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Alper
06-05-2010, 01:59 PM
Here is a little Item collection and where you can get them :) Keep in mind that an item is max used 3x, after that the next best 3x items are choosen.

WEAPON:
1x Zarevok´s Meat Cleaver 44/22 Arena Rank 5: Hero
3x Celestial Devotion 22/44 Emporium
3x Genesis Sword 20/30 Genesis
Alt: 1x Excalibur 25/12 Alchemy Epic Bosses
Alt: 1x Berserker Axe 17/15 Malekus 4500
Alt: 1x Blade of Vengeance 17/15 Azeron 3100
Alt: 3x Burning Blade 16/13 Bahamut
Alt: 3x Avenging Mace 16/13 Azriel

SHIELD:
1x Sword of Redemption 50/30 Azeron 4500
3x Purgatory 30/30 Azriel
3x Deathshield 24/24 Skaar
1x Juggernaut Shield 18/12 Malekus 5900

HELMET:
3x Helm of Dragon Power 30/30 Dragons Alchemy/Emporium
3x Volcanic Helm 32/14 Bahamut
1x Berserker Helm 12/10 Malekus 3100
Alt: 3x Kings Crown 11/11 Battle Rank 21: High King
Alt: 3x Celestial Helm 11/11 Azriel
Alt: 1x Tempest Helm 10/10 Ambrosia 5900

ARMOR:
3x Deathrune Hellplate 18/27 Skaar
3x Archangels Battlegear 26/14 Azriel
3x Hellforge Plate 25/12 Bahamut
Alt: 3x Zealot Robes 25/12 Azriel
Alt: 1x Swordsmans Plate 25/12 Arena Rank 2: Swordsman
Alt: 1x Lionheart Plate 10/25 Corvintheus 4500
Alt: 3x Holy Plate 18/20 Dark Legion Alchemy

AMULET:
3x Transcendence 46/36 Azriel
1x Moonfall Amulet 40/40 Aurora 4500
3x Soulless Pendant 25/25 Azriel
Alt: 3x Blood Flask 20/20 Azriel
Alt: 3x Thawing Star 18/17 Ragnarok
Alt: 1x Warriors Insignia 18/12 Arena Rank 3: Warrior
Alt: 1x Amulet of the Tempest 10/11 Ambrosia 3100
Alt: 1x Amulet Cefka 6/12 Quest: A Look into the Darkness (Land of Water)

GLOVE:
3x Death Touch Gauntlet 12/12 Lotus/Emporium
3x Nightcraft Gauntlet 9/14 Onslaught Chest
3x Hellforge Gauntlet 14/ 6 Bahamut
Alt: 3x Hands of Bounty 10/ 9 Genesis

MAGIC:
1x Gladiator Strength 25/12 Arena Rank 4: Gladiator
3x Frost Bolt 12/25 Ragnarok
3x Angelic Rebirth 17/17 Azriel
Alt: 3x Consecration 16/16 Azriel
Alt: 3x Skull Fire 16/16 Bahamut
Alt: 1x Tempest Storm 17/10 Ambrosia 4500
Alt: 3x Atlantean Force Field 10/17 Sea Serpent Alchemy

Foehammer
06-05-2010, 02:36 PM
Good list. Especially since the top five lists on the Wikidot website haven't been updated since Easter.

Caissa's DeathAngel
06-05-2010, 02:54 PM
Very good list, should be bumped quite often (not been here long enough to know if it's sticky-worthy) as a lot of people will want to see this!

Only thing you could perhaps add is the best generals in which slot? Might be good to have that in this thread as well.

solkyro
06-05-2010, 02:58 PM
3x transcendence is quite a feat for almost any player out there

Barnie
06-05-2010, 03:18 PM
Might wanna add Thawing Star and maybe Amulet of the Tempest as alternative amulets. That slot is probably the hardest to fill with the best items for casual players.

Azraelswrd
06-05-2010, 06:30 PM
Holy smokes, I really need to kill an Azriel... X_x

Psyched
06-05-2010, 06:37 PM
Thanks for the list.

Is consecration 14/14 oror 16/16?

Anyhow, I think I need to farm Bahamut and Azriel again for some good loots. :(

AzerothJr
06-05-2010, 06:40 PM
Holy smokes, I really need to kill an Azriel... X_x

Go go Azrael go kill more Azriel. You can come help me kill if you want.

niamh O'Toole
06-05-2010, 06:54 PM
Did 1 Azriel got 1 consecration lucky me :)

Bahamut drops serious gear too.



The list is great but nobody has much of all of that bar slayers, so it might be more informative if the list was longer, as it were :) so that we know whre our crummy blades stand in the list

ODragon
06-05-2010, 07:29 PM
Did 1 Azriel got 1 consecration lucky me :)
I got two blood vials from the only one I fought. Not the best but a step up from the thawing star I had plus with war, having two is even more useful for me!

niamh O'Toole
06-05-2010, 07:42 PM
I think as soon as i reach rank 4, I'll go back and do 1 or 2 of those awful A&B monsters.

And I was laughed at for wanting to do 1 because the gear wasn't quite best in slot! :D Who's laughing now.

Azraelswrd
06-05-2010, 07:44 PM
I'm actually a little upset at myself for not engaging Azriel sooner and I'm feeling the crunch now. I'm still above water but I could be doing better.

King Hrothbeort
06-05-2010, 08:05 PM
I filled it out a little for those who don't have the very best stuff. (Note: a few of the alternates I have listed are better than those first posted.)

WEAPON:
1x Zarevok´s Meat Cleaver 44/22 Arena Rank 5: Hero
3x Celestial Devotion 22/44 Emporium
3x Genesis Sword 20/30 Genesis
Alt: 1x Excalibur 25/12 Alchemy Epic Bosses
Alt: 1x Berserker Axe 17/15 Malekus 4500
Alt: 1x Blade of Vengeance 17/15 Azeron 3100
Alt: 3x Burning Blade 16/13 Bahamut
Alt: 3x Avenging Mace 16/13 Azriel

SHIELD:
1x Sword of Redemption 50/30 Azeron 4500
3x Purgatory 30/30 Azriel
3x Deathshield 24/24 Skaar
1x Juggernaut Shield 18/12 Malekus 5900

HELMET:
3x Helm of Dragon Power 30/30 Dragons Alchemy/Emporium
3x Volcanic Helm 32/14 Bahamut
1x Berserker Helm 12/10 Malekus 3100
Alt: 3x Kings Crown 11/11 Battle Rank 21: High King
Alt: 3x Celestial Helm 11/11 Azriel
Alt: 1x Tempest Helm 10/10 Ambrosia 5900

ARMOR:
3x Deathrune Hellplate 18/27 Skaar
3x Archangels Battlegear 26/14 Azriel
3x Hellforge Plate 25/12 Bahamut
Alt: 3x Zealot Robes 25/12 Azriel
Alt: 1x Swordsmans Plate 25/12 Arena Rank 3: Swordsman
Alt: 1x Lionheart Plate 10/25 Corvintheus 4500
Alt: 3x Holy Plate 18/20 Dark Legion Alchemy

AMULET:
3x Transcendence 46/36 Azriel
1x Moonfall Amulet 40/40 Aurora 4500
3x Soulless Pendant 25/25 Azriel
Alt: 3x Blood Flask 20/20 Azriel
Alt: 3x Thawing Star 18/17 Ragnarok
Alt: 1x Amulet of the Tempest 10/11 Ambrosia 3100
Alt: 1x Amulet of Cefka 6/12 Quest: A Look into the Darkness (Land of Water)

GLOVE:
3x Death Touch Gauntlet 12/12 Lotus/Emporium
3x Nightcraft Gauntlet 9/14 Onslaught Chest
3x Hellforge Gauntlet 14/ 6 Bahamut
Alt: 3x Hands of Bounty 10/ 9 Genesis

MAGIC:
1x Gladiator Strength 25/12 Arena Rank 4: Gladiator
3x Frost Bolt 12/25 Ragnarok
3x Angelic Rebirth 17/17 Azriel
Alt: 3x Consecration 16/16 Azriel
Alt: 3x Skull Fire 16/16 Bahamut
Alt: 1x Tempest Storm 17/10 Ambrosia 4500
Alt: 3x Atlantean Force Field 10/17 Sea Serpent Alchemy

niamh O'Toole
06-05-2010, 08:23 PM
Gah, long way to go for me still :o

My forte is I appear to be very well stacked in powerful magic. It's probably balancing out my icy handguards :rolleyes:

Cohen the Barbarian
06-05-2010, 09:31 PM
I filled it out a little for those who don't have the very best stuff. (Note: a few of the alternates I have listed are better than those first posted.)


AMULET:
3x Transcendence 46/36 Azriel
1x Moonfall Amulet 40/40 Aurora 4500
3x Soulless Pendant 25/25 Azriel
Alt: 3x Blood Flask 20/20 Azriel
Alt: 3x Thawing Star 18/17 Ragnarok
Alt: 1x Amulet of the Tempest 10/11 Ambrosia 3100
Alt: 1x Amulet Cefka 6/12 Quest: A Look into the Darkness (Land of Water)



Thanks for the list.
You can add Warriors Insignia 18/12 from the Arena to the Amulet section.

Alper
06-05-2010, 09:36 PM
First post edited, thx @ Hrothbeort & Cohen :)

I think the main problem is this:
To get the best items for WAR you have to obtain 15 legendary items from Azriel :D

3 Angelic Rebirth
3 Soulless Pendant
3 Transcendence = 3 Angelic Rebirth, 3 Soulless Pendant and 3 Alpha Bahamut Artifact

This will take very long i guess ;D

Draconus
06-05-2010, 10:31 PM
First post edited, thx @ Hrothbeort & Cohen :)

I think the main problem is this:
To get the best items for WAR you have to obtain 15 legendary items from Azriel :D

3 Angelic Rebirth
3 Soulless Pendant
3 Transcendence = 3 Angelic Rebirth, 3 Soulless Pendant and 3 Alpha Bahamut Artifact

This will take very long i guess ;D

Considering one of the items needed to create Transcendence is a Summoner Only Legendary drop from Azriel, I would have to say a very long time to create 3 or more might count as a serious understatement.

I've not yet messed with the War option beyond just looking. With my limited Stamina, 10X per hit wouldn't allow me enough hits to be worth the effort. Add in that I can most likely sit back and ignore it and enough others will try me and bounce off to provide me with enough War Points to qualify for most all of the offered rewards without using my own stamina. As for how or where to position what generals, I would presume that would be a matter of choosing your best, most powerful generals. I figure to leave it alone at the default setting until I can acquire more detailed information.

Azraelswrd
06-05-2010, 11:01 PM
The default settings order isn't very good though unless you don't mind your 3rd strongest general squatting on a 1pt position. :(

I've engaged in war about 5 times now. Stamina is hard to come by when you have 2 monsters. I'm sitting on 360 WP. I do lose but the chain losses are relatively small compared to how much I win in one encounter (3 per loss vs 10+ per win). As of this moment, I'm still seeing enough positive growth to leave war on cruise control while I work on monster achievements and Medius construction (though I will not make him now).

Airyn
06-06-2010, 01:38 AM
The Blazerune Necklace 9/8 (Bahamut) should be on the alt list, it ranks above the easily obtained Cefka, and for a slot that a lot of people are going to be hurting for, it is a relatively easier amulet to lay hands on.

Great list thanks!! And it definitely brings to light how important Bahamut and Azriel are.

Airyn
06-06-2010, 01:46 AM
I spoke too soon. Here's a longer list of alt amulets, in order of strength when attacking:

blazerune necklace 9/8 (bahamut)
Alt: 1x Amulet Cefka 6/12 Quest: A Look into the Darkness (Land of Water)
Blazerune ring 7/10 (bahamut)
Deathrune Signet 9/6 (Skaar)
Soul Catcher 8/7 (Skaar)
Paladin's Oath 7/8 (Dark Legion)

Azraelswrd
06-06-2010, 01:49 AM
Well, I'm well covererd on those Deathrune Signets. Kobo saw to that!!!

swordycrus
06-06-2010, 01:54 AM
how do you get 3 high king's crown?

Azraelswrd
06-06-2010, 01:54 AM
You buy them from town once you unlock them be achieving sufficient rank in battle via PVP.

Sengir
06-06-2010, 10:39 AM
I have a pretty good setup, almost every item is in the list on the 1st post and I haven't fought Azriel yet. :P

Items that I'm using which aren't on the list (and could be added, because they aren't that bad :D)

Shield:
Inferno Shield 15/10
Moonfall Shield 10/15

Helm:
Cowl of the Avenger 12/7

Amulet:
Blazerune Necklace 9/8

Hands:
Icy Handguards 5/5
(I know they are not that good, but still solid; 3 x DTG are almost impossible to obtain and btw aren't worth the farming, Nightcraft Gauntlet comes from a chest, and I haven't dropped a single Hellforge Gauntlet in 8+ bahamuts... they are easy to aquire and not that bad either)

Caitir Eavan
06-06-2010, 03:28 PM
please use the official war strategies topic for further discussion.
I'll edit the info from the first post into the first post of that topic, too.