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mydragoon
05-14-2010, 12:56 AM
I just saw a new monster -- alpha bahamut... requiring 2 eggs of each type...

any one summoned one yet?

I'm tied to another battle, so dun wanna spread myself too thin and summon one...

ljrg
05-14-2010, 01:02 AM
lol i just asked the very same question in the Bahamut, The Volcanic Dragon thread

mydragoon
05-14-2010, 01:05 AM
lol i just asked the very same question in the Bahamut, The Volcanic Dragon thread

i m sure many won't mind hopping on, if you summon one... i can join too... :)

ljrg
05-14-2010, 01:11 AM
i m sure many won't mind hopping on, if you summon one... i can join too... :) I would but I'm only in my 80s not 150s

boboqiao
05-14-2010, 01:13 AM
stronger version of bahamut....bigger too! :3

mydragoon
05-14-2010, 01:20 AM
stronger version of bahamut....bigger too! :3

hmmm... ya, i figured as much. alphas in animal packs are the strongest one...

and i won't be surprised since i noticed it was easier to kill bahamut than genesis...

anyway, speaking of bahamut... the one i killed many hours back... it somehow came back to life! ya... we collected our rewards, etc.... i was just checking that EPIC WORLD MONSTER slot and it was still alive! *sigh* got like 5% life left on that.... i m tempted to finish it off the 2nd time and see if i can get more loots from it. :)

ljrg
05-14-2010, 01:22 AM
should be fun i'll be in as soon as my stam says i can declare attack

mydragoon
05-14-2010, 01:31 AM
Some updates on Alpha Bahamut...

Seems like Dev listened to us...

More slots for L150 and above...
L150+: 60 slots
L100-L149: 30 slots
L50-L99: my guess is 30 slots
L1-L49: 30 slots

Draconus
05-14-2010, 01:45 AM
I want more information on the Legendary Loot offered.

Abdiel
05-14-2010, 01:53 AM
Man this bahamut Hp is extremely high frist to weapons alone are 60 millions and barely is a 8% of total hp Im scared of this one :eek:

Draconus
05-14-2010, 02:09 AM
I got in, Siege Weapons so far total 100 million damage done, 150+ seats are already full, and it's hardly dented lol. This should prove interesting but thankfully I need only about 100 XP to level up.

Xanofar
05-14-2010, 02:46 AM
Alpha also means first.

"First" can have meanings two ways:

A leader of a pack.
A first version, like a version that can be outdated. (like our Alpha Chests, or an alpha version of a video game)


I actually assumed that he'd be a weaker version for newbies, since Bahamut isn't a beast we just find plenty of lying around everywhere, so I didn't think it'd make sense that there could be a stronger member of a pack of one-of-a-kind legendary evil dragons. :P

peninvade
05-14-2010, 03:15 AM
In addition to rare and epic drops, there are Legendary drops. I guess the legendary thing is a new thing they started with the goblin emporium and are expanding with this monster with the drops.

Possible Legendary drops:
Alpha Emerald Serpent
Alpha Sapphire Serpent
Alpha Amethyst Serpent
Alpha Red Serpent
Alpha Bahamut Artifact ( a feather?)

Epic and rares are similar to the regular bahamut.
This one is definitely tougher. About 175mil damage, and at about 70% (estimate numbers) working on launching 5th siege weapon.

ikar
05-14-2010, 05:25 AM
Catapults -28,000,000 dmg

Ballistas -32,500,000 dmg


Fire Catapults -40,000,000 dmg


Silverlight Angels -45,000,000 dmg


Phoenixes -47,500,000 dmg

Blizzard - ?? (estimate for 50-60 000 000 dmg)

and propably at least Last Stand should be somewhere at the end ;)

BTW - did You notice that devs unlocked lvl 2 of skill? I have warrior lvl 2 :)

Moev
05-14-2010, 05:59 AM
Hi all, pretty new to this game, joined about a week ago or so. I like killing the bahamut monsters since there is by far better gear as rewards. Been leveling up pretty fast and furiously. Saw a CTA from a friend for this new Bahamut, I usually am in the top 3 of damage on all the ones I've killed to date, so I figured why not.

Has anyone beaten this yet? I am currently sitting at 5th in total damage overall by players. I am just wondering if it is actually worth all the excess extra damage I will need to inflict in order to get a big share of the legendary loot drops??

I figure I will help kill it anyway for fun. Currently we have about 1/3rd of it dead.

Xanofar
05-14-2010, 07:04 AM
Hi all, pretty new to this game, joined about a week ago or so. I like killing the bahamut monsters since there is by far better gear as rewards. Been leveling up pretty fast and furiously. Saw a CTA from a friend for this new Bahamut, I usually am in the top 3 of damage on all the ones I've killed to date, so I figured why not.

Has anyone beaten this yet? I am currently sitting at 5th in total damage overall by players. I am just wondering if it is actually worth all the excess extra damage I will need to inflict in order to get a big share of the legendary loot drops??

I figure I will help kill it anyway for fun. Currently we have about 1/3rd of it dead.

It is normally discouraged to post links in these threads. The others shouldn't have been doing it, but since it's a BRAND new monster, it's arguable whether or not there is foul in them doing so. Whatever the case, it is not the norm here.

Moev
05-14-2010, 07:12 AM
Sorry new to this fourm wasn't aware of that but thanks for the info. I just saw that other had posted links so I figured that I would as well. Anyone have any info on this new items from the drops?

dragon9484
05-14-2010, 07:32 AM
Here is some useful info

New Monster released: Alpha Bahamut, The Volcanic Dragon.

* It is similar to a regular Bahamut, but is (presumably) stronger, and has a new drop class. It has the same Rare and Epic drops that regular bahamuts have, but they also have Legendary drops.
* Legendary drops are:
o Alpha Sea Serpents. These are units.
+ Alpha Emerald Sea Serpent 65/65
+ Alpha Sapphire Sea Serpent 70/70
+ Alpha Amethyst Sea Serpent 75/75
+ Alpha Ancient Sea Serpent 80/80
o Alpha Bahamut Artifact. It is... ?
* To summon an Alpha Bahamut, it requires 2 of each Volcanic Egg. (Regular Bahamuts only require 1 of each Volcanic Egg)
* Alpha Bahamuts also use the class system. Any class levels or experience that you earned on a regular Bahamut counts for Alpha Bahamuts as well.
* Alpha Bahamuts have different level limits than regular Bahamuts
o 30 people level 1-49 people may join the battle
o 30 people level 50-99
o 30 people level 100-149
o 60 people level 150+
* On your monster page, this monster's name is, "Alpha Bahamut, The Volcanic Dragon", when fighting this monster, the monster's name is, "Volcanic King, Alpha Bahamut"
* Alpha Bahamut is noticably stronger than regular Bahamut. On average you will deal less damage to the Alpha Bahamut, and your healing/strengthening/dispelling/crippling will be less effective.

mydragoon
05-14-2010, 08:36 AM
* Legendary drops are:
o Alpha Sea Serpents. These are units.
+ Alpha Emerald Sea Serpent 65/65
+ Alpha Sapphire Sea Serpent 70/70
+ Alpha Amethyst Sea Serpent 75/75
+ Alpha Ancient Sea Serpent 80/80

wow... i totally have no motivation to do/ fight cronus now...

anyway, i do hope dev starts to look into dividing CA players by level.

low level players obtaining such armies may turn off other low level players.
high level players obtaining such armies may have better reasons to bully low level players...

back to topic...
anyone know how much is damage/ health this alpha bahamut has?

mmSOLO
05-14-2010, 08:45 AM
i'm interested what's the lowest damage for getting the legendary...

Moev
05-14-2010, 04:06 PM
Well we have completed all the siege tasks, these are the numbers, Catapults = 28,000,000 damage. Ballistas = 32,500,000 damage, fire catapults = 40,000,000 damage, Silverlight angles = 45,000,000 Phoenixes = 47,500,000 damage, and finally Blizzard = 52,500,000 damage. That is a total damage output of 245,500,000 damage just from siege weapons. If you take the top 10 attackers damage that is another 51,000,000.

We are only at about 60% of the total damage taken off right now, so I would guess that there is about another 200,000,000 damage left to inflict. So that would make it's health upwards of 500,000,000.

Hope this helps.

Xanofar
05-14-2010, 05:56 PM
Well, I guess Alpha Bahamut is the Super-Epic-Monster everybody was hoping for.


I just hope they take a break from these epics for a while now, because it'd be nice to fight something easier that is new. :P

schizoid
05-15-2010, 04:37 AM
I think It has more than 550m HP as far as my calculations are correct.

Lasombra
05-15-2010, 05:25 AM
In terms of the 'alpha' it could just be the standard RPG style naming. "Oh you killed me the first time, but now here is me in my new form...mwhahaha"

mydragoon
05-17-2010, 02:26 PM
but with bahamut, it will be quite hard to tell its health since activities could also be healing, strengthening, crippling and deflecting... deflection and crippling, we can still guess and minus it off... but strenghtening and healing... hard to account for, right?

Predator.9710
05-18-2010, 04:58 AM
Just finished one, loot as follows

You have been rewarded 1 demi points of Corvintheus!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 1 demi points of Ambrosia!
You have been awarded with: Earth Shard! [attack: 3 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Earth Shard! [attack: 3 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Gladiator! [attack: 35 defense: 24]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Sky Sanctuary!
You have been awarded with: Marketplace!
You have been awarded with: Mountain Keep!
You have been awarded with: Skullfire! [attack: 16 defense: 16]
You have been awarded with: Skullfire! [attack: 16 defense: 16]
You have been awarded with: Hellforge Guantlets! [attack: 14 defense: 6]
You have been awarded with: Alpha Amethyst Serpent! [attack: 75 defense: 75]
You have been awarded with: Volcanic Emerald!

derkaiser
05-18-2010, 05:56 AM
I'm waiting for the beta one =w=

mydragoon
05-18-2010, 06:14 AM
Just finished one, loot as follows

You have been rewarded 1 demi points of Corvintheus!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 1 demi points of Ambrosia!
if u dun mind sharing... how much activities did you do? and what rank were you on the attackers list? and how much did the top attacker (if it was not you) did?

thanks... just curious...

mydragoon
05-18-2010, 06:19 AM
From the wordings on the Alpha Bahamut bar (the one that says "Alpha Bahamut, the Volcanic Dragon's Life"):

We were somewhere at V when the final weapon Blizzard (doing 52.5mil damage) was launched. Alpha Bahamut's health dropped to M.

It also means we have another 52mil damage to go before we end our current Alpha Bahamut.

Going by this logic/ calculation... At V, Alpha Bamahut's health is approximately 1/3 of its full bar... so, that would mean full Alpha Bahamut health stands at about 300mil - 350mil.

dejwilson
05-18-2010, 06:19 AM
I think the idea that they were going for with "Alpha" is like the leader or the strongest. Like the alpha wolf or the alpha male. Alpha Bahamut is supposed to be the strongest one

kira
05-18-2010, 01:17 PM
Damage: 22,710,711 - Only 150+ activity bar full.
Rewards: 1 Legendary, 3 Epic, 4 Rare and 1 Crystal.
Got Alpha Sapphire Serpent! [att 70 def 70] - Same as my Phalanx got, but that took me 2 months hard work hunting serpents. It took only 2 days to kill the Alpha :)

TheLord
05-18-2010, 02:00 PM
8.6mil damage...

4 demi points
2 Rusty Armors
1 Feral Staff
1 Rusty Glove
2 Blazerune Rings
2 Arcanists
2 Volcanic Helms
1 Hellforge Plate
This monster demands at least 10mil I guess... :o

Predator.9710
05-18-2010, 02:16 PM
Just finished one, loot as follows

You have been rewarded 1 demi points of Corvintheus!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 1 demi points of Ambrosia!
You have been awarded with: Earth Shard! [attack: 3 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Earth Shard! [attack: 3 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Gladiator! [attack: 35 defense: 24]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Sky Sanctuary!
You have been awarded with: Marketplace!
You have been awarded with: Mountain Keep!
You have been awarded with: Skullfire! [attack: 16 defense: 16]
You have been awarded with: Skullfire! [attack: 16 defense: 16]
You have been awarded with: Hellforge Guantlets! [attack: 14 defense: 6]
You have been awarded with: Alpha Amethyst Serpent! [attack: 75 defense: 75]
You have been awarded with: Volcanic Emerald!


Levels 150+ [60 max] Activity
Eric 15,097,772
Andrew 13,214,721
漢平 12,524,348
Jesse 12,417,428
The Predator 11,582,847

I was a healer dude person, we finished him off with the life bar almost full.

Lemme know if you want more info

technophile82
05-18-2010, 03:54 PM
I got 1 Alpha Emerald (65/65) with 5.89 mil activity. I was a cleric so much of that was healing.

DarkMichal
05-18-2010, 08:18 PM
Fighting alpha is just waste of timer and stamina for lower levels. I deal 3x more dmg to alpha then normally for standard bahamut and get 0 epics, 1 rare while normal bahamut gives me always 1 epice and 2-3 rare,about 30% for crystal for 3 x less dmg... :mad:

BukkaKing
05-19-2010, 08:41 AM
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Ambrosia!
You have been awarded 1 Favor Points!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been awarded with: Feral Staff! [attack: 2 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Earth Shard! [attack: 3 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Feral Staff! [attack: 2 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Blazerune Ring! [attack: 7 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Lavareign Axe! [attack: 12 defense: 17]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Mountain Keep!
You have been awarded with: Castle!
You have been awarded with: Hellforge Plate! [attack: 25 defense: 12]
You have been awarded with: Skullfire! [attack: 16 defense: 16]
You have been awarded with: Hellforge Guantlets! [attack: 14 defense: 6]
You have been awarded with: Volcanic Ruby!
You have been awarded with: Volcanic Topaz!


10,987,616 Damage Done

Kinda lackluster in my opinion.

Torres
05-19-2010, 06:31 PM
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Ambrosia!
You have been awarded 1 Favor Points!
You have been rewarded 2 demi points of Aurora!
You have been awarded with: Feral Staff! [attack: 2 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Earth Shard! [attack: 3 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Rusty Gloves! [attack: 1 defense: 1]
You have been awarded with: Feral Staff! [attack: 2 defense: 2]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Blazerune Ring! [attack: 7 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Lavareign Axe! [attack: 12 defense: 17]
You have been awarded with: Inferno Shield! [attack: 15 defense: 10]
You have been awarded with: Mountain Keep!
You have been awarded with: Castle!
You have been awarded with: Hellforge Plate! [attack: 25 defense: 12]
You have been awarded with: Skullfire! [attack: 16 defense: 16]
You have been awarded with: Hellforge Guantlets! [attack: 14 defense: 6]
You have been awarded with: Volcanic Ruby!
You have been awarded with: Volcanic Topaz!


10,987,616 Damage Done

Kinda lackluster in my opinion.

Same 10 million damage for me.
But minus your favor point and two crystals.
What's the point???

Marlfox
05-19-2010, 07:21 PM
'm starting to get annoyed with the weak drop rates of the monsters ... no frost bolts, no genesis swords, no crystals, no alpha serpents, no map pieces, no hydra heads ... a break seems to be in order.

mydragoon
05-20-2010, 03:25 AM
got a fren who was a healer... and got the emerald... hmmm...

but i don't think dev actually code it to differentiate between attack/ defense since they have lumped everything into just one stats -- activities.

and if i am not mistaken, defense/ fortify gives less number of activities compared to attacks. so logically, those heavy on attacks should score higher activities.

at this rate, i can only say the drops are really, really random. :rolleyes::D

mydragoon
05-20-2010, 03:30 AM
got a fren who was a healer... and got the emerald... hmmm...
went back to look at the list...

the healer was ranked 20 in the L150 category. did 5,729,547 activities.

top 5 did:
20,049,490
18,170,028
11,360,272
9,294,831 <-- another fren
8,972,036

another fren in the top 5... got no crystals and no legendary loots. i think that fren was a jack-of-all-trades (not particularly high on any stats).

evilchris
05-28-2010, 09:04 AM
From the wordings on the Alpha Bahamut bar (the one that says "Alpha Bahamut, the Volcanic Dragon's Life"):

We were somewhere at V when the final weapon Blizzard (doing 52.5mil damage) was launched. Alpha Bahamut's health dropped to M.

It also means we have another 52mil damage to go before we end our current Alpha Bahamut.

Going by this logic/ calculation... At V, Alpha Bamahut's health is approximately 1/3 of its full bar... so, that would mean full Alpha Bahamut health stands at about 300mil - 350mil.

on my laptop, that is 0.75 inches if you are generous in the m to v, and the total bar is 7.25 inches. Thus 52.5 million corresponds to about 9.5% of his life, so I think a better approximation is 550 mil. Orlando had 650 mil of activity when he soloed his alpha - assuming he had a 10 to 1 damage to healing ratio (which is probably accurate, with 1500 attack power a 5 stam power attack does nearly 40k and returns average about 2500 damage, but he had to strengthen the bar from the starting 35%), that example comes up at 575ish mil. Someone has already probably figured out the exact amount, but since no correction was made in this thread, I figured I'd chime in.