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deadalus29
05-27-2010, 03:23 PM
hello.
it seems that i cant get those items: i killed Genesis / Regnarok more then 40 times (and even more then 50 times) with an epic item drop in each fight and yet non of the monsters drop those items...
is it weird?
what is the drop rate of those items (in average) from your experience?

do i need to do something special in order to get those items?

the average activity against the monster is around 800K

tnx for answering

tricker
05-27-2010, 03:26 PM
I had trouble getting them as well, I did more than 50 Ragnorok with ~5,000,000/3,000,000 dmg/dispel each before I received my first frost bolt. Drops are few and far between. Some players have better "luck" than others.

ko447
05-27-2010, 03:34 PM
I have 3 frost bolts and 2 Genesis swords.... 1 more Genesis swords to go. I will perserve. However, to have max damage, I am suppose to work on 1 more Genesis sword and 10 more frost bolts.... Sorry I do not have the patience.

By the way, my average damage is 2mil.

edlo78
05-27-2010, 04:24 PM
I did 24 genesis and 6 Regnarok and seems like defending increase the chance for me.

I found my sweet spot on Genesis is 1.1mil/0.4mil between level 200-209. I did about 10 Genesis in level 200-209, 5 with 1.8mil/0.2mil (the defense is enough to cover the damage I do to the blue bar) I got no swords. But out of 5 that I do 1.1mil/0.4mil I got three swords.

I haven't try for Frost Bolt since I was below level 200, and won't try again untill I get the Genesis and Horde achievement complete. But for the 6 I did, I got no frost bolt with high damage low defense (>2mil combine) but got 2 out of one fight that I do 0.6mil/0.6mil.

It is not definite and my sample size is too small. But since it work for me, I will stick to it.

Azraelswrd
05-27-2010, 04:52 PM
They're epic drops. They are supposed to be hard to get. Just do your damage and keep your fingers crossed. If you don't get any epics, do more next time. If you don't get what you want, try again.

800K? That's too low for a consistent epic drop from my experience. AIM HIGHER.

isaluteyou
05-27-2010, 05:03 PM
its weird but i have better luck on rag than gen. done 12 kills on each - usually hit for around 1.5 mill. I have 9 frostbolts and 1 genesis sword. So who knows:confused:

ko447
05-27-2010, 11:49 PM
However, to have max damage, I am suppose to work on 1 more Genesis sword and 10 more frost bolts.... Sorry I do not have the patience.

Just got my last Genesis Sword and finally managed to summon Medius. Hooray... I will probably fight other monsters for a change before coming back to Rag and Gen to get the 1 Genesis sword and 10 frost bolts for maz stats.:D

Marlfox
05-27-2010, 11:55 PM
hello.
it seems that i cant get those items: i killed Genesis / Regnarok more then 40 times (and even more then 50 times) with an epic item drop in each fight and yet non of the monsters drop those items...
is it weird?
what is the drop rate of those items (in average) from your experience?

do i need to do something special in order to get those items?

the average activity against the monster is around 800K

tnx for answering

For 800k, you quite frankly don't deserve an epic at all. 1M for counting towards the Genesis-achievement, and even higher for an epic, from both attack and defence.

Kage Cow
05-28-2010, 12:14 AM
I got my 2 genesis swords on my first two earth monsters. I also have two frost bolts already. I only deal roughly 1 million damage on every Ragnarok and Genesis I joined. I have'nt reached as many battles as you have but if i did, I would be frustrated.

Bigbowlr1037
05-28-2010, 12:42 AM
Ive done 5 genesis and have 4 Genesis swords(Top damage dealer each time with about 7 mil/3 mil). Im working on my 4th ragnarok and have yet to get frostbolt.

Orochitato
05-28-2010, 02:54 AM
i think every player has more luck on some items and low in others. i get a lot of genesis swords really easily and almost none habds of bounty and in ragnarok i killed more than 70 to get 3 frost bolt but got more than 15 of every other epic. for some players is easier the frost bolt and imposible the genesis. i recomend 500.000 on each always get an epic and have 5 at the same time, is less stamina wasted and more chances.

Ramtar
05-28-2010, 04:38 AM
I have done 4 Genesis (3 swords) and 7 Raguarok (2 frosh bolts). The last frost bolt was collected by doing 3,075,726 dam/52,003 def (5/65) in the level 90+ catagory.

To the OP, shoot for the 1 million mark dam + def on the monsters. As many have stated the higher the numbers the better chance for an epic.

TexasAggie97
05-28-2010, 12:56 PM
I received my first Genesis sword on my first Genesis battle. Being awarded #2 & #3 was a long effort. I have yet to replace my Genesis sword after 20+ battles after trading it in for Medius.

This sucks!

deadalus29
05-28-2010, 10:43 PM
the reason i'm aiming at ~700K damage is that i get an epic drop for that amount of dmg.

do you know if the sword/bolt needs more dmg to drop?
what is the lowest dmg u remmber that win you a sword or a bolt?

tnx for answering

333
05-28-2010, 10:48 PM
the reason i'm aiming at ~700K damage is that i get an epic drop for that amount of dmg.

do you know if the sword/bolt needs more dmg to drop?
what is the lowest dmg u remmber that win you a sword or a bolt?

tnx for answering

I think you need at least 1m dmg to get a shot at them :(

technophile82
05-28-2010, 11:35 PM
you could probably get a sword or bolt at less than 700k damage, but why risk it? aim higher...contribute more...and increase your chances.

i've been doing about 2.5mil to ragnarok and genesis lately, and get 1 or 2 epics to drop.

i got 2 genesis swords on my first genesis though, just after it was released :D

Orochitato
05-29-2010, 12:27 AM
the reason i'm aiming at ~700K damage is that i get an epic drop for that amount of dmg.

do you know if the sword/bolt needs more dmg to drop?
what is the lowest dmg u remmber that win you a sword or a bolt?

tnx for answering

500.000 can give genesis or frost boly or any other epic

Lord Dufduf
05-29-2010, 08:31 AM
People I wouldn't complain too much. Remember going for Demon Strength and fighting 30 Keiras, and still not getting it.

FLX
05-29-2010, 10:56 AM
i was lucky and dealt 370k to an ice elemental with my alt and received one frost bold..

so it IS RANDOM! no matter how much damage you deal.. there is alway a (puny) chance to get epics

FrOz3nSoLiD
05-29-2010, 07:02 PM
i've got 9 genesis swords from 25 genesis battles doing a little more the 1m dmg i've you're very lucky like me i received 2 genesis sword doing 1,2 m dmg so you can get 2 epics for 1m dmg frost bolts i've got 5 doing about 750k/1m dmg.

i've just made medius now i've got 6 GS and 2 FB left.:D

Slashmeehup
05-30-2010, 02:18 AM
Just out of curiosity, you people doing 3 million+, what are your level/stats like? I usually only do 1 mil, but only because I spread it around.

Kage Cow
05-30-2010, 02:25 AM
read sig
I can manage 1M per 8 hours for one ragnarok or genesis
at full stam I can do 2M per monster.

I can strike 3M on several before they die, but I am spreading my stam on several so I only deal 1M per beast :D

Azraelswrd
05-30-2010, 03:13 AM
Just out of curiosity, you people doing 3 million+, what are your level/stats like? I usually only do 1 mil, but only because I spread it around.

Over 300 lvl, 5.28 BSI. I try not to do over 10 million if I can help it.