***OFFICIAL*** Arena IV Comment Thread ~ Week One

[Caledon]

vanguard is 50600 points over 15 battles so you need 3400 avg to maintain rank. i am already behind and will never catch up unless i refill. NOT!

Don't most MHs refill when they fight monsters?

So, what's 5FP per battle or 25FP per day? That's nothing compared to what some MHs spend on monsters on a monthly basis. In fact, Arena 4 will only cost 525FPs if you refilled every battle every day. I think going for 3 FoNs in a month's time may cost more than that.

And didn't a lot of MHs glutted on refills in Arena 3, thereby screwing the true PvPers? :)

[gifty]

Don't most MHs refill when they fight monsters?

So, what's 5FP per battle or 25FP per day? That's nothing compared to what some MHs spend on monsters on a monthly basis. In fact, Arena 4 will only cost 525FPs if you refilled every battle every day. I think going for 3 FoNs in a month's time may cost more than that.

And didn't a lot of MHs glutted on refills in Arena 3, thereby screwing the true PvPers? :)

i just got FoN and i refilled about 10-12 times (120 fps) to get it in 3 weeks time. 525 fp is 4x my monthly budget ... maybe 20x my budget if i get fp purely from monster farming.

ya A3 was ok for monster hunters willing to battle 8-10 times a day.

[crash1]

i thought that these guys were strong, there were at least 5 players over lvl 1000 with the same amount of health as me, but he picked on the small guy, he is only 4 times my lvl,
King Morten♖ṪḺ₩ ♖ of Team Zenarean Guard was VICTORIOUS in battle against crash {DfA}, taking 38 damage and dealing 94 damage rendering crash {DfA} STUNNED!

[tjjl]

@crash, ur point? Its arena, hes probably helping his team win...

[crash1]

woul you not attack someone closer to your lvl so you get more points, some one like this, Sigfried
Level: 1321
Class: Cleric
Health: 643/1500
Status: Good
Arena Activity Points: 4000
a lot lower health, more active and a cleric
i gess it must just be the way i play

[234ever]

2 wins and 11 losses ... that's just great ...

I think I'm just gonna stop wasting my time being a team player and just go for points no matter what.

All the mages that don't do anything but poly and confuse are driving me crazy!!!!

[Haleya]

2 wins and 11 losses ... that's just great ...

I think I'm just gonna stop wasting my time being a team player and just go for points no matter what.

All the mages that don't do anything but poly and confuse are driving me crazy!!!!

I hear ya. Lost 7 times in a row now... I'm thinking about going to poly-farm 240's too, just for points.

[n3r086]

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1808/lol3ed.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/lol3ed.png/)

finally I can upload this :p

[Haleya]

If only ppl would listen...

[hetejorn]

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1808/lol3ed.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/lol3ed.png/)

finally I can upload this :p

I go with the LOLOL

[thomasj8]

If only ppl would listen...

Why would anyone listen to angry comments posted in a battle chat?

[hetejorn]

Why would anyone listen to angry comments posted in a battle chat?

Well, sometimes it's can be the difference between winning and loosing... Sometimes mages are TOO obsessed with their poly's to recognize the possibility of winning. Not saying all mages are like that. But have been in 2 battles, where in one the mages actually listened and we won and in the other they prolly didn't read anything (or did) and were just selfishly getting their 240's and the battle was lost with 2 kills less. The difference could have been in our favor I am still sure...

[Ozymandias46]

It would be great if we could add the power of our reinforcements and I hope that when this bug gets fixed that the five days before trading out will start on the day they start working and not the first day of arena.

Dong the reinforcements is a PITB (pain in the butt) so please make them work for a change. Thank you CA!;)

[hetejorn]

I would like to thank all the participators in Arena for the Battle Points they offer. I have seldom seen some many Princes, Kings and High Kings in my lvl bracket. I thought there were more than I ever encountered, but didn't think that their were this many. Thank you for not hiding before Arena battles start :)

[Korath the Blade]

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1808/lol3ed.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/lol3ed.png/)

finally I can upload this :p

One of my battles was like that. All my team polyed or confused by a couple of mages who refilled to do that. At the end they forgot to hit us...:rolleyes:

[n3r086]

One of my battles was like that. All my team polyed or confused by a couple of mages who refilled to do that. At the end they forgot to hit us...:rolleyes:

LOL :p
tbh, I hate poly spammers ...
if they place the poly/confuse on active targets, that's acceptable
but on inactive enemies :confused:... what did they smoke before battle?

[manekoneko]

I don't know if anyone has said this before, but, for 2 days running my team hasn't won more than 3 out of 9 battles. Is it me? Am I always assigned to the same lame people? I am one of the weaker people on the team so I can't dominate anything.

Edit: next day...losing worse than ever in 1st battle of the day :(

[hetejorn]

I don't know if anyone has said this before, but, for 2 days running my team hasn't won more than 3 out of 9 battles. Is it me? Am I always assigned to the same lame people? I am one of the weaker people on the team so I can't dominate anything.

In order to highten your chance of winning battles, 5 miutes before the battle starts, you can check their and your towers. At least it gives you an inclination if you have a chance if winning.
I did not enter my current battle since I saw that more than half was in the 300's and lower. While the opposing team had only 5 or six in the 300- region. Within 5 mins the guild had lost 14 people. And I did not miss out on points cause I did not enter... I still have that battle for later today and a 2 hr break :p

[General Usana]

Sadly my schedule thus far gives me 5 chances to enter a day(and at least two are late entry battles at 30 after). If I want to make use of all five battles I have to go with what the draw gives me. I figure even reduced points are better than none).

However, that still doesn't tell you whether you will have any actives.

[Synelle]

Mages, mages everywhere! Gah!

That is all

[tjjl]

I'm a poly mage, but I normally poly and then hit people with lower health for 240. So I'm still contributing, just half as much.
Of course, once I'm stunned and there are no clerics in my gate (last 3 battles) I have to actually bring out my sword and fight properly, normally for 200 a hit :(

[ac0mputerguru]

OK, this has happened a FEW times. I'm a level 142 and I battle someone who is weakened and is a level 77...AND THEY WIN!!! I've about had it Castle Age...:mad:

[hetejorn]

OK, this has happened a FEW times. I'm a level 142 and I battle someone who is weakened and is a level 77...AND THEY WIN!!! I've about had it Castle Age...:mad:

They prolly have High BSI, And being weakened does nothing for a higher or lower chance to win. It just means your close to stunned... Increase or att stats.

[thomasj8]

OK, this has happened a FEW times. I'm a level 142 and I battle someone who is weakened and is a level 77...AND THEY WIN!!! I've about had it Castle Age...:mad:

Try adding to attack instead of health, stamin or energy. :rolleyes:

[hetejorn]

Sadly my schedule thus far gives me 5 chances to enter a day(and at least two are late entry battles at 30 after). If I want to make use of all five battles I have to go with what the draw gives me. I figure even reduced points are better than none).

However, that still doesn't tell you whether you will have any actives.

A therefor I say "highten" the chances. Not saying it's clear cut math...

[n3r086]

I'm a poly mage, but I normally poly and then hit people with lower health for 240. So I'm still contributing, just half as much.
Of course, once I'm stunned and there are no clerics in my gate (last 3 battles) I have to actually bring out my sword and fight properly, normally for 200 a hit :(

happens with me in battles too...but usually I apply confuse to any high level active rogues first. :D

rarely uses poly except it's close to the end of the battle and there is high level enemy with close to 200 health, to encourage others to hit.
*there's poly snatcher everywhere :p, especially when the timer almost up*

[Slaytanic]

Arena 4 the battle of the polymorphs and confusions. At least some people still play to win and get the bonus.

[hetejorn]

I am glad Poly's are used mostly for 240's. Means that for most people I am too low lvl to poly. It sometimes does give me the chance to poly snatch. And some mages actually get the poly snatching thing and actually look if there poly's are snatched and repeat polying the same dude. I think more and more mages actually start to understand that Rogue/mage combo allows for 240's in combo with high damage AND kills... It's a slow learning process, but they are getting there :)

[alnitak]

I am glad Poly's are used mostly for 240's. Means that for most people I am too low lvl to poly. It sometimes does give me the chance to poly snatch. And some mages actually get the poly snatching thing and actually look if there poly's are snatched and repeat polying the same dude. I think more and more mages actually start to understand that Rogue/mage combo allows for 240's in combo with high damage AND kills... It's a slow learning process, but they are getting there :)

Yeah, as a Rogue, I sure wish I could communicate with my mage teammates. Would like to get a 240 hit...haven't had one in two days!

[Synelle]

Thing is mage has become the 'win more' class and little else.

You outnumber the enemy - poly/confusion allows mages to turn a narrow win into a complete rout.

Even numbers - whoever has the most active rogues/warriors wins

Fewer numbers - more rogues/warriors gives you a chance to steal the win if its only a 1-3 person difference, mostly mages you will lose every time

Clerics can add a random factor but it depends on what the clerics are doing. Dispelling confusions makes a massive difference but depends which actives you keep clean and most won't do this because the points suck. Keeping your gate in the fight for full damage with +10/+14 also makes a big difference in a battle with lots of actives on each side.

[alnitak]

Seems like there are a lot less clerics this time around. In about half of my battles, I don't even have one in my tower!

[General Usana]

I am glad Poly's are used mostly for 240's. Means that for most people I am too low lvl to poly. It sometimes does give me the chance to poly snatch. And some mages actually get the poly snatching thing and actually look if there poly's are snatched and repeat polying the same dude. I think more and more mages actually start to understand that Rogue/mage combo allows for 240's in combo with high damage AND kills... It's a slow learning process, but they are getting there :)

You know snatch has a negative connotation. . . When I go around polying 240's as a mage I do it entirely so that rogues and clerics can hit and apply their bonuses. However, I only poly actives that I can not beat without poly, so I do sometimes poly/hit myself. But if the enemy team has that few actives that I can't beat the win is about foregone anyways(since then they just get mage splashed like hell)! Well unless you run into a 282 who can resist a poly from a level 272 with a BSI just a little over six. That guy is annoying. He also has decently high health(well more than I do anyways). Not sure what to do with him.

[Purps]

OK 10 battles in a row. Highest we had is high hundreds they have a handful between 1000 and 1800. No surprise we keep loosing. How the heck are teams arranged because its not based on levels?

They are all active we have a few active again we loose big time.

Getting good points i.e. +25% over a -25% is pure luck. No skill involved what so ever. Getting 240/200/160/100/50 points is based on you but the +50% difference for a win/loss is pure luck and 10 fights in a row I have been on the side that doesn't stand a chance of winning. That's a chance of 1024 in 1, so hopefully my next 1024 battles I will be on the side that stands a chance? Wont be taking bets though.

[Unique1267]

Arena 4 - hit and miss imho.

My definition and understanding of Arena is solo competition to compete and find out how good you are at battling in a limited time frame. One that is designed for all to have fun no matter what type of build you are and hopefully give everyone a shot at doing well (of course PvP will have better chance at this then ones who arent, but to at least give everyone a chance at doing well).

**Disclaimer (get this cleared up first) I am NOT a PvP so I have NO hopes or aspirations of being at the top. I am a hybrid, who prefers to hunt monsters but I also do like to do some PvP at times. To me Arena gives me the chance to put hunting monsters on hold for short time getting to have fun experiencing this part of the game as well. But since I have a hybrid build I just want to do as well as I can and have some fun.

While I can see several small instances of what the Dev's have intended to do with Arena 4 .. overall I just do NOT get what they were trying to attempt here. I mean yea obviously to make money by providing some new fun format for their players, but more specifically I am at a loss.

New Arena .. lets take the most hated arena format to date to try and improve = HUH!!
Lets listen to lot of things the players were complaining about last time and try to alleviate that = Check, effort was done here.
Lets do a team format GB for solo competition = OMG seriously epic fail for so many reasons.
A fun and fairly well designed aspect of CA, but put into a solo competition consisting of "fake" guilds kind of defeats part of what makes GB so great. I tend to think dev's are trying to encourage people to talk and get to know fellow CA players. Except if one really wants to do this they would join an actual Guild, and you can meet your own guildies PLUS all the ones you compete against in GB. Or it can be done simply through this medium .. forum. Quite simply you cant force players who dont want to do this, so while I have met and added one person ... this cant be it.

GB and especially Fest GB seem to be fairly popular for most, so maybe the dev's are just looking at this and trying to incorporate this into an Arena format. Except if they really want to make it more for a solo competition, why keep the GB point system, where every two hours that fake guild is non-existant and really the points no long matter. To me, I could understand keeping the point system ONLY for determining if your guild wins or loses. But each player should have separate point system determining how they rank up. Just one idea, keeping track of how many battles you won. This would alleviate several issues (although is not entirely fool proof), but it would help to encourage more team guild play instead of just going after the juicier 240 pt targets.

The way it is now almost makes me wonder if the Devs didnt do it this way on purpose trying to make us choose between whether to be more selfish or more team oriented. Its not trying to see whom is the best and so ultimately this is going to fail so far as an Arena solo competition.

Limited guild battles = Great, proves they listened.
It is much harder to so call buy your way to the top, and does what I believe is more intended. You can buy and have a better advantage, but you do not have too. Except once again precisely how they implemented this leaves me dumbfounded. Their are 12 battles a day you are slotted in and you can only actually take part in 5 of those. Meaning 58% of the battles you are inactive. This is not counting the ones who dont do all 5 per day nor ones whom have already given up so its more like 75% inactivity for every battle. HUH!!! What the hell were the dev's thinking here. Were they trying to emiliate what a real GB is like, I certainly hope not as this is one of, if not the worst part of an actual GB. Are they trying to encourage everyone to be more active playing CA all through out the day, once again I hope not as for many this is just unrealistic.

The 25% win/loss percentage to your points, I personally am not a fan of, but it should balance itself out to some degree. I am thinking this is done to try and encourage more team play instead of selfish play. I could be wrong, but I honestly do not think this will change how anyone plays so is just futile. To me watching people who do not know how to do a GB, nor do you have time to teach them in an hour, is just not fun. (note - I am no expert but I at least know better than lot things I see being done) It is also dis-heartening to watch players go for selfish points instead of team win. While I have already stated I do not blame this, at same time the end result is still not fun in a so called supposedly team environment battle format.

End result, what I have found myself doing is joining 1 or 2 battles a day if I have spare 20 stam for the last 10 min of play, getting in my 11 or so tokens and collecting my points and I will continue to hunt monsters instead of putting them on hold. Hoping for a better arena down the road. Or maybe I will take some time catching up on some actual PvP. Arena 4 is just so so to me and not what I was hoping for.

[wickedwords]

Many names I recognized in my last battle, and as I 6+ BSI, I knew I couldn't beat any of 'em. The rest of the team was pretty much the same quality of PvP player. Sucked for my team -- and for my total points! -- but awesome to know I'd made it to such a rough round.

[Targus]

I'm sure this has been asked but can someone tell me why it is if I fight an arena battle at 10pm pacific time I end up losing a fight for the following day?

[alnitak]

After a couple of days of seeing the EXACT SAME PEOPLE on the teams I'm playing it's getting really frustrating. With probably hundreds of thousands of people playing this game (even tens of thousands), why are the same 40-50 people showing up in every battle??

The devs "randomness" sucks, and the teams could be a lot more balanced then they are (hint, start by level, then prior activity, then class and even the teams out!! It's a relatively simple algorithm.).

There must be hundreds of other players out there that are near my level, even in the AV tier. Why am I constantly seeing the same killer opponents that are hundreds of levels above me? It's really getting tiring having to spend half of my tokens on guaranteed losses. I find it hard to believe that there are only 100-150 people in AV tier. But yet, there's only been about that many unique names I've seen in three days of battle. What kind of screwy artificial grouping are the devs doing??

Why does one side have 10-12 >1100 level players, and the other team has two? Why are there towers with no clerics, while others have 4-5? If you are going to make it a GB format, with such a huge penalty (or reward) for a loss (win), then put some effort into establishing balanced teams!! Otherwise, jettison the whole format!!

[Slaytanic]

Vanguard and AV levels are full of high BSI people. At 5.6 lev 367 finding 240 pt targets is difficult. I just can't make myself be a mage and just PM for points. It may gain me more but that's such a lame way to play. Not only that but my guild teams are frequently filled with the same people on both sides. I'll be happy if I hang on to Vanguard and get the glove.

[Purps]

alnitak. I agree thats what i am trying to say too. These towers/guild are so biased its unreal. Time and time again we have a few lvl 300's active they have 4 times as many active and all thousands of levels higher. We are all dead in minutes. No abilities to use, only losses as they are untouchable and -25% for trying. NO SKILL WHAT SO EVER in this arena. Why they couldn't put highest lvl in T1 guild 1 then 2nd highest in T1 guild 2, Next in T2 Guild 1 next in T2 guild 2 etc. That way it only depends on who shows up and everyone can test their BSI out.

[alnitak]

Vanguard and AV levels are full of high BSI people. At 5.6 lev 367 finding 240 pt targets is difficult. Not only that but my guild teams are frequently filled with the same people on both sides. I'll be happy if I hang on to Vanguard and get the glove.

I hear you. AT level 277 and a BSI of >7, I'm lucky if I can find 1-2 people to beat at all in each match, much less a 240 target. It doesn't help that the devs' team generation code keeps cycling the same 100 names or so. With tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people playing A4 there's no reason there can't be more variety in the teams (and see my note above for making them more balanced!).

[lionheart555]

I get the same 30-60 people in my battles. Namely forumites and people in my guild. The teams are set based on the number of points you have.

[thomasj8]

I'm sure this has been asked but can someone tell me why it is if I fight an arena battle at 10pm pacific time I end up losing a fight for the following day?

It is a glitch, and has been discussed in another thread. Avoid that time slot or you will keep losing a fight the following day.

[thomasj8]

I get the same 30-60 people in my battles. Namely forumites and people in my guild. The teams are set based on the number of points you have.

I agree that it seems to be based most on Arena points. I see some of the same people in most battles, but they also are entering data into Tim's spreadsheet and their points are within 2-5% of my points.

[lionheart555]

Just a comment on the arena itself, I am actually having the time of my life. Despite a few poly/confusers in my battles, most of the players I see over and over again are just playing for fun and the win and not only for the points anymore. I see more rogues and clerics again than mages. Actually I think a few mage bashers in my battle are making people rethink being mage LOL. Don't care about the glitches anymore or the first day complete **** up. This was definitely worth the time and fp I spent to make it to the top.

[Synelle]

For those whining there aren't enough clerics and they should be spread evenly quit complaining. Odds are you haven't been playing cleric yourself. You want more clerics then play one.

As it is clerics are very disadvantaged when it comes to effectiveness and points. Little wonder why so few people are playing them and more are switching to mages or rogues.

[thomasj8]

Just a comment on the arena itself, I am actually having the time of my life...

I'm with you, in that most of my battles have had great people who spam the chat log and have fun. At this point, the temptation to refill has nothing to do with points for me. Instead I get tempted when it is a really close fight that could alter based upon whether I refill or not :D

For those whining there aren't enough clerics and they should be spread evenly quit complaining. Odds are you haven't been playing cleric yourself. You want more clerics then play one.

As it is clerics are very disadvantaged when it comes to effectiveness and points. Little wonder why so few people are playing them and more are switching to mages or rogues.

I have been switching between Cleric, Mage and Rogue. Just switched back to Cleric and got slotted in the top spot of the North Gate. Call me Mr Popular ;)

[Defyeler]

vanguard is 50600 points over 15 battles so you need 3400 avg to maintain rank. i am already behind and will never catch up unless i refill. NOT!

I love that about this arena. I only have to do 2 battles a day to get the gloves! Yay! :D

[smokeytripod]

I love that about this arena. I only have to do 2 battles a day to get the gloves! Yay! :D

i haz to do more cuz as usuall im late to the arena lol :p

[Wesley Bones]

During my third arena battle at 12:00 central 7/31/11, I tried to use a token I was redirected to some girl's castle age page. I was unable to use a single token. I wasted one of five battles for the day. Can you fix this and compensate me? Also, day one was a complete disaster. I was only able to battle twice. Total Arena Points: 79,411 Arena Points Gained: 0
Total Wins: 11 Wins Gained: 1
Gold: +2,000,000 Experience: 22

[Haleya]

I have been switching between Cleric, Mage and Rogue. Just switched back to Cleric and got slotted in the top spot of the North Gate. Call me Mr Popular ;)

Same here current Arena battle:... I rolled top slot NG and I was down in a blink of an eye :) ~

I'm switching between mage and cleric now when I'm online, and at night I stay with Rogue: hoping Evasion will drain some enemy tokens :D

[lionheart555]

Rogue when I am online. Cleric when I'm asleep. The Rogue is great for getting a high kill count if your stats are reasonable.

[abcdef_157]

Not sure if anyone asked this already (don't have the time right now to go through the whole 57 pages in the thread), but is anyone getting the Bonus Damage from Reinforcements?
My Reinforcements are finally at full after not working for the first few days, but I'm not getting the +50 damage. I know because I paid very close attention to all my hits (and opponent's health) on the last 2 battles, and nothing went through.
If that's a problem for everyone, then the field is level and I don't care, but if it's working for some but not others, I really wish that something would be done about it.

Thanks for any info!

[alnitak]

I get the same 30-60 people in my battles. Namely forumites and people in my guild. The teams are set based on the number of points you have.

I understand that, and have even referred to the tiers they establish by ranks. But 2% of tens of thousands of people is a heck of a lot more than 50-60!!

[Baub {M∉r¢} Dylan]

I've noticed an uncanny amount of the same people in battles, I know it's tier's and what not but come on the battles are 90% lopsided I am scouting my team to see if we have a chance and then join only if I think we have a chance. last night i was on a team with 11 people over 1K and the opposing team had 3 people over 1K and I was working one of them over. So, I think that this random needs to be a little governed.

[crash1]

i have always been a mage, as i have all the goodies inc Zurran, i am the one that will always have a few tokens to clean up or help low lvl rogues bring down higher players.
but i have only been given 4 battles a day so from now on im in it for me untill they fix it.
poly and confuse everyone

[The Reaper]

Mage, Cleric, Rogue? Screw that.....I'm laying a whirlwinding path of utter destruction on my field trip for glory.

[Dezmodian]

Been cleric, but from what I've read, sounds like I should use mages.

[lionheart555]

Mage, Cleric, Rogue? Screw that.....I'm laying a whirlwinding path of utter destruction on my field trip for glory.

I like this post :D

Yeah a lot of cannons and others I know are going this route. It's an amazing offensive class. And with all the bonuses and arena reinforcements it's probably better than rogue.

[Blak Ryder]

I like this year of all. I wasnt gonna join this one to be honest because of how last years went. I love the format for the arena and I think that this time its much more fair than the rest. I couldnt get in the first day until late but thats to be expected and they fixed whatever the problem was promptly. so kudos castle age I wont gripe this time ;)

[hetejorn]

I notice a lot of people taking about seeing a lot of the same people. I doubt if the 2 percent group is very big. So when you are in that group early, chances are bigger that you see the same people. Also Groups of people lvl-ing up together have more chance of meeting each other. As the AV and Vanguard fill up during the day, the mix becomes larger. In my morning I see the same people constantly, while in my eve, when all of the USA enters the battle, I hardly see the same people anymore...
I COULD be completely wrong, but I am not.

[Elandal]

I think more and more mages actually start to understand that Rogue/mage combo allows for 240's in combo with high damage AND kills... It's a slow learning process, but they are getting there :)
With normal 20-25 person gates, mages do way more damage than rogues. With 10 person gates, a mage with zurran + alexandria still does more damage than a rogue.
For most damage you want warrior, but short battles limit the confidence bonus somewhat (getting to +90 takes the first 9 hits, from tenth on it's +90).
Rogues are good for poisoning, which is accounted for in the main target damage for warriors, spilling to sides with whirlwind. Other than that.. Why are you a rogue anyway?

Yes, there're things rogues are best suited to. But it's not for taking down polyed targets - rogues that can't hit high without poly should change class.

[hetejorn]

With normal 20-25 person gates, mages do way more damage than rogues. With 10 person gates, a mage with zurran + alexandria still does more damage than a rogue.
For most damage you want warrior, but short battles limit the confidence bonus somewhat (getting to +90 takes the first 9 hits, from tenth on it's +90).
Rogues are good for poisoning, which is accounted for in the main target damage for warriors, spilling to sides with whirlwind. Other than that.. Why are you a rogue anyway?

Yes, there're things rogues are best suited to. But it's not for taking down polyed targets - rogues that can't hit high without poly should change class.

1) It was about mages POLY-ing. And that doesn't do damage, does it. 2) A ton of peeps do not have Zurran (and Alexandria).
3) Many haven't got the Warrior feats. I know I don't.
4) Yep, combo mage/warrior may work well too.
5) I can hit high. Can hit higher when poly-ed.

And as to the question why I play rogue, Look at point 1,2 and 3. Have only done festival GB since those started and that doesn't exactly help growing a huge amount of Guild Coins. And the half year before that I didn't do any GB at all. So mostly I have is about the 1st Rogue feat Evade. Does that explain enough? Great...

Oh wise Elandal. Where would we be without you... Oh still here hitting as high as possible in the game, when possible using the poly opportunities given by team mates.

[MarTooth]

Mage with Zurran and Alexandria, hate all this poly's and confuse cos means everyone hates mages.... Don't matter that I only hit I tend to be dead within the first half the battle.... Mind you, that has it's advantages, my targets live longer so I can cream em for points and I don't get poly'd or confused so no 50 points stupidity (really hoped they'd sort that and set it at the same points as a defeat, ie 100) ;)

[dakkkara]

Last two days my arena score is 1-9!!!

[Princess PunkSunflower]

1) It was about mages POLY-ing.
3) Many haven't got the Warrior feats. I know I don't.
4) Yep, combo mage/warrior may work well too.
5) I can hit high. Can hit higher when poly-ed.

And as to the question why I play rogue, Look at point 1,2 and 3. Have only .... the 1st Rogue feat Evade. Does that explain enough? Great...


I know how you feel exactly, my rogue is level 5 with Evade and Backstab III, I too can hit high, but in the group I'm in I might have 1-3 viable targets, when they die I have to look for loose polys... or suicide, which would be madness while I have health. I do have Poly, but my mage is level 3 and I don't fancy taking resistance off with my low health, or doing without Evade. My cleric is level 4, but honestly a level 209 Cleric? I give myself 30 seconds to live, and I would not have reduced the opposing guilds numbers by anything, and my Warrior is level 1... so that's just not a possibility.

So I will continue to be Rogue, as it's the best I can do for my temp guild before the other guild squish me like the bug I am. :p

[SDHawk]

1) It was about mages POLY-ing. And that doesn't do damage, does it. 2) A ton of peeps do not have Zurran (and Alexandria).
3) Many haven't got the Warrior feats. I know I don't.
4) Yep, combo mage/warrior may work well too.
5) I can hit high. Can hit higher when poly-ed.

And as to the question why I play rogue, Look at point 1,2 and 3. Have only done festival GB since those started and that doesn't exactly help growing a huge amount of Guild Coins. And the half year before that I didn't do any GB at all. So mostly I have is about the 1st Rogue feat Evade. Does that explain enough? Great...

Oh wise Elandal. Where would we be without you... Oh still here hitting as high as possible in the game, when possible using the poly opportunities given by team mates.

rogue/ warrior is a better combo. Thats the guy does the poisoning, right? Poison the middle target of a group of 3, let the warrior do her thing. The poison adds to the damage, which adds to the splash on both sides. I can flat CREAM some peeps with a good rogue. :D

[Tsuteto]

Anyway, outside of the whole tactics thing...

Anyone else botching this arena as bad as I am? I keep losing track of time, and when I do get back to the arena, I find I lost the ability to use 3 other arena tokens because I've moved into the collect phase ^^;;

[Kenneth]

Anyway, outside of the whole tactics thing...

Anyone else botching this arena as bad as I am? I keep losing track of time, and when I do get back to the arena, I find I lost the ability to use 3 other arena tokens because I've moved into the collect phase ^^;;

yup, already spaced a whole day....hope i can catch up!

[alnitak]

I doubt if the 2 percent group is very big.

I thought there were tens of thousands, if not a few hundred thousand, that played Arena last time? We should be seeing at least a 1000 people in the AV ranks, if not a few thousand...way more than the 100 or so same names!

[wickedwords]

Had Ninja Chicken and Flo in my final round, both with beheaded Pooh icons. Is that a guild thing?

[echo expugno]

OK, this has happened a FEW times. I'm a level 142 and I battle someone who is weakened and is a level 77...AND THEY WIN!!! I've about had it Castle Age...:mad:

I am lvl 148, and in guild battles, bounce people that are lvl 300+ all the time. i'm certain they are mad also, but its because, I have a better build then them. It's not because I have a great build, as most anyone in the forums can squish me without thinking about it. just I had a better build then that person more then 2x's my lvl. so, my guess, that lvl 77 had a better build for duels then you.

Its not CA, its you.... Sorry

[KarmicBeing]

What's 5 fp worth? Like 50 cents?
You should hire a lawyer to begin the recovery process

What? Stealing is bad but stealing a little is OK? :rolleyes:
Basically he bought a product but didn't get to use it due to devs fault.
I'd say he has a case here :)

[n3r086]

Had 4 battles earlier and skipped for the night. just finished what is supposed to be my last battle and got another one

*removed my image, posting it in tech support*

[modbi]

I joined 4 battle yesterday. I join the battle in updating time( 7am GMT) but after daily updating the number of my remaining battle become 3 instead of 5 . any one know the reason?

[WarDemon]

I know that this is the 3rd day of me getting only 4 battles, and it's getting really old really fast!! CA Devs, I know the money is nice and all, but stop the amateur programming, go back to school, and get your 4 year degree instead of relying on the few computer programming seminars you have attended!!!

[n3r086]

just noticed that the battle and token timer is working now. Good job devs :)

[tjjl]

@whoever saw flo and NC.
A lot of people have the pooh icon up, I did see a PvPvM guy with it as well, so its probably some inside joke.

[n3r086]

uh oh, army of Poohs
*hides honey jar* :p

[cristem27]

I joined 4 battle yesterday. I join the battle in updating time( 7am GMT) but after daily updating the number of my remaining battle become 3 instead of 5 . any one know the reason?

I am just as confused. Before cut-off time it said I have 1 remaining battle for the day. After the cut-off time, and I am about to start my first battle for the day, it told me I have 3 battles left...:confused:

[Caledon]

uh oh, army of Poohs
*hides honey jar* :p

Now you know. We are forming a new guild - the Pooh Guild. Our mission is to dominate CA, and enslave all non-Poohs to gather honey for us.

And since this is the official A4 whine thread, I wanna whine. I was speed killed in my previous battle. Those big meanies took my honey pot. Lost potentially 900AP. *cries...*

A new battle has begun...and I want my revenge. ^___^

[tjjl]

OMG LOL.
Just finished a battle which ended 25/1, with the last player a lvl 1539 rogue with 1315/4400 health remaining :( :( :( :(

[hetejorn]

I just lost a battle with WAAAAY too many Mages in my Guild. Mages are becoming my nr 1 mark more and more. Not because they are so nasty opponents, but because they make such incredibly lousy team mates.

[Amanojaku]

I just lost a battle with WAAAAY too many Mages in my Guild. Mages are becoming my nr 1 mark more and more. Not because they are so nasty opponents, but because they make such incredibly lousy team mates.

Aye tis a sad truth some mages play for points and not for wins... some are good strategists and do both... but half the mofos out there are just throwing poly's around like confetti. :mad:

[MarTooth]

I'm a mage but have to agree (staying mage tho cos only ever hit anyway and as I aint top level rogue with all abilities yet and have Zurran and Alexandria it's the best option.... till I'm dead 10mins into it but then if I went cleric I still wouldn't help much as bound to be dead before able to do a decent heal up)... As to warrior, only got the first of his abilities so no whirlwind or leadership etc so that would be a waste too... Already had at least one battle where I was on the most active team but because I was one of the few actually hitting people (but was taken out in 5mins) we were slaughtered.

[Devil Of Apocalypse]

how about when sg is really interesting you post arena battle's link here so we can all see it :)

[tjjl]

I tried to find battle link, but couldn't :(

[Devil Of Apocalypse]

I could :)
I will post my next battle's link here :)

[Xelliz]

where's that Arena 4 whine thread...I want to complain again about the guild battle setup. I don't have the best BSI, but I have 10,024 duel wins with only 555 duel loses in CA and this does nothing to help me in Arena...I'm feel lucky to actually have 5 team wins in arena, but I'm sitting at stupid Gladiator :(

[n3r086]

where's that Arena 4 whine thread...I want to complain again about the guild battle setup. I don't have the best BSI, but I have 10,024 duel wins with only 555 duel loses in CA and this does nothing to help me in Arena...I'm feel lucky to actually have 5 team wins in arena, but I'm sitting at stupid Gladiator :(


having a lot duel wins and less duel losses doesn't mean anything in arena (especially when you're at alpha rank). What count is your build :) and strategy

[Devil Of Apocalypse]

tjjl, this is my current battle: http://apps.facebook.com/castle_age/arena_battle.php?id=892 :D

[Asulgard]

When mentally challenged people tries to make a challenging competition, they throw in random people in two different teams and you have to compete against chance.. Then they name it Arena.
Even the best players will lose when in a team of full inactives vs high level active team.
Is this your sense of competition Devs?
You wake the nerd rage in me by your stupidity.

[Slaytanic]

When mentally challenged people tries to make a challenging competition, they throw in random people in two different teams and you have to compete against chance.. Then they name it Arena.
Even the best players will lose when in a team of full inactives vs high level active team.
Is this your sense of competition Devs?
You wake the nerd rage in me by your stupidity.

It's really a battle to see who can do the most 240 point PMs and confusions at this point. If your team is lucky enough to have more actives that want to win and fight you win. Please devs Arena 5 should not be this lame random guild fight format.

[alnitak]

It's really a battle to see who can do the most 240 point PMs and confusions at this point. If your team is lucky enough to have more actives that want to win and fight you win. Please devs Arena 5 should not be this lame random guild fight format.

What they have done is make an Arena of Guild Battles...but without the Guild part. So, everything that makes the Guild Battles unique and fun -- from the initial strategy about how you set up the towers, to the mix of classes, to communication among players, etc. -- has been eliminated. So, you are just left with Battles...might as well make it a PvP tournament.

If you are truly going to make a GB Arena, then there are certain conditions that the devs should responsibly adhere to...e.g., balanced teams (including level, classes and activity), an ability for each team to communicate in their own tab, etc. Otherwise, GB is just a farce.

[Slaytanic]

Instead of retards that take down 5000+ health people for 240 pts causing us to lose Arena 3 battles I get retards PMing random inactives for 240 pts over and over causing us to lose Arena 4.

[MarTooth]

Course a simple addition would have made it a lot better.... two (or 3) chat logs, one for each team (and possibly the third being open chat tween members of both teams)... As much as I hate the randomness, still prefer it to War format where it's more about who can afford the top generals than anything else rendering it extremely tough for those without any top tier chest generals to get to the top but by far the simple PVP, with defensive win points was still hands down the best in most ways, yes refills were an issue but with a decent defensive build or hiding....

....Once again tho the thing that this has over Arena I & II is meeting new people and having fun in chat, if not into that it's another matter of course, generally I like it as find the luck aspect makes it more exciting :D

[ddc83]

Refill button doe not have confirmation screen. Hurts when using phone to scroll and accidentally spend 5 fp when you don't want to.

[Xelliz]

having a lot duel wins and less duel losses doesn't mean anything in arena (especially when you're at alpha rank). What count is your build :) and strategy

exactly!!! I mean at least you read my post, but obviously missed the point. I...and many others...can't stand this style arena. My point was obviously I have a good build for dueling but can't get anywhere in arena because I have to rely on others and that has lead me to 5-12 team record

[hetejorn]

Finally have a good collaboration with a mage. Do they still talk BS. Oh well, I guess teamwork is underrated these days. We had 10 stuns more than the opponent, clerics kept me functioning and thnx to the poly I could kill someone thet had 70 lvls on me. Than some stupido tells they helped me killing the dude. The helper couldn't succesfully hit that sleepy dude, removed the poly, and thnx to that I lost. The helper and me now did a combined damage of about 50 (he evaded on my lost attack). Instead of me doing about 250-260 damage. GREAT HELP!!! :mad: And to think I already killed 2 people singlehandedly and did significant damage to 2 others. I think I was entitled to some extra succesfull hits. Didn't start with those 240's untill the win was secured. At least I don't do it the other way round..:rolleyes:

Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"Clerics Thanx too!!!"
17 minutes, 49 seconds ago:
Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"Had it exactly the other way round in my last battle. It's nasty : (. But better luck next time. And thnx anonymous mage helping out with that sleepy dude. That was great teamwork. : )"
19 minutes, 59 seconds ago:
ЈцXXXXXXXXXXXXX{G} of Team Torwind Centurions wrote:
"21-13 actives wow : ("
23 minutes ago:
Justin of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"I was waiting for that Deb : )"
24 minutes, 8 seconds ago:
ЈцíXXXXXXXXXXX{G} of Team Torwind Centurions wrote:
"all i have to say is LOL"
24 minutes, 32 seconds ago:
Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"LOL, SaXXXus, I am in the relative low range of lvl, you are waaaay up there at 1500. 90 percent is in your range against 10-15% in my range."
26 minutes, 35 seconds ago:
SeXXXXien of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"it is where you see the difference between a team player or a e-peen one "
27 minutes, 20 seconds ago:
Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"There should not even be polying. Geez."
31 minutes, 16 seconds ago:
SvXX-XXik of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"We helped you kill him so we don´t have to waste tokens on poly :-D"
32 minutes, 55 seconds ago:
Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"Darn, that last attack had the odds against me, shadow kitty took the Poly away just before I hit :P"
38 minutes, 4 seconds ago:
NyXXXXXteh of Team Torwind Centurions wrote:
"The key is body count!! 240-25%(lose)=180pt per hit 160+25%(win)=200 PTA per hit. "
43 minutes, 41 seconds ago:
Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"Cause I have 2 Clerics keeping me alive. And I can kill that guy when Poly-ed."
49 minutes, 19 seconds ago:
JXXXXn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"why not worry about the active players taking you out : )"
54 minutes, 30 seconds ago:
Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"Can someone Poly the lvl 350 XXXXXX... in North? Would be very much appreciated. : )"

[Shonie]

Jorn of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"Darn, that last attack had the odds against me, shadow kitty took the Poly away just before I hit :P"
38 minutes, 4 seconds ago

muahaha :p :p

[MarTooth]

I went down to 150 health in 7mins in my last battle but had someone who kept poly'ing an inactive 190 lvl's above me so managed to stay alive for the whole battle taking them off again with only my last 2 hits loosing me health as who ever it was stopped doin poly's (assume he went below 200)... went down to 20 health then a last min heal got me back over 200 :D Course still hated the fact we had a few idiots poly'ing everyone but at least it came in usefull to help the win for once

[n3r086]

exactly!!! I mean at least you read my post, but obviously missed the point. I...and many others...can't stand this style arena. My point was obviously I have a good build for dueling but can't get anywhere in arena because I have to rely on others and that has lead me to 5-12 team record

oh, I understand your pts really well.

just a comparison
mine:Battles/Wars Won 12401
Battles/Wars Lost 450

I'm not even the best PvP-er around and I still getting hard time, being in alpha rank. What you need is good strategy. Well... it's different according your play-style, character build and battle class. Oh, and don't forgot about the luck factor :p

[hadoNo63Raikoho]

uhm why doesn't arena reinforcement dmg bonus stack with poison dng bonus :confused:

[magpac]

Because arena reinforcement dmg bonus doesn't work for anyone!

[MarTooth]

Beginning to wonder if some of those doing all confuse hits are mini's deliberately trying to sabotage the points of others to ensure the main has gets alpha... Identified a couple who seem to be doing it a lot who I'm fairly sure are secondary ID's...

...Thought 50 points for breaking out of poly was bad, but at least if you had over 200 health if you waited chances are someone would take it off but confuse, chance of 5 lots of 50, no-one is ever gonna take it off on your team, other team can't, it is so ridiculous for the arena...

As said before the mage specials can be tactically brilliant in guild battles but in the arena they points the victim looses sucks big time and is totally unfair as their is no deterrent against mages using them. Yes they sometimes fail but if they do fail the mage still gets 100 points and still looses no health, if they fail they should get zero (or being slightly nicer 50 points) points and/or damage to their own health.

[Lamf77]

I swear, my attack power in Arena seems to be getting worse and worse, but I refuse to scratch the itch that is use of favor points for arena points. It is obviously what the devs have in mind. I now need to drop to players at least 100 levels below me to even hope to get a win.
Yiikes!

[evinkuruga2]

for me 3 weeks arena is too long. 2 will be ok. :)

[thomasj8]

for me 3 weeks arena is too long. 2 will be ok. :)

I don't think they have shortened it since the first Arena. They shortened that one, but the rest have gone the distance :(

[jjtvdl]

I like to run, and run fast, but I don't like to run behind a carrot {on steroids}!
So I dropped Arena 4. :(
eezy

[jlm88]

I tripped while trying to refill my tokens. :p

[Wollknäuel]

It's not necessarily a decision between insane dedication and frustrated quitting. If both choices are bad, find a third.

I can't make 5 battles per day due to work and I am partly handicapped also (medium BSI only, medium level only, don't buy FPs, not willing to abuse Poly etc.). So I decided to go for Gladiator only - saves me a lot of stress, and I don't have to hunt this Tyrant Crown from Gehenna.

[Slaytanic]

Just was in a battle where they actually killed my entire team and got a 35% bonus. My team of course was focused on PMing inactives for 240 then actually doing anything to try and stop this. Ditch the random guild wars for A5 please devs.

[jjtvdl]

Fine, but i don't run for gladiator, kind of care s. :)

[Strider the Rogue]

same here... just play it according my available free time, and if I end up only in rank 3 or 4... so be it... I play to have fun, not to stress about the rewards I couldn't get.

[smokeytripod]

i have all the time in the world being unemployed etc so i can happily participate in arena :)...its not being stupid or anything i just dont have anything else better to do

[kiknchikn]

I'm stupid. I'm competing in it even though it bores the crap out of me just because I'm competitive. At least I haven't spent any FP on it and don't intend to, so I could be stupider I guess?

[mith]

I am not involved because it's competitive, but because it's what CA is currently offering and what everyone else is doing. I play to interact with other people; if the other people are doing Arena, that's where I am.

If I'm unable to get into another battle today, though, I'll probably be calling it quits.

[Master Gamer]

I'm looking for Vanguard Rank ... Alpha rank only gets me a mostly useless unit

[Recab]

I'm only playing so that at the end of the Arena when they announce the totals needed for Alpha I can point out that it cannot be obtained unless you use FP's.

[Matezma]

Indeed I am stupid.

[thomasj8]

I am usually standing right next to the person wearing an "I am with stupid" shirt

[kiknchikn]

I'm only playing so that at the end of the Arena when they announce the totals needed for Alpha I can point out that it cannot be obtained unless you use FP's.

There are several of us well over the cut off for AV that haven't used FP for refills. This has been far easier than Arena III, as far as competing without refills.

[Master Gamer]

I'm only playing so that at the end of the Arena when they announce the totals needed for Alpha I can point out that it cannot be obtained unless you use FP's.

I have vowed that I will NOT use refills. I am at the Alpha/Vanguard line and will likely finish Vanguard.

[Amanojaku]

Rage quit ftl!

[MarTooth]

Last night the cap went up 23K, prior nite was highest increase so far at 24K, so...

So basically get 25K in a day for your rank to be relatively safe (or improving if not alpha) you want to aim for an average of 5K per battle.

240x21= 5,040 so if going for max points you need to at least win 50% of the time
240x31= 7,440 minus 25% = 5,580 so if refilling and using poly for safe 240's safe?

160x31= 4,960

No wonder the bottomless pocket CCers with mini's at alpha are plastering the other side with poly's and confuse, even with refills they aren't safe if no 200+ targets so sabotage others points makes a big difference (and yes I have spotted alts of some unicorns but not naming names, some have multiple at alpha).

This is an observation not an attack on anyone or any group of players, if anything knowing there is a reason for something reduces irritation regardless of view of said sittuation.

[Ozymandias46]

It would be so helpful if both the recruits and to token clocks work in arena. PLEASE!:rolleyes:

[bugfight]

after my 5th (!) tie this arena season, i have to whine some more.
wtf can be the reasoning for screwing both teams in closely matched, hard fought battles???

the painfully obvious result should be neither penalty nor bonus.

[Eisdur]

Arena IV effect is noticeable:

http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/castle-age/46755028429/

[Daltarius]

My only comment is I keep ending up on the losing team and I'm gonna have to resort to just chain polying 240 point targets to even hope to stay finishing vanguard as that is all I really care about and I refuse to spend FPs to do that. Id much rather help do damage and win but when you keep losing 25% of the points earned, guess the best play is to just earn as many points as possible and the rest be damned.

[Vala Nimhendrall]

Arena IV effect is noticeable:

http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/castle-age/46755028429/

Ouch.. that should hurt the devs income...

[axis]

Arena IV effect is noticeable:

http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/castle-age/46755028429/

Ouch.. that should hurt the devs income...

50k out of 1.3 million? %wise thats not much...:rolleyes:

[alnitak]

Arena IV effect is noticeable:

http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/castle-age/46755028429/

The timing is certainly suspect, however, why would 77k people playing Arena drop their daily statistics by 40k-50k? Wouldn't it make more sense to see a rise as Arena players sign on daily?

[Eisdur]

It started this way in Arena III.
It seems a small loss, but you have to take into account the social effect of people leaving the game: it makes some of their friends quit in the mid to long term as well.

For a game that had more than 3 million players at some moments of its existence, a continuous downfall trend in their costumers base is surely hurtful.

[Slaytanic]

Arena IV effect is noticeable:

http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/castle-age/46755028429/

40-50,000 out of 1.3 million during summer when people go on vacations is not much. Jump to conclusions much? :rolleyes:

Why do people have problems spelling customers? That boycott hod group is full of people talking about costumers.

[czer]

The simple answer:

People are too busy with the Arena to play their alts.

[MarTooth]

The simple answer:

People are too busy with the Arena to play their alts.

To put it another way peoples kids stop playing when arena's are on cos Dad/Mum is sat at the puter so much so they go out and hang with their mates.

[hetejorn]

40-50,000 out of 1.3 million during summer when people go on vacations is not much. Jump to conclusions much? :rolleyes:


Was thinking the same. But I can feel some sympathy for people who think this game hurts the fun. Current battle is hurting my fun lvl considerably. Have 10 below lvl 300 in my team against 1 in the opposing team. I am getting quite agitated at this loppsidedness. Why is it so difficult to make somewhat equal guilds? That they can't take into account activeness, I can imagine. But some equality in lvl should be possible. But I no Nothing about making internet games or programming. Still it *intercoursed* up.

[Yuhake]

Random: Meh, I suck. Just breached the Vanguard cutoff with my last battle of the day. Will see myself low to middle point Hero or even high point Gladiator tomorrow - just like every day so far. =.= 5 team losses today... sigh.

Hopefully tomorrow will go better! \^o^/

[Shonie]

Random: Meh, I suck. Just breached the Vanguard cutoff with my last battle of the day. Will see myself low to middle point Hero or even high point Gladiator tomorrow - just like every day so far. =.= 5 team losses today... sigh.

Hopefully tomorrow will go better! \^o^/

Same, 0/4 today so far... just complete crushings. Not even a hope to win... all like 32-15 losses or something similar...
The -25% is just stupid. I agree with giving the winners +25%... but why punish people -25% when losing is simply a case of lopsidedness. Just give the losers the points they earned, and not punish them for things that are out of their control. :mad:

[Yuhake]

Same, 0/4 today so far... just complete crushings. Not even a hope to win... all like 32-15 losses or something similar...
The -25% is just stupid. I agree with giving the winners +25%... but why punish people -25% when losing is simply a case of lopsidedness. Just give the losers the points they earned, and not punish them for things that are out of their control. :mad:

Poor us! :(

But the Shadow Kitty-Cats shall rise anew from the ashes of today and rule the arena with our Awsum™ tomorrow! >:]

[Death of Rats]

Arena IV effect is noticeable:

http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/castle-age/46755028429/
I would hardly say that Arena is having a huge effect; although it may have caused some to walk away or take a break:

7/28 ~ 1,309,781
-8/2 ~ 1,296,308
= 13,473

Our one can say that just knowing there would be an Arena drove people away...
7/26 ~ 1,316,746
-8/2 ~ 1,296,308
= 20,438

The dip the game took the week prior to Arena being announced was more drastic with about 25,000 users less.

[Tricee]

Same, 0/4 today so far... just complete crushings. Not even a hope to win... all like 32-15 losses or something similar...
The -25% is just stupid. I agree with giving the winners +25%... but why punish people -25% when losing is simply a case of lopsidedness. Just give the losers the points they earned, and not punish them for things that are out of their control. :mad:

Oh, I abhor that lol. The last battle I didn't enter, there were 6 actives on my "team" and 25 on the other. Yeah.

I was one of 6 left alive though, whoooo~!

[Slaytanic]

I had the other team defeat my entire team today with 20 minutes left because they were too busy PMing inactive people for points. So the winning team got +35% while my team got -25% for being morons. This and the devs terrible random guild building just makes Arena 4 so much fun! Thanks devs ;) Lets see if you can top yourselves and make A5 even worse!

[hetejorn]

I had the other team defeat my entire team today with 20 minutes left because they were too busy PMing inactive people for points. So the winning team got +35% while my team got -25% for being morons. This and the devs terrible random guild building just makes Arena 4 so much fun! Thanks devs ;) Lets see if you can top yourselves and make A5 even worse!

"Even worse"? This one is still better than last Arena. Only dislike the lopsidedness. There must be remedies.

[EDIT} Darn just killed myself on Patrice.

[Eternal]

Great getting white screen... right at end...

[darkgolo]

5 tokens left in arena i can't spend and probably collect nothing
thanks castle age for screwing me out of another battle

[KimBrad]

I am level 212... Gladiator rank, but as I am only level 212... am now the lowest member of the guild/team... all the opposing members, save for 2 are much higher level than me. So I bash my corpse against people I can't hope to beat. *shrug* There is no way for me to progress any further really... I just can't take people 100-200 levels higher. There needs to be some sort of balance that makes it so that dedicated and scrappy people of lower level can make it up the ranks.

[Death of Rats]

I am level 212... Gladiator rank, but as I am only level 212... am now the lowest member of the guild/team... all the opposing members, save for 2 are much higher level than me. So I bash my corpse against people I can't hope to beat. *shrug* There is no way for me to progress any further really... I just can't take people 100-200 levels higher. There needs to be some sort of balance that makes it so that dedicated and scrappy people of lower level can make it up the ranks.
Well, depending on what class you play and what guild skills you have, you may be able to at least do better than the 100 points for losing. As a cleric, you could be getting 135 points for Healing or Dispelling your teammates. As a Mage, for PolyMorph, etc. If your build is somewhat lacking in Attack power, the cleric skills are your best bet since there is no chance of failure when using them.

Likely it won't get you enough points for Vanguard rank, but might help you obtain Gladiator. Good luck.

[Tricee]

[EDIT} Darn just killed myself on Patrice.

Qui, moi? :) What's your game name?

[KimBrad]

I don't remember choosing to be a warrior class. When did that happen? Can I change it? How?

Thanks for any help.

[KimBrad]

I don't remember choosing to be a warrior class. When did that happen? Can I change it? How?

Thanks for any help.


Okay, read the Arena help again... clicked the link for the character class page and get the home page. hmmmm.

[Death of Rats]

I don't remember choosing to be a warrior class. When did that happen? Can I change it? How?

Thanks for any help.
Warrior is the default. The option to change it is under Guild > Management > Character Class. (This will require you to be in a guild to do.)

[xujiayu]

For the past 2 days, I played only 4 battles a day. It says I've done 5 battles. If my memory serves me correctly, I only play 4 since I have my own daily activities and I'll make sure I'll use up the 5 battles a day (better to lose than to not play). I know the time that I will play, so I couldn't be wrong about this. It's a faulty system.

I'd given a try to check on the room number. I did find my room and it still said I used up my 5 battles!

People said the problem have been fixed. It's not! Please give it a check devs!

[Pang]

For the past 2 days, I played only 4 battles a day. It says I've done 5 battles. If my memory serves me correctly, I only play 4 since I have my own daily activities and I'll make sure I'll use up the 5 battles a day (better to lose than to not play). I know the time that I will play, so I couldn't be wrong about this. It's a faulty system.

I'd given a try to check on the room number. I did find my room and it still said I used up my 5 battles!

People said the problem have been fixed. It's not! Please give it a check devs!

Rules of thumb: Don't participate in the last battle before the ranking update

[xujiayu]

Thanks. No more next time.

[KimBrad]

Warrior is the default. The option to change it is under Guild > Management > Character Class. (This will require you to be in a guild to do.)

Thanks... anyone want a scrappy, level 212, Baron, monster fightin guild member? *cheesey grin*

[Synelle]

We have slots free if you want to join (link in my signature)

[_boink_]

Is there any link where there is a current listing of what the current arena points are for each level for example, the top arena point for 0-2: xxxxx top for 3-5%: yyyyy

[Sindora]

The '4 battles remaining' glitch seems to be fixed! :eek:

Praise the devs!

I hope i didn't jinx anything now or cause a crash just by saying this :p ....
but after being in the last battle before the update (I had no other choice) which has previously robbed me of 2 battles (2 different days) it now says:

"you have 5 battles remaining"

!

Now i just need to get off this losing streak and i may be able to keep up :D

[Sindora]

Is there any link where there is a current listing of what the current arena points are for each level for example, the top arena point for 0-2: xxxxx top for 3-5%: yyyyy


a thread just for that purpose :)


http://174.37.115.166/cforum/showthread.php?t=56272

or if you have someone in your guild with an Iphone (or have one yourself) it is an easy way to look it up as well

[Dus]

The '4 battles remaining' glitch seems to be fixed! :eek:

Praise the devs!

I hope i didn't jinx anything now or cause a crash just by saying this :p ....
but after being in the last battle before the update (I had no other choice) which has previously robbed me of 2 battles (2 different days) it now says:

"you have 5 battles remaining"

!

Now i just need to get off this losing streak and i may be able to keep up :D

Nope. I just got hit by it.
This (timing) should be the 5th battle of the day and "You Have Already Battled 5 Times!"
2nd time happens to me (got hit by this 4 battle thigny on day 2 but was ok next few days). Any offical place to cry foul or we just have to take it in our stride.

[jtimp69]

Well this is my first Arena battle this year (been on vacation) and I'm not impressed. Not that the fact that the battles may or may not be lop sided, not the point that refills can be bought, not the fact that Mages w/ Poly is a complete joke but what I am upset about.....CAN'T FIGHT IN MY FIRST BATTLE. Blue Orb after Blue Orb, when it does load I attack and have to completely reload the Arena to only get more Blue Orbs and then have to reload yet again.


Seriously now, you people have had this game out long enough and these stupid errors/mistakes on your end is just sad really!!! I mean how hard is it really for you folks to release something that actually works? My god one would think w/ all the money we give to this game that they could actually afford decent servers w/ decent coders that know what they are doing.

Well this rant is done...until next time, Battle On (if you can that is).

[jtimp69]

Just got this message...You do not have an on going battle with this Team currently. Wait until the next available battle.


WOW, incompetent bunch of people only ruining this game w/ every new release/feature. You guys have now successfully succeeded in every new attempt you have ever done....congrats on failing yet again.

Oh and why did you all feel the need to release a new quest during Arena time? FAIL!

[n3r086]

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8182/lol4i.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/lol4i.png/)

I think we can create a thread to collect funny Arena 4 chat log, especially those that condemns poly/confuse spammers :p

[Slaytanic]

He's right. This continuous battle of flinging PMs and Confusions is ridiculous. The mage is a broken class in this Arena. I'm about to throw in the towel and quit trying to help win as a rogue. I'll equip mage and PM for 240 like everyone else I guess. Otherwise I have no hope of holding onto Vanguard.

[n3r086]

This poly spammers has ruined other good mages reputation of being a great team support... now we're getting hunted down in the first 5 mins of the battle :mad:

[dalead]

I was unable to collect from my last battle, but it counted towards my battle total for the day. Sucks tail. :mad:

[thomasj8]

This poly spammers has ruined other good mages reputation of being a great team support... now we're getting hunted down in the first 5 mins of the battle :mad:

Keel all zee mages! :D

Edit - what kind of cheese goes best with this thread?

[jtimp69]

Edit - what kind of cheese goes best with this thread?

Vieux Boulogne, it's the worlds most smelliest cheese and it fits nicely w/ this years failed Arena.

[lionheart555]

I love the guys trolling the mages Loool

[n3r086]

Edit - what kind of cheese goes best with this thread?

Gorgonzola? bc I'm feeling blue :rolleyes:

anyway, another one joins the rank of mages :D
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1944/lol5t.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/lol5t.png/)

uh oh.... :(

[thomasj8]

Gorgonzola? bc I'm feeling blue :rolleyes:


I was thinking about a blue type of cheese, but I usually pair that with a strong red whine, and I am not sure the whine in this thread is strong :p It seems more like a white zinfandel than a Petite Sirah :D

[Slaytanic]

I was thinking about a blue type of cheese, but I usually pair that with a strong red whine, and I am not sure the whine in this thread is strong :p It seems more like a white zinfandel than a Petite Sirah :D

I'm sinking to the level of the mage PM spammers. Wine is not even on this list at this class level. I'm thinking Pabst Blue Ribbon and Cheese Whiz. :D

[axis]

check the top room out for this hour.

http://apps.facebook.com/castle_age/arena_battle.php?id=1001

:p

[Recab]

Spamming PM to Alpha. Come at me little sons, I'll fight you all.

[Slaytanic]

First battle of spamming PMs for me 10 hits 2400 pts rather than 5 defeats and a mix of 200 and 160 pts for the other 5. That top room is funny haha.

[n3r086]

6 vs 5, now that's something new :D

[Slaytanic]

Every battle log for me looks like this. hehe constant mage whining.

Kittyxxxxx of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"plain mean, now my last token gonna be a petty 50..thanks to whoever...:("
3 minutes, 43 seconds ago:

Kittyxxxxxx of Team Zenarean Guard wrote:
"well, thanks to not even letting me get a decent amount of points as my team is losing for sure I don´t get it being polyd AND confused again- who is afraid of a low 175 level like me,I wonder??"

[Ozymandias46]

It would be nice if both the Reinforcements and the token clocks worked in arena. How hard it it to fix them? This arena has been going on nearly a week and you still allow portions of it be broke? How lame is that?:mad:

[Slaytanic]

It would be nice if both the Reinforcements and the token clocks worked in arena. How hard it it to fix them? This arena has been going on nearly a week and you still allow portions of it be broke? How lame is that?:mad:

Welcome to Arena! It's been like that every Arena. Wait until they release game mechanic changes or new generals in chests that give an Arena advantage in the middle like they did in season 3. You would think one of the easiest things the devs could fix is a simple countdown timer.

[AnjaFfm]

Yawn....... anyone else getting bored with Arena ?

I find this Arena extremely boring.

You battle - you rise to Alpha Vanguard.
You sleep and go to work - you drop to Hero.

You battle - you rise again..
you sleep and work - you drop again .... etc etc - rinse and repeat.. ad nauseam... :rolleyes:

Reminds me of the story of Sisyphus and the rock....

YAWN

And this is supposed to go on until 18 August?

In addition, I am well aware that the limit to refilling has a purpose.

However, it also makes the arena battles... uhm.... selfish and not nice.

Last Arena:

I was cleric.
Every win I got healed my team for some points.
AND my biggest pleasure was to find one of my (normal level) friends on my team who was online.
I would contact that person and then keep healing them, allowing them to fight with almost unlimited health :)

- "unfair"? Yeah, sure, but fun. And that person's almost unlimited health also fed points to the other team because they could continue to nibble that person down ;)

This Arena:

Refills are limited to 1 per battle.
With good reason, yes, but it makes it boring and repetitive and ...well.. not nice..

This Arena I am Rogue.
I hit for maximum damage - and pick, of course, those opponents with low health to increase the chances of winning for our team. (+25% bonus).
It is not the nicest thing in the world to come down like a ton of bricks on lvls 300+ etc - but there is nothing else I can do.

This Arena it is not possible to gain a head start and then just coast - which is precisely what the Alpha Annies, top of that bracket, did in last Arena.

Last Arena was like a family reunion *smile* - the same people over and over again, now on this team, now on the other - and the high levels nibbled on each other for comfortable points and left the lower levels alone.

This Arena we are forced to go for the kill.

I have no enjoyment in destroying (stunning) active lvls 300+ with 1500 health, but there is nothing else I can do.

Well, maybe I am not competitive enough.. but I really do not enjoy this Arena. I do not enjoy coming down like a ton of bricks on lower levels with low health, and I do not enjoy this Sisyphus work of rising.. falling.. rising.. falling either.

I found the last Arenas fun, but this time, the unit for top level is not worth my while.

.. well.. maybe it is not such a bad idea that the high levels get bored with the Arena . I will gladly cede the "Alpha Vanguard" rank and the red doggie unit to those who have fun in this Arena and who are willing to work for it until 18 August.

Whoever gets through this selfish and boring Arena until 18 August and finishes with Alpha Vanguard deserves a medal in my eyes, and not only a red doggie. :)


/footnote:
Sisyphus and the rock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus
__________________

I had a thread here
http://174.37.115.166/cforum/showthread.php?t=56342

but was asked to please discuss in this thread

.............................

I loved this reply by the way:


Mytch
Castle Age Royalty

Yup.

At least in older arenas we could fight whenever we felt like it. Forcing us into 5 hour-long matches to keep up, which are ridiculously hard to fit into our schedules is a lackluster approach. There's really no reason for them to be an hour long at this point. Just give us a token every 30 seconds or so and the battle could be over in 10 minutes, and the battle itself might even be somewhat interesting.

Precisely.

No working person can fit 5 hour long battles (with 1 hr in between) in a normal schedule.

And 1 token every 30 seconds - and 10 minute battles - would be GREAT!

[Slaytanic]

I have switched to PM spamming. It sucks but if I have any hope at this point of getting Vanguard there's no other way. I'm not spending $$$ on refills, 100 out of my 350 stam a day limits me for potion hunting, my BSI is not nearly enough at 5.6 lev 367 to find 240 targets I can hit at AV and V levels. Occasionally but it leads me to being defeated usually the first 5/10 tokens while I find targets. Now I just go in and find my target, PM, hit, PM, hit. I've done that the last two battles and it's much easier than being a rogue and trying to help a team that isn't trying to win anyways. It just boggles my mind that the devs think this was a great format for A4.

[RiverRock]

Yeah, I can't take this anymore either!!! Making us endure 5 hour long pointless battles a day that take up 10 hours is insane.

That is from someone who was on 20 hrs a day in last arena, but I never, never want to do that or this again!! Why not 1 battle a day or something jeesh. CA is ruining peoples lives!!

[AnjaFfm]

I fully agree, River Rock.

Well, I am not enduring them. :p

I have not fought one single battle today... bored to death with this stuff.... and no chances of making headway / getting a head start either.

Cannot fight more than 3 battles a day on workdays (with the last battle ending at midnight... ) - and being tied up in the house for 10 hours on Sat and Sun does not cut it either.

This Friday evening, I am meeting colleagues at a wine fest.
And on Saturday, I am going away for the weekend to visit a friend - uhm.. shall I count enjoying RL as "lost time"? Which I can never "make up for"? :rolleyes:

So:

Forget it! :p

I will gladly see the rank of Alpha Vanguard on those who have the energy and willingness to go through this stuff and to fit their life schedule around the game of Castle Age for weeks on end.

They will certainly have earned it!

[Shonie]

Agreed Anja, I can't take it to be honest, but I feel I need the items. Two more weeks... two more weeks... two more weeks... of no sleep!

I'm playing this arena as a warrior with no refills for the challenge. I guess that keeps it interesting for me :P
Although losing 12 of the past 14 battles is getting on my nerves :(

[Yuhake]

Team wins: 14
Team losses: 14

Got two wins today, with 1 battle remaining.

Still Hero.

The temptation to take a refill during the last bout was almost too much. Lost 23 to 25.

...

I wish the devs would have implemented option to make chat messages visible to only your team or something. :/ I remember it was 'mentioned' by some during last arena too... :P

[thomasj8]

Team wins: 14
Team losses: 14

Got two wins today, with 1 battle remaining.

Still Hero.

The temptation to take a refill during the last bout was almost too much. Lost 23 to 25.

...

I wish the devs would have implemented option to make chat messages visible to only your team or something. :/ I remember it was 'mentioned' by some during last arena too... :P

I was just in a really close battle, down to the wire we won by two, but barely. I could have refilled and made up the difference, but did not as it was more fun seeing what the teams could accomplish. The lack of guild chat was not a deterrent. Why should it be? What is the other team going to do to stop you? Both sides were actively using the chat to ID specific targets and work as a team to take them out :D

Here is the link to see the chat:

http://apps.facebook.com/castle_age/arena_battle.php?id=1001&view_allies=true

Maybe more people ought to ignore the other side and just use the chat as is ;)

[Igster]

What is ruining CA is the CC users...I know that the Dev's purpose is to make money off of the poor suckers who like to shell out money for favor points and thus soar to the top ranks on the backs of Washington, Lincoln and Hamilton instead of honest-to-gameness true sportsmanlike strategy. Once these self-appointed game gods have so far outpaced everyone and hogged all the top rank spots, they keep going and going, making it impossible for mere mortals to even aspire obaining any decent arena loot, because of the ever-rising cutoffs, dictated by the Divine Decree: Thou Shalt Not Suffer A Mortal To Breathe Your Game Air Lest It Become Soiled!

[RestlessHunter]

Was wondering if there is a points level for each. Like Im either Vanguard/orA-vanguard in the days when im playing, but go to sleep and I wake up to a Hero level???

I have over 100,000 arena points and Im still Hero and I just fought my 3rd fight today ..winning 2 out of the 3...so how do we get there? and does it change daily?

Been searching on the threads for a point leveler but cant find one...Anyone help?

[MarTooth]

I was just in a really close battle, down to the wire we won by two, but barely. I could have refilled and made up the difference, but did not as it was more fun seeing what the teams could accomplish. The lack of guild chat was not a deterrent. Why should it be? What is the other team going to do to stop you? Both sides were actively using the chat to ID specific targets and work as a team to take them out :D

Here is the link to see the chat:

http://apps.facebook.com/castle_age/arena_battle.php?id=1001&view_allies=true

Maybe more people ought to ignore the other side and just use the chat as is ;)

Fun wasn't it :D Was sure we were gonners at the start but... hehe... anyone want a slice of roasted chicken???

[thomasj8]

What is ruining CA is the CC users...<snip similar stuff>

Actually, I think there should be more CC use, especially in Arena. Make this an Arena that rewards the devs for trying to balance the interests of paying players versus non-payers. I struggle to believe that this Arena will have close to the same level of income for them, but I hope it does come close, or at least generates enough revenue for them to keep trying to have a balance.

Fun wasn't it :D Was sure we were gonners at the start but... hehe... anyone want a slice of roasted chicken???

That was fantastic! :D

[Death of Rats]

Was wondering if there is a points level for each. Like Im either Vanguard/orA-vanguard in the days when im playing, but go to sleep and I wake up to a Hero level???

I have over 100,000 arena points and Im still Hero and I just fought my 3rd fight today ..winning 2 out of the 3...so how do we get there? and does it change daily?

Been searching on the threads for a point leveler but cant find one...Anyone help?
http://castleageforums.com/cforum/showthread.php?t=56069

The updates during the day are based on the previous end of day final scores. You must be near the cut off if you make the rank during the day and lose it at the daily update. Keep persevering and you'll get there. :)

[hotsauce]

I hate this arena format because if you don't make it to hero or higher in the first couple of days you are just going to be stuck in the endless pool that is gladiator for the rest of arena. With the penalty for losing and the limit of 5 battles it just makes it even harder

I currently have 56,514 points and i am about to be on the losing team for the 3 time today and i only have 2 battles left today and i don't know what the minimum is for hero but i have a feeling its at least close to 70k

[ElectroSoulja]

I just came out of an arena with horribly unbalanced teams. The opponent had multiple members in the 7-900 range and two 1000+ level players. My side had two players in the 500's with our HIGHEST being 596....that's it!!


This system is obviously not working.

[axis]

Tehehehehehe I got some someones panties in a bundle in my last battle by chaining all active mages down on their side outside of battle :p

I mean, I leveled up mid battle. what else am I gonna do with all that stam?;)

[thomasj8]

Tehehehehehe I got some someones panties in a bundle in my last battle by chaining all active mages down on their side outside of battle :p

I mean, I leveled up mid battle. what else am I gonna do with all that stam?;)

Nice! :D

[KingMC18]

seriously? that's all you can find to complain about? That's so normal it's not worth mentioning. :)

[axis]

its random. it works on the principal that you get super lucky as often as you get screwed over. obviously this isn't the case sometimes, but its the easiest way for the devs to do it while still making it "balanced".

And if you don't like it, the only real way to improve your win ratio is to sleep in 50 minute blocks from X:05-x:55 so you can spend the first 4 minutes of a battle deciding if you want to join, if you join, you dump at the beginning, 1 token in 5 minutes from the beginning or end, and 10 at the end, then collect once the battle is over. If you skip the battle, you get to sleep an hour and 50 minutes so you can put your general up and get prepared for the next battle.

Once you use your 5 battles, you can just sleep until 11:55pm PDT in preparation for the first battle of the day.

which is what I am going to start doing.

Of course, having a job as opposed to being a student doing nothing on summer break makes this more difficult.

[pull lead]

I was 10-10 which I was happy with, but having gone on a 1-8 skid in the past 2 days, I'm less than happy. I hate this random team pairing as well. Last arena I had about a 35% team win %...

[Silhouetta]

Arena battling is not for me today since I cannot get it load.

[Theros Soultaker [DSC]]

Well, after 1 week, I have decided that this is THE GREATEST ARENA EVER!!!!!!

Let's recap the week:

Day 1: White screened the entire day. Not allowed to participate in any battles.

Day 2: White screened the entire day. Not allowed to participate in any battles.

Day 3: Only allowed to do 4 battles because CA program cannot count to 5.

Day 4: I was actually allowed to participate in 5 battles! Of course all battles have multiple people on my team who are hell bent on losing by going after opponents with 5000+ health.

Day 5: Only allowed to participate in 3 battles because CA program STILL has not figured out how to count to 5.

Day 6: Participated in 4 battles, BUT, white screened 10 minutes before the end of 1 battle costing me the use of 9 tokens (battle ended in a tie, which means I lose) and angered me enough to not play my 5th battle.

Day 7: Sitting here looking at the join button wondering if it is even worth any more anger, irritation, frustration, time, and favor points to continue trying to play catch up from the first 2 days.

I keep having flashbacks of Arena III where extra time was added at the end which cost me Alpha rank and all I can do is wonder how people are going to get screwed on the last day of Arena IV. I've gotten screwed so badly in the 1st week that I don't think it could get any worse, but I'm sure it will.

Suggestion for Arena V: 10 minute battles with unlimited refills. 5 minutes to collect before next battle starts. Runs for 2 months, filled with random server crashes and a 75% chance of getting a blue orb of death on every click. On the last day, 1 hour before the end, reset everyone to 0 with no explanation and extend it for a week.

[Pheonixhawk]

well if people learn to use chat log it would be much easier to coordinate and win with a team effort. But sadly most people go after max points , lose and have 25% points deducted when with a team effort they could have gotten 25% more

[hotsauce]

well if people learn to use chat log it would be much easier to coordinate and win with a team effort. But sadly most people go after max points , lose and have 25% points deducted when with a team effort they could have gotten 25% more

That is easier said then done especially if you get put on a team where the majority of them are inactive.

[KimBrad]

What is a health cheat? Had someone on my team go on a 200 character tirade in my last battle about someone being one.

But hey! We won. First battle out of 5 today. Yay us. I am never getting to hero rank at this rate. :D Oh well. Bring on the lions and prisoners of war... I'm a gladiator and damned proud of it.

[hotsauce]

What is a health cheat? Had someone on my team go on a 200 character tirade in my last battle about someone being one.

But hey! We won. First battle out of 5 today. Yay us. I am never getting to hero rank at this rate. :D Oh well. Bring on the lions and prisoners of war... I'm a gladiator and damned proud of it.

I feel you i only got a lil over 62k hero is most likely out of reach

[thanatoscharun]

^ depends but it would require a bit of luck and a lot of patience. I dropped down to the bottom of vanguard two days ago due to missing 2-3 battles but now I'm barely under AV/V line. Part of it was getting lucky with a good team while partially waiting 5-10 minutes before deciding if we had a chance of winning. It will probably take a while but if you choose carefully and hopefully get some luck, you might be able to get back up there

[Ozymandias46]

well if people learn to use chat log it would be much easier to coordinate and win with a team effort. But sadly most people go after max points , lose and have 25% points deducted when with a team effort they could have gotten 25% more


Boy you got that right. I will use the chat log to try and announce low health or squishy player on the other team but do you think anyone on my team would bother to read the log? Maybe, but if they are, they are ignoring me.

I would rather win a battle with less points than lose a battle with more points. 1 will be added to by 25%, the other subtracted by 25%. I wish people understood that.

Of course, I always wait until I'm stunned before I go the log.;)

Actually, the single win we did have today was because two people actually read the log and were able to stun 3 players that had low health. We only won the battle by 1 but we won.

[beezlebozo]

I am giving up on arena IV fed up of fighting and then a crash at the end, not able to then collect my points before the next battle. The devs need to get this resolved it's putting me off castle age totally.

that's my 2 cents!!

[Shonie]

well if people learn to use chat log it would be much easier to coordinate and win with a team effort. But sadly most people go after max points , lose and have 25% points deducted when with a team effort they could have gotten 25% more

What percentage of battles are actually close. It's generally a blowout one way or the other. Does it make sense when winning or losing to by 10 to continue 'taking one for the team'? Meh, I'll take my points.

[Kuko]

But sadly most people go after max points

a lot of people go after the least time spend in arena / CA a day, it is casual game after all

[wiz1974]

I think all the discussions of team coordination to win sometimes apply, sometime doesn't. Lately doesn't a lot cause people wait first 10 minutes and join just if their team is winning. This cause a huge inactivity in team's losing and so the whole losing team can't come back from the abyss.
Personally can't use this strategy cause I can rarely make all 5 battles (RL prob.), but it's what I saw.

cheers

[Masell]

Arena Season 4 is really bad.
Will the developers try to group teams so that players have a chance?

Some guidelines on "How to allow players feel they have the chance" rather than be "unlucky":
- Average level for all players in the 2 teams should be roughly equal, maybe 5% +/- (I hated that our team was ON AVERAGE 200 levels BELOW the other team. Ofcourse we lost.
- Average number of players from EU and US are balanced out - so lets say both teams have 20 EU players and 10 from Asia and 10 from US. THIS ALLOWS that players who play can have the chance to see as much activity as possible from other players (rather than having 30 US players around who will be sleeping when we do battles).

5 battles / day is too much - will put a lot of stress onto players who want to win, AND EVENTUALLY this will mean that the total random nature of teams will make people COMPLAIN about developers. And rightfully so - you can be an excellent player, but loose due to how developers randomize the teams, and you get bad luck.

You sometimes get the teams (by random) who just don't care to win. Sort of makes you feel bad if you care about the game.

Hoping the next Area is better.

[Masell]

One more detail re. Arena format.

I play a cleric.
My class is highly important member of my team, protecting the active players, often ensuring winning.

However - for healing - I receive 140 Activity points.
The attackers receive 200 or 240 points per same token spend.

This means when we add the +25% at the end, they receive much higher values, meaning much more likely to end up in the top 5%, than clerics.

I would suggest healing to add 200 activity points too, otherwise you punish healers for doing their job.

[Recab]

Want to fix the issue with PM spammers ruining battles?

Make it so cleanse gives 240 activity points if it removes a status.

[Fortevn]

I don't mind the 5 battles a day, but this is an arena, not some Naruto retarding test, let me fight on my own!
I've had enough of this sod, 3 days, 15 battles lost because my oh-jolly-good teammates blinded themselves and rushed to lvl 1k wall. Stupid gits! I don't usually whine but when I do I make sure I become an emo. I hate this Arena, I hate my team, I hate CA, I hate this life, I hate everything remotely related to Justin Bieber and I hate how they refused to do another Blackadder!

!"£$%^&*()

[Slaytanic]

I don't mind the 5 battles a day, but this is an arena, not some Naruto retarding test, let me fight on my own!
I've had enough of this sod, 3 days, 15 battles lost because my oh-jolly-good teammates blinded themselves and rushed to lvl 1k wall. Stupid gits! I don't usually whine but when I do I make sure I become an emo. I hate this Arena, I hate my team, I hate CA, I hate this life, I hate everything remotely related to Justin Bieber and I hate how they refused to do another Blackadder!

!"£$%^&*()

Well your life is about to get worse. I hear they are remaking Blackadder with Bieber playing Edmund! I give up on this Arena. I just find the active 240 pt target, PM, hit, PM, hit, collect my points. Repeat 5 times a day for the next two weeks in hopes I get the stupid glove. :D

[Fortevn]

Well your life is about to get worse. I hear they are remaking Blackadder with Bieber playing Edmund! I give up on this Arena. I just find the active 240 pt target, PM, hit, PM, hit, collect my points. Repeat 5 times a day for the next two weeks in hopes I get the stupid glove.
THEY ARE DOING WHAT?
This is revolting (in Stephen Fry's voice)!

[Ozymandias46]

Want to fix the issue with PM spammers ruining battles?

Make it so cleanse gives 240 activity points if it removes a status.


Wow! That Works!:D

[Kenneth]

Want to fix the issue with PM spammers ruining battles?

Make it so cleanse gives 240 activity points if it removes a status.

as if...make it use the same system as a PM...

-20% of users level= 160

-20-+20% of user level= 200

+20% of user level=240

...and while we r making things 'fair' put up a system that can cause the healer to FAIL a healing

ill agree that PMing has a higher leverage than Healing...but if ur gonna balance the scales, might as well do all the scales

[Death of Rats]

as if...make it use the same system as a PM...

-20% of users level= 160

-20-+20% of user level= 200

+20% of user level=240

...and while we r making things 'fair' put up a system that can cause the healer to FAIL a healing

ill agree that PMing has a higher leverage than Healing...but if ur gonna balance the scales, might as well do all the scalesHealing/dispelling SHOULD have a possibility of failing.

[General Usana]

Dispel should compare you to the caster that afflicted the person you are dispelling. And that decides your point totals(obviously failing is when you can't beat the opposing afflicter's 'skill' or stats).

[Vala Nimhendrall]

Want to fix the issue with PM spammers ruining battles?

Make it so cleanse gives 240 activity points if it removes a status.


That would definitely even out the annoying mages and everyone would "want" to be a cleric.. :)

[Yuhake]

Dispel should compare you to the caster that afflicted the person you are dispelling. And that decides your point totals(obviously failing is when you can't beat the opposing afflicter's 'skill' or stats).

This would be fun. In effect, if you're a powerful spellcaster, your spells are harder to dispel and vice versa. :)

[Elandal]

as if...make it use the same system as a PM...

-20% of users level= 160

-20-+20% of user level= 200

+20% of user level=240

...and while we r making things 'fair' put up a system that can cause the healer to FAIL a healing

ill agree that PMing has a higher leverage than Healing...but if ur gonna balance the scales, might as well do all the scales

Make the mage lose points when his debuf is dispelled. So mage gets only 50 points for the poly/confu that is removed by dispel/cleanse. Thanks.

[Kenneth]

Make the mage lose points when his debuf is dispelled. So mage gets only 50 points for the poly/confu that is removed by dispel/cleanse. Thanks.

i think that is to complex of programming for our Devs...considering they cant get the 'basic' arena programming "correct"

[Theros Soultaker [DSC]]

i think that is to complex of programming for our Devs...considering they cant get the 'basic' arena programming "correct"

Can't get basic arena programming correct?!?! They can't even get it to count to 5!

[Death of Rats]

Continued in http://castleageforums.com/cforum/showthread.php?t=56388