We should be battling the new bosses already

[Alpha X]

OK, imho, the bossses (currently in standy-by mode) should be released soon.

If the quest/stages are available, if the orbs are available, why the bosses are not? Why let a player complete a quest that ends dropping a summoning orb if summoning is not yet possible? In regular CA when a new quest area was released it was released completelly, boss included.

Mostly when finding an alive Acheron to fight has become really hard since everyone is hunting the forums, links and public monsters area looking for an Acheron to kill.

I believe the new bosses should be now released. We have the orbs so we should be battling Carmilla, Belial and Faust already.

[lfcfrom1970]

OK, imho, the bossses (currently in standy-by mode) should be released soon.

If the quest/stages are available, if the orbs are available, why the bosses are not? Why let a player complete a quest that ends dropping a summoning orb if summoning is not yet possible? In regular CA when a new quest area was released it was released completelly, boss included.

Mostly when finding an alive Acheron to fight has become really hard since everyone is hunting the forums, links and public monsters area looking for an Acheron to kill.

I believe the new bosses should be now released. We have the orbs so we should be battling Carmilla, Belial and Faust already.

I think the reason we are not is they are not ready, I'd rather wait a while to have them right than rushed through as we are struggling to find Acheron's ( though my guild are finding enough to keep us happy).

[TBee]

If folks can still collect double, triple, or more times from a single Acheron .. I'll gladly wait to battle the newer monsters. Let the devs iron out monster battle issues with just a single monster, then any new issues should seemingly just be text and graphics (not function related).

Though I have joked with others that the Acheron health should doubled or more when he's made public. Those darn public ones die in 5 minutes or less.

[Bristolen]

"devs release too much content, and never fix the old stuff...rant rant rant"

"devs, im bored and release new content already...rant rant rant"

"devs, wtf are you doing with your time besides replying to all our forum posts and giving us everything we want? rant rant rant"

"devs, why arent there 10 new questing areas, 10 new monsters, and 15 more PVP ranks in this UNRELEASED BETA GAME...rant rant rant"

[Alpha X]

Great post Bristolen, it was of great value to this thread!!! Wonderful!!! Fantastic!!!

One question, are you bored of your life (most probably) or you just go through posts you don't agree to and publish your crap?

[thomasj8]

Great post Bristolen, it was of great value to this thread!!! Wonderful!!! Fantastic!!!

One question, are you bored of your life (most probably) or you just go through posts you don't agree to and publish your crap?

If you post a topic, do you only expect people to agree with you? :rolleyes:

[Alpha X]

Not at all dude, but why that ironic message? What's the point with it? When you don't agree to an idea you must answer with an ironic response to the OP or it would be much better to provide explanation as to why you don't agree?

[lfcfrom1970]

Not at all dude, but why that ironic message? What's the point with it? When you don't agree to an idea you must answer with an ironic response to the OP or it would be much better to provide explanation as to why you don't agree?


Irony and sarcasm all the way for me.

[Bristolen]

devs will release new content when they want to - not when you or anyone else tells them to.

it is theirgame, let them develop it their way. and if anything, my post illustrated the devs make all these people with "such humble opinions" upset no matter what they do. we dont need each person with 'a humble opinion' to post their own thread about what they think devs should do, when there are already preexisting threads on the subject.

[darkrider635]

devs will release new content when they want to - not when you or anyone else tells them to.

it is theirgame, let them develop it their way. and if anything, my post illustrated the devs make all these people with "such humble opinions" upset no matter what they do. we dont need each person with 'a humble opinion' to post their own thread about what they think devs should do, when there are already preexisting threads on the subject.

they are waiting on more money from us with fp

[thomasj8]

Not at all dude, but why that ironic message? What's the point with it? When you don't agree to an idea you must answer with an ironic response to the OP or it would be much better to provide explanation as to why you don't agree?

I get your point, but have been active in the forum for a bit longer than you. That in no way makes me better, but I may be more conversant with the norm/culture/tone. Based upon way too much time in the forum, I thought Bristolen's explanation was implicit in the entirety of her post. Snarky? Yes. ;)

[Bristolen]

maybe darkrider. some people are already spending real money on FP to do refills for the game. that is their prerogative, of course.

i view HOD as the devs, "second chance" so to speak. all the imbalancing things or most common complaints in CA can be rectified, somewhat, in HOD.

and the most common complaints about CA are, "monsters are too hard", "too many updates", "old content isnt ever fixed", "too much power creep", "we need teh toolz, teh toolz to play CA!!!!", and the "need to spend money to do well in the game".

there are other common complaints of course, but i chose the ones that seem to crosscut through all groups no matter what your build or playing style is.

[Alpha X]

devs will release new content when they want to - not when you or anyone else tells them to.

it is theirgame, let them develop it their way. and if anything, my post illustrated the devs make all these people with "such humble opinions" upset no matter what they do. we dont need each person with 'a humble opinion' to post their own thread about what they think devs should do, when there are already preexisting threads on the subject.

Really? I thought I was free to opine here and make suggestions, reports, feels and feedback as will.

Isn't this a CA forum with different categories or I missed the place?

And you say "we dont need each person"?... "we"? Are you a dev or something? Or just another idiot trying to be better than other forum members?

[Bristolen]

read the entire sentence alpha x.

"when there are already preexisting threads on the subject."

what makes each forumer so special, they need their own thread for the same opinion as someone elses?

[stormlrd]

Quite honestly they are fixing all the bugs with the current monster before they release the next. The coding module for a monster is something reusable for each monster type with small parameter changes. There is no sense releasing the new ones until all the issues are completely addressed with the old ones.
Think of each section of the game as a module and each section is currently being bug tested by us reported to the devs and polished by them before expanding further. You don't build a house on a wet foundation you wait until it is completely solid.

We are all impatient but it we'll be here before we know it so hang in there.

[Alpha X]

I get your point, but have been active in the forum for a bit longer than you. That in no way makes me better, but I may be more conversant with the norm/culture/tone. Based upon way too much time in the forum, I thought Bristolen's explanation was implicit in the entirety of her post. Snarky? Yes. ;)

I don't think so buddy. Don't let my number of messages trick you. I have been in these forums for years now and playing CA even before so I won't allow a stupid forist ( I'm not talking about you by the way ;) ) that thinks that the quantity of posted messages allows him to watch the rest of the forum members from a highest spot.

My respects to your education and politeness. :)

[lfcfrom1970]

Quite honestly they are fixing all the bugs with the current monster before they release the next. The coding module for a monster is something reusable for each monster type with small parameter changes. There is no sense releasing the new ones until all the issues are completely addressed with the old ones.
Think of each section of the game as a module and each section is currently being bug tested by us reported to the devs and polished by them before expanding further. You don't build a house on a wet foundation you wait until it is completely solid.

We are all impatient but it we'll be here before we know it so hang in there.

Practically what I said in the second or third post to this thread. But yours is better put I must admit :cool:

[Blade Runner]

Really? I thought I was free to opine here and make suggestions, reports, feels and feedback as will.

Isn't this a CA forum with different categories or I missed the place?

And you say "we dont need each person"?... "we"? Are you a dev or something? Or just another idiot trying to be better than other forum members?

Bristolen Quote= read the entire sentence alpha x.

"when there are already preexisting threads on the subject."

what makes each forumer so special, they need their own thread for the same opinion as someone elses?

This is kind of PvP outside the game. We have Alpha X in the Blue corner & Bristolen in the Red corner. Ding ding, let the games begin. :D

[Alpha X]

read the entire sentence alpha x.

"when there are already preexisting threads on the subject."

what makes each forumer so special, they need their own thread for the same opinion as someone elses?

Before posting I do a search, sometimes I find what I'm looking for, sometimes I don't (although it can still be on the forums). If the Mods believe I am repeating a thread or missed the category they will correct/move as needed, so "WE" don't need people like you pointing out or complaining on repeated threads. Your nick doesn't say "Admin" nor "Mod".

Just deal with it as I will keep speaking my mind here, and maybe I will repeat some other threads, yes, I believe so.

[lfcfrom1970]

Bristolen Quote= read the entire sentence alpha x.

"when there are already preexisting threads on the subject."

what makes each forumer so special, they need their own thread for the same opinion as someone elses?

This is kind of PvP outside the game. We have Alpha X in the Blue corner & Bristolen in the Red corner. Ding ding, let the games begin. :D

Don't forget the stupid florist or was it forist; I prefer florist, a much maligned job these days there is not enough flower sellers in CA or CA:HoD or in real life for that matter.

Devs we want more florists.......................................... ...........

[Bristolen]

::wonders if i should report alpha x for personal insults or not::

please discuss :p

[Alpha X]

Don't forget the stupid florist or was it forist; I prefer florist, a much maligned job these days there is not enough flower sellers in CA or CA:HoD or in real life for that matter.

Devs we want more florists.......................................... ...........

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clap, clap, clap!!!

[Alpha X]

::wonders if i should report alpha x for personal insults or not::

please discuss :p

Please serve yourself and feel free all the way!!!

Just start reading from the beginning and tell me if I'm not right and your first message is out of this world?

[Bristolen]

is there something wrong with posting paraphrases of common complaints the devs hear on an almost daily basis with regular CA? is there something wrong with sarcasm? is there something wrong with me expressing myself the way i want to?

we are lucky devs are still letting us play HOD at all and just didnt reset us all, kick us out, and say "wait til we are ready for it to be officially released".

when the devs want to release new content, great. if that takes 1 day, 5 days, or 2 weeks - fine. as stormlrd stated, its imperative for the devs to get acheron 'perfect' before moving on to making monsters based on almost the exact same coding.

and i dont see why my forum posts have you worked up anyway. i havent called you stupid, an idiot, a 'forist' (whatever that is), implying that you are somehow better than me, or anything. unlike what you have been calling me? :p

[Alpha X]

is there something wrong with posting paraphrases of common complaints the devs hear on an almost daily basis with regular CA? is there something wrong with sarcasm? is there something wrong with me expressing myself the way i want to?

we are lucky devs are still letting us play HOD at all and just didnt reset us all, kick us out, and say "wait til we are ready for it to be officially released".

when the devs want to release new content, great. if that takes 1 day, 5 days, or 2 weeks - fine. as stormlrd stated, its imperative for the devs to get acheron 'perfect' before moving on to making monsters based on almost the exact same coding.

and i dont see why my forum posts have you worked up anyway. i havent called you stupid, an idiot, a 'forist' (whatever that is), implying that you are somehow better than me, or anything. unlike what you have been calling me? :p

OK, should I have called you "my king" seeing that you are from the "royalty"?

If you don't know another way but sarcasm to answer to the opinion of a forum member then don't be surprised if you are gifted with retaliation.

Learn to be a good person right from the beginning, well, not a good person, I don't care how you are in your real life, just a good forum member and next time answer as expected because NO ONE in these forums post waiting for sarcasm in return but a nice response, in favor or against.

[Zeira]

is there something wrong with posting paraphrases of common complaints the devs hear on an almost daily basis with regular CA? is there something wrong with sarcasm? is there something wrong with me expressing myself the way i want to?

we are lucky devs are still letting us play HOD at all and just didnt reset us all, kick us out, and say "wait til we are ready for it to be officially released".

when the devs want to release new content, great. if that takes 1 day, 5 days, or 2 weeks - fine. as stormlrd stated, its imperative for the devs to get acheron 'perfect' before moving on to making monsters based on almost the exact same coding.

and i dont see why my forum posts have you worked up anyway. i havent called you stupid, an idiot, a 'forist' (whatever that is), implying that you are somehow better than me, or anything. unlike what you have been calling me? :p

I wouldn't mind if they reset everyone. :p

[Bristolen]

and i could tell you, alpha x - to read my other forum posts before you say i cannot answer other peoples opinions without respect, sarcasm, or niceness. :p like even in this very thread for instance. :cool:

maybe darkrider. some people are already spending real money on FP to do refills for the game. that is their prerogative, of course.

i view HOD as the devs, "second chance" so to speak. all the imbalancing things or most common complaints in CA can be rectified, somewhat, in HOD.

and the most common complaints about CA are, "monsters are too hard", "too many updates", "old content isnt ever fixed", "too much power creep", "we need teh toolz, teh toolz to play CA!!!!", and the "need to spend money to do well in the game".

there are other common complaints of course, but i chose the ones that seem to crosscut through all groups no matter what your build or playing style is.

and i dont mind sarcasm being thrown back at me either. im one of those odd ones who can dish it out and take it. ;)

but, as OP - why arent you actually talking about wanting new monsters instead of me? youre derailing your own thread, bro. :cool:

[Bristolen]

zeira, if there was a HOD reset...i wouldnt want to be in the devvies shoes on that day ;)

theyd probably get such a massive amount of hatemail on top of what they already get. :(

[Alpha X]

zeira, if there was a HOD reset...i wouldnt want to be in the devvies shoes on that day ;)

theyd probably get such a massive amount of hatemail on top of what they already get. :(

Not only hate mails as there is money already involved on this. That is a sign that they won't reset the accounts because if CA HOD is still "in development" as Devs say, they shouldn't have allowed people to buy FPs, but they did, intentionally, so no reset will come or a dark cloud could cover CA HOD.

[Bristolen]

true alpha x about the FP situation. some of my guildies talked about how they would be afraid of spending real money in a game this early because you have no idea if it will be pulled, or if devs will do something to completely change the game to make it a game you would hate to keep playing. accusations are already flying around that HOD is supposed to be the dev's big monkey maker game now.

[Alpha X]

true alpha x about the FP situation. some of my guildies talked about how they would be afraid of spending real money in a game this early because you have no idea if it will be pulled, or if devs will do something to completely change the game to make it a game you would hate to keep playing. accusations are already flying around that HOD is supposed to be the dev's big monkey maker game now.

Hmmm... interesting. I didn't know that. Will see what the future brings to HOD and we players.

Glad we can talk/discuss in good terms and I apologize if I used the wrong words before.

[Bristolen]

same here alpha x. :)

it will be a sad situation indeed if what bogged down original CA happens to HOD too. the plague of 600 mil HP monsters and divine armor monsters.

and since we dont know what exactly is coming, its hard to make a build in preparation for the unknown 0_0

[Alpha X]

same here alpha x. :)

it will be a sad situation indeed if what bogged down original CA happens to HOD too. the plague of 600 mil HP monsters and divine armor monsters.

and since we dont know what exactly is coming, its hard to make a build in preparation for the unknown 0_0

Yeap, I agree with that. Should we just pray for the best? lol!

Take care Bristolen. :)

[ExitCo99]

Watching the Bristolen and Alpha X conversation was like watching a train wreck. You know you shouldn't be watching/reading it, but you just can't help but read/watch it.

At the end of the day, I'm glad it was a happy ending. :D

[sevensterre]

Though I have joked with others that the Acheron health should doubled or more when he's made public. Those darn public ones die in 5 minutes or less.

NO need to do that. when the new monsters are released Acheron will remain what he was intended as. A monster for new players to a attack.

[thomasj8]

Watching the Bristolen and Alpha X conversation was like watching a train wreck. You know you shouldn't be watching/reading it, but you just can't help but read/watch it.

At the end of the day, I'm glad it was a happy ending. :D

Someone had a Happy Ending? :eek:

[Alpha X]

Come on guys! You can't say we give you a great moment uh? Like watching a suspense movie. LOL! :P

[zserg]

Alpha X, my new goal in both CAs, regardless of the happy ending is to be able to chain you.

Have a nice day :)

[thomasj8]

Alpha X, my new goal in both CAs, regardless of the happy ending is to be able to chain you.

Have a nice day :)

So, you're giving Alpha X a Happy Ending?

[Tsuteto]

I know the argument is down between you two, but I just wanted to touch on something that's kind of a pet peeve of mine ^^;;

If the Mods believe I am repeating a thread or missed the category they will correct/move as needed, so "WE" don't need people like you pointing out or complaining on repeated threads. Your nick doesn't say "Admin" nor "Mod".

This is not true. If anyone has moderated a site with a large fan base to it, then they KNOW that they rely upon the members to assist with the "moderating." It's like I told someone, saying they wish they were a mod so they could use their ban hammer on people, after I resigned as a moderator at GZF: A good moderator is one who can handle things civilly without the use of their powers. Being a moderator is just a different way of saying that they have had a level of respect, while respecting others, in an outstanding way. They're entrusted with that power, because the admins know they'll use it appropriately. That means when things are deemed necessary, they use their powers.

So, we as the community, must do everything to support the mods, and handle things in that same civil manner as the mods have. When new people come in, disrupting the civility of the forums, it IS up to us to stand in and take charge, and if it's still not being resolved, THAT'S when the mods should step in absolutely. So, if there are repeating threads, the community does have a right to inform you of such (some will be more sarcastic, others more friendly).

And please Alpha, don't take this as a personal attack. Like I said, it's a personal pet peeve of mine, on more levels than just on forums. I'm just saying this, because while some might silently be aware of this, others are not, and so I hope it's just something that they get woken up to as a sense of duty, being a PROUD member of this community, as a PROUD player of CA, as a PROUD friend of the people that they have come to known here.

[Wicked Intentions]

Someone had a Happy Ending? :eek:

Yes i got to sleep in Bristolen's bra :eek::p
<edit> and oh Btw i thought Bristolens OP was dead on.

[Alpha X]

I know the argument is down between you two, but I just wanted to touch on something that's kind of a pet peeve of mine ^^;;



This is not true. If anyone has moderated a site with a large fan base to it, then they KNOW that they rely upon the members to assist with the "moderating." It's like I told someone, saying they wish they were a mod so they could use their ban hammer on people, after I resigned as a moderator at GZF: A good moderator is one who can handle things civilly without the use of their powers. Being a moderator is just a different way of saying that they have had a level of respect, while respecting others, in an outstanding way. They're entrusted with that power, because the admins know they'll use it appropriately. That means when things are deemed necessary, they use their powers.

So, we as the community, must do everything to support the mods, and handle things in that same civil manner as the mods have. When new people come in, disrupting the civility of the forums, it IS up to us to stand in and take charge, and if it's still not being resolved, THAT'S when the mods should step in absolutely. So, if there are repeating threads, the community does have a right to inform you of such (some will be more sarcastic, others more friendly).

And please Alpha, don't take this as a personal attack. Like I said, it's a personal pet peeve of mine, on more levels than just on forums. I'm just saying this, because while some might silently be aware of this, others are not, and so I hope it's just something that they get woken up to as a sense of duty, being a PROUD member of this community, as a PROUD player of CA, as a PROUD friend of the people that they have come to known here.

No offense taken. I appreciate and respect your point. :)

[Alpha X]

Alpha X, my new goal in both CAs, regardless of the happy ending is to be able to chain you.

Have a nice day :)

And why would you do that?

[thomasj8]

Yes i got to sleep in Bristolen's bra :eek::p
<edit> and oh Btw i thought Bristolens OP was dead on.

I thought Bristolen was on point too, but I iz jaded forum spammer, and by nature enjoy dry humor and sarcasm. My kids are doomed, as they are already indoctrinated into the dark side :eek:

[MarTooth]

I know the argument is down between you two, but I just wanted to touch on something that's kind of a pet peeve of mine ^^;;



This is not true. If anyone has moderated a site with a large fan base to it, then they KNOW that they rely upon the members to assist with the "moderating." It's like I told someone, saying they wish they were a mod so they could use their ban hammer on people, after I resigned as a moderator at GZF: A good moderator is one who can handle things civilly without the use of their powers. Being a moderator is just a different way of saying that they have had a level of respect, while respecting others, in an outstanding way. They're entrusted with that power, because the admins know they'll use it appropriately. That means when things are deemed necessary, they use their powers.

So, we as the community, must do everything to support the mods, and handle things in that same civil manner as the mods have. When new people come in, disrupting the civility of the forums, it IS up to us to stand in and take charge, and if it's still not being resolved, THAT'S when the mods should step in absolutely. So, if there are repeating threads, the community does have a right to inform you of such (some will be more sarcastic, others more friendly).

And please Alpha, don't take this as a personal attack. Like I said, it's a personal pet peeve of mine, on more levels than just on forums. I'm just saying this, because while some might silently be aware of this, others are not, and so I hope it's just something that they get woken up to as a sense of duty, being a PROUD member of this community, as a PROUD player of CA, as a PROUD friend of the people that they have come to known here.

Agree, primarily we are all responsible to moderate our selves (so read what you've typed before posting to minimise the chances of posting in anger or submitting an entry widely open to misinterpretation).

Secondly we are all responsible to not add or start fires so if someone posts a questionable post or a post in the wrong place or a repeat post we should not be making a big deal about it but should try and politely (if possibly firmly) advise.

A mods primary job is to monitor and try to prevent/divert flaming (this is often done secretly in 'hidden' ID's in a lot of forums and games rather than in their main, recognisable mod ID) and we can all help to do that, use of powers is and should always be a last resort but is on that must be used if and when all other options have been exhausted :D

Just because you don't see a mod/dev, doesn't mean they aren't there watching and or posting and doin their job ;)

[ice9]

Bristolen was never, in any way derogatory towards Alpha X, so I thought his insults were unwarranted. I'm glad it's resolved, but honestly, Alpha you can't come onto a forum where their are people with conflicting ideas/personalities,and get so sensitive. People are going to be helpful, detrimental, polte, or rude. Bristolen merely was stating an observation, which wasn't very far off considering the last 2 months of forum vs. dev tirades.SHE just happened to express HERSELF on your thread and you got a bit butt hurt. I'm not trying to stir it up. Just giving you an objective outside PoV. kthxbai

[Tsuteto]

A mods primary job is to monitor and try to prevent/divert flaming (this is often done secretly in 'hidden' ID's in a lot of forums and games rather than in their main, recognisable mod ID)

Ahhh, but I LOVED my title of nazi moderator when I had it XD

[prking1988]

if they want us to spend money to buy FPs they better give us something to spend those FPs on, this is not whining, it is a fact!

i mean we cant even find enough monsters to fight LOL

[Tsuteto]

Great! Come back when the game is out of pre-beta then ^^

Give "facts" when it's a full game. Right now, saying such things is, all intents and purposes, whining.

[Bristolen]

if carmilla or belial are stamina based PA monsters; HOD will be quite interesting 0_0

[prking1988]

Great! Come back when the game is out of pre-beta then ^^

Give "facts" when it's a full game. Right now, saying such things is, all intents and purposes, whining.

nah i dont even care that much, its just that if i were the devs i would make this my first priority , they goal is to make money right?
well they dont give us an opportunity to pay them, wht's up with that?

[Tsuteto]

No, there's opportunity there. Just not all the content that people would like, thus the "enticement" of spending those favor points. Plus, there's still some issues since they now have to make the FB Credits work appropriately with their games, plus also having the programming for HoD work correctly as it shouldn't, so they don't get a whole bunch of trouble tickets.

Their goal is, yes, money, but that big goal is defined by smaller goals, which one of those smaller goals is making their service actually serve people. How often do you not spend money somewhere because the service wasn't well? If a company's service is poor, so will their revenue. If their service is excellent, so is their revenue. Actual product material accounts for a small portion compared to the service of said product.

[Bristolen]

well if devs come off as complete money grubbers nao, then most of their playerbase decides to move on to pastures that require less 'green'.

devs dont exactly have the squeakiest, cleanest PR when it comes to gaming ::shrugs::

[zserg]

nah i dont even care that much, its just that if i were the devs i would make this my first priority , they goal is to make money right?
well they dont give us an opportunity to pay them, wht's up with that?

omg you just proved the devs primary goal is not to make money. :eek:

WTF is wrong with them? :eek::eek:

[prking1988]

omg you just proved the devs primary goal is not to make money. :eek:

WTF is wrong with them? :eek::eek:

wierd, that's what im saying
i think alliens kidnapped and replaced the devs