
69 - stamina
744 -attack
701 -defense
136 - hp

adam ahman
07-15-2012, 04:10 PM
Level 153 - pure pvp -ultimately want a 10 bsi - but besides obviously up att/def - where should my others be at ? (praying to 100 stamina and moonfall amulet currently)

46 - energy
69 - stamina
744 -attack
701 -defense
136 - hp

The build below is the classic (old-school) pvp build.

120 - energy (+74)
120 - stamina (+51)
744 -attack (infinite)
701 -defense (infinte)
136 - hp (?)

This build gives u the ability to:
- lose less regeneration for energy/stamina.
- for questing you will actually need (120e)
for the "Undead Embrace" quest, in the Undead Realm, to summon Lotus Ravenmoore.
- more stamina gives more pvping/hunting.
That's 176 days worth of prayers.

Dawn Dusk
07-15-2012, 06:23 PM
The build below is the classic (old-school) pvp build.

120 - energy (+74)
120 - stamina (+51)
744 -attack (infinite)
701 -defense (infinte)
136 - hp (?)

This build gives u the ability to:
- lose less regeneration for energy/stamina.
- for questing you will actually need (120e)
for the "Undead Embrace" quest, in the Undead Realm, to summon Lotus Ravenmoore.
- more stamina gives more pvping/hunting.
That's 176 days worth of prayers.

thanks - in no hurry - haven't added a point to anything but attack or defense yet - not gonna start anytime soon lol